The "Czar" Debate settled once and for all.

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    This thread is to settle the Czar debate once and for all.

    The first President to really have Czars was FDR. He had 12 Czar Jobs and 18 appointees. Over the years, every single President has had at least one. Nixon had the most since Harry Truman with 2 Czar Jobs and 4 appointees.

    Bill Clinton had 6 Czar Jobs and 9 appointees.

    Barack Obama has currently Thirty Two (32) Czar Jobs and 34 appointees.

    But what about Dubya?

    He had THIRTY FIVE CZAR JOBS (35) and FORTY FIVE (45) appointees. My question is the following:

    Where was the outrage when Bush was in office? Where was Glenn Beck? He wasn't crying on television about how the Republicans were trying to conquer this country with Socialism or Facism or whatever.

    The List of Czars under President George W. Bush and their years:

    An Abstinence Czar (2006-2007)

    THREE different AIDS Czars (2001-2002), (2002-2003), and (2006-2007).

    Bank Bailout Czar (2008-2009)

    Bioethics Czar (2001-2005)

    Bird flu Czar (2004-2006)

    Birth Control Czar (2006-2007)

    THREE different Budget Czars (2001-2003), (2003-2006), and (2006-2007).

    TWO Clean Up Czasr (2001-2004) (2005-2008)

    Communications Czar

    TWO Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czars (2001-2003), and (2008-2009)

    Democracy Czar (2005-2008)

    Domestic Policy Czar (2004-2006)

    Drug Czar (2001-2009)

    FOUR Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czars (2001) (2001) (2002-2006) (2006-2008)

    Food Safety Czar (2007-2008)

    TWO Global AIDS Czars (2003-2006) (2006-2009)

    Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (2006-2008)

    Health IT Czar (2004-2006)

    Homeland Security Czar (2005-2009)

    Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (2002-2008)

    Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (2005-2008)

    TWO Intelligence Czars (2005-2007) (2005-2009)

    TWO Manufacturing Czars (2004-2007) (2007-2008)

    Policy Czar (2005-2006)

    TWO Public Diplomacy Czars (2005-2007) (2008-2009)

    Reading czar (2001-2005)

    TWO Regulatory Czars (2001-2006) (2006-2009)

    Science Czar (2001-2009)

    Terrorism Czar (2001)

    Terrorism Czar, Counterterrorism Czar (2001-2002)

    War Czar (2007)

    Okay Republicans, where's your outrage. Waiting for it. Waiting for it. Still waiting. :eusa_whistle:
     
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    "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right." - Thomas Paine

    Just because other Presidents have had Czars doesn't mean it's right or constitutional.
     
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    Did I say it was right or constitutional? If you think I did, you missed the entire point of my thread. Where was the Republican outrage during the last eight years? Nonexistent, that's what.
     
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    There should be no czars at all, by any president. They are not confirmed, they answer to no one but the president, there are no checks and balances. It's too easy for too few to have too much power.

    If Obama were 'the president of change' he claims to be, why doesn't he change this and vet/confirm these people?
     
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    Oh, I see, because Bush did it now it's OK.
     
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    Another person who missed my entire point of the thread. Where is the outrage that Bush did it? All I see is people being at most apathetic to the fact he had Czars. Yet all I hear is bitching about Obama's czars.

    The fact that Bush had more Czars seemed not even known to the majority of people on this board as I've never heard any bitching about his Czars. That, or they didn't care.
     
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    So because Republicans had Czars Obama should be allowed to have Czars?
     
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    Why didn't you include the names of President Bush's czars????
     
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    a link to where to got this from would be helpful
     
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    i doubt he can actually prove they existed, some of them anyway
     

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