The Cuban Missile Crisis: Kennedy’s “Victory”?

[LA RAM FAN]

The cuban missile crisis was indeed Kennedys victory. For the fools who think Nixon was such a great president,had he been president back then he would have gotten us into a nuclear war with Russia, Thank god we had the failed bay of pigs invasion because after that,kennedy learned from his mistake to stop listening to what the military told him. The CIA and pentagon lied to him about what their plans were for the invasion knowing full well it would not succeed Kennedy was set up for failure by them. That was why after the invasion he made the statement he would splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the four winds.Major mistake.the CIA caught wind of that statement and made sure that did not happen.

Thank God kennedy was our president back then and not Dick Nixon because like him or hate him,he got us out of the cuban missile crisis and that is BECAUSE he did not listen to his military advisors who wanted him to bomb Cuba. He knew not to trust their advise THIS time. Instead of listening to them,he did the smart thing and listened to his aides instead and took THEIR advise on the crisis at hand.That payed dividends. Had Dick Nixon been president,HE would have done what the military establishment wanted Kennedy to do but would not do,INVADE. As immature as Nixon was back then,you could count on him doing that. By 1972 he might not have since he was more mature but in 1962? forget it. He even said in later years that had he been president back then he would have gone in and bombed them. and he was not kidding either.

some trolls will post a funny no doubt since they cant counter these facts,never fails. LOL

Hmm..., had Nixon won the election, there would never have been a failure at the Bay of Pigs and it would have been the end of the Castro Brothers, no missile crisis, and no huge cocaine smuggling into America. BTW JFK folded and gave Khrushchev what he wanted. The removal of ICBM's from Italy and Turkey. BTW Khrushchev never gave up in fact built up a large submarine base in Cuba. Those submarines carry ICBM's too.

Did Kennedy Cause the Crisis?
Did Kennedy Cause the Crisis? - The Atlantic
Conventional wisdom has tended to rank the Cuban missile crisis as the Kennedy presidency's highest drama and grandest success. Drama, yes. But this provocative recounting of the administration's policy toward Castro's Cuba suggests that Kennedy brought the crisis on himself.

wrong charlie.the bay of pigs invasion plan they presented Eisenhower that Kennedy inherited from him was vastly different from the one they presented to Eisenhower.JFK inherited the bay of pigs invasion from IKE AND you blantantly ignored facts that had Nixon been president he would have bombed russia doing what the military told him as he HIMSELF said he would have done,he would have started world war three cause HE would have done what the militarty told him,.yep you posted a smiley cause you could counter that fact. oh and the CIA is an evil organization that smuggles in drugs all the time so miserable fail on your part there as well

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Question: Why would Eisenhower the man who planned the greatest invasion this planet has ever seen, the 'Normandy D-Day Invasion' create such a shoddy invasion of Cuba? It appears that the plans for the Cuban invasion were screwed up after the fact when Kennedy became president. As it was, there were destroyers and at least one carrier group 50 miles off shore. Who called off the air cover and close air support?

LA RAM FAN has a low tolerance for bullshit and revisionist history. I chalk it up to the fact that he has become jaded after the wasted time he has spent trying to awake the indoctrinated masses....with that being said? LRF is absolutely "dead on". USA.INC and their CIA attack dogs had no problem with Castro until he kicked out the multi-national corporations that had been raping, pillaging and exploiting Cuba and the resources that they coveted. The Dulles brothers thought that they could pull another coup like they did in Guatemala in 1953 when the United Fruit company was denied cheap labor and cheap prices on fruit. Guatemala was the first country that the CIA was complicit in regime change.....Iran soon followed when the Shah was installed after Iran refused to allow big oil in to rip them off. The CIA and the military industrial complex came up with the idea for Operation Northwoods where they would use a false flag event to blame Cuba for and then justify an invasion. Castro really had no other choice but find an ally that had the muscle to keep USA.INC off of their door-step.

The irony in all of this was that Wall Street and the western banking oligarchs funded the Bolshevik revolution and built the USSR into a formidable foe using our sweat equity to move their fiat currency thus giving it "value". JFK had a balancing act to perform. He had to confront the missile sites in Cuba (courtesy of the USSR) while not letting on that the controllers of USA.INC were behind this "Cold War" charade. The CIA and the Operation Mockingbird media tried to claim that JFK was going "soft" on communism and represented a security risk and many of the sheeple ate it up. JFK, in spite of his faults and shortcomings, did the right thing and was working on exposing the deep underbelly of the corruption and power funded by the central bankers that has used our military as a hammer and every third world country was seen as a nail that lacked the ability to fend them off. JFK was the last president that actually took on the establishment....is Trump and the white hats picking up the torch? Only time will tell but I am only going to give Trump another few months to prove that he has.

you nailed it,with your help of course.I am handing the OP his ass on a platter same as i did in my previous posts.


JFK vs. the Military - The Atlantic
President Kennedy faced a foe more relentless than Khrushchev, just across the Potomac: the bellicose Joint Chiefs of Staff argued for the deployment of nuclear weapons and kept pressing to invade Cuba. A presidential historian reveals that Kennedy's success in fending them off may have been his most consequential victory.

By persuading the Soviet leader to remove missiles from Fidel Castro’s Cuba and agree to a ban on nuclear tests in the atmosphere, underwater, and in outer space, Kennedy avoided a nuclear war and kept radioactive fallout from the air and the oceans, thereby earning the country’s enduring regard for his effectiveness as a crisis manager and negotiator. But less recognized is how much both of these agreements rested on Kennedy’s ability to rein in and sidestep his own military chiefs.

this is ALL the OP has contributed in his revison of history.-


as i took the OP to school on earlier had DICK Nixon been president,he would have bowed down to the military brass as he ALWAYS did and gave them their wishes and invaded Cuba starting a nuclear war with Russia.

 

[whitehall]

Russia had nuclear subs within striking distance of the U.S. at the time and the U.S. was well aware of it. The "Missile Crisis" was created by the incompetent CIA to save face after JFK's incredible blunder of the Bay of Pigs regardless of the potential for a tragic mistake.

 

[Funzo Hoss]

George Joannides and his DRE
David Morales and his schemes
Ted Shackley
E Howard Hunt
William Harvey
Frank Fiorini

 

[PoliticalChic]

Russia had nuclear subs within striking distance of the U.S. at the time and the U.S. was well aware of it. The "Missile Crisis" was created by the incompetent CIA to save face after JFK's incredible blunder of the Bay of Pigs regardless of the potential for a tragic mistake.

JFK was a cause of greatest blunder......



Before Kennedy agreed to meet with Khrushchev, at the Vienna summit was a summit meeting held on June 4, 1961, his own advisers had warned him not to do so.....they recognized him as a 'lightweight' as far as foreign policy experience.



"Senior American statesmen like George Kennan advised Kennedy not to rush into a high-level meeting, arguing that Khrushchev had engaged in anti-American propaganda and that the issues at hand could as well be addressed by lower-level diplomats. Kennedy’s own secretary of state, Dean Rusk, had argued much the same in a Foreign Affairs article the previous year..

....Kennedy went ahead, and for two days he was pummeled by the Soviet leader. Despite his eloquence, Kennedy was no match as a sparring partner, and offered only token resistance as Khrushchev lectured him ...

Kennedy’s aides convinced the press at the time that behind closed doors the president was performing well, but American diplomats in attendance, including the ambassador to the Soviet Union, later said they were shocked that Kennedy had taken so much abuse. ... the meeting was “just a disaster.”



Khrushchev’s aide, after the first day, said the American president seemed “very inexperienced, even immature.” Khrushchev agreed, noting that the youthful Kennedy was “too intelligent and too weak.” [Can you say 'Obama'?]




Kennedy’s assessment of his own performance was no less severe. Only a few minutes after parting with Khrushchev, Kennedy, a World War II veteran, told James Reston of The New York Times that the summit meeting had been the “roughest thing in my life.” Kennedy went on:
“He just beat the hell out of me. I’ve got a terrible problem if he thinks I’m inexperienced and have no guts. "Opinion | Kennedy Talked, Khrushchev Triumphed




Now you know why Khrushchev decided to put missiles in Cuba.
Kennedy himself was the cause of the Soviet move that almost started WWIII.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

JFK was a cause of greatest blunder......



Before Kennedy agreed to meet with Khrushchev, at the Vienna summit was a summit meeting held on June 4, 1961, his own advisers had warned him not to do so.....they recognized him as a 'lightweight' as far as foreign policy experience.



"Senior American statesmen like George Kennan advised Kennedy not to rush into a high-level meeting, arguing that Khrushchev had engaged in anti-American propaganda and that the issues at hand could as well be addressed by lower-level diplomats. Kennedy’s own secretary of state, Dean Rusk, had argued much the same in a Foreign Affairs article the previous year..

....Kennedy went ahead, and for two days he was pummeled by the Soviet leader. Despite his eloquence, Kennedy was no match as a sparring partner, and offered only token resistance as Khrushchev lectured him ...

Kennedy’s aides convinced the press at the time that behind closed doors the president was performing well, but American diplomats in attendance, including the ambassador to the Soviet Union, later said they were shocked that Kennedy had taken so much abuse. ... the meeting was “just a disaster.”



Khrushchev’s aide, after the first day, said the American president seemed “very inexperienced, even immature.” Khrushchev agreed, noting that the youthful Kennedy was “too intelligent and too weak.” [Can you say 'Obama'?]




Kennedy’s assessment of his own performance was no less severe. Only a few minutes after parting with Khrushchev, Kennedy, a World War II veteran, told James Reston of The New York Times that the summit meeting had been the “roughest thing in my life.” Kennedy went on:
“He just beat the hell out of me. I’ve got a terrible problem if he thinks I’m inexperienced and have no guts. "Opinion | Kennedy Talked, Khrushchev Triumphed




Now you know why Khrushchev decided to put missiles in Cuba.
Kennedy himself was the cause of the Soviet move that almost started WWIII.

go away trollgirl PoliticalChic ,you have no credibility ignoring that your hero reagan was a mass murderer and obama expanded the corruption of your hero bush so you have ZERO credibility about jfk.

tell her what a dumbass troll she is gipper on JFK and reagan

 

[LA RAM FAN]

go away trollgirl PoliticalChic ,you have no credibility ignoring that your hero reagan was a mass murderer and obama expanded the corruption of your hero bush so you have ZERO credibility about jfk.

tell her what a dumbass troll she is gipper on JFK and reagan

Funny how the truth on Reagan hurts docs feelings same as it does trollgirl pc isn’t it gipper? You post links and videos of evidence and instead of sticking around to try and counter it,they know they are backed up against the wall and always give a thumbs down before doing this everytime.they can’t stand toe to toe in a debate and have never learned that running off cause the truth hurts,does nit win a debate,thst you got to present evidence to refute your opponent,something they NEVER do.

There is a thread right now in the history section with all kinds of evidence they won’t touch sense they know they can’t refute it.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We should have bombed the missile sites. Russia would have blinked

-Geaux

Part of the Deal Was to Depose Khruschev, Too, for Underestimating the Spoiled-Brat Tantrums of JFK

Russia only blinked when they got a deal with the combined CIA and KGB to eliminate the Kennedy loose-cannon warmongers.

 

[Doc7505]

LA RAM FAN has a low tolerance for bullshit and revisionist history. I chalk it up to the fact that he has become jaded after the wasted time he has spent trying to awake the indoctrinated masses....with that being said? LRF is absolutely "dead on". USA.INC and their CIA attack dogs had no problem with Castro until he kicked out the multi-national corporations that had been raping, pillaging and exploiting Cuba and the resources that they coveted. The Dulles brothers thought that they could pull another coup like they did in Guatemala in 1953 when the United Fruit company was denied cheap labor and cheap prices on fruit. Guatemala was the first country that the CIA was complicit in regime change.....Iran soon followed when the Shah was installed after Iran refused to allow big oil in to rip them off. The CIA and the military industrial complex came up with the idea for Operation Northwoods where they would use a false flag event to blame Cuba for and then justify an invasion. Castro really had no other choice but find an ally that had the muscle to keep USA.INC off of their door-step.

The irony in all of this was that Wall Street and the western banking oligarchs funded the Bolshevik revolution and built the USSR into a formidable foe using our sweat equity to move their fiat currency thus giving it "value". JFK had a balancing act to perform. He had to confront the missile sites in Cuba (courtesy of the USSR) while not letting on that the controllers of USA.INC were behind this "Cold War" charade. The CIA and the Operation Mockingbird media tried to claim that JFK was going "soft" on communism and represented a security risk and many of the sheeple ate it up. JFK, in spite of his faults and shortcomings, did the right thing and was working on exposing the deep underbelly of the corruption and power funded by the central bankers that has used our military as a hammer and every third world country was seen as a nail that lacked the ability to fend them off. JFK was the last president that actually took on the establishment....is Trump and the white hats picking up the torch? Only time will tell but I am only going to give Trump another few months to prove that he has.

Indeed, Truman's dismantling of the OSS and creation of the CIA in 1946 was at the root of this chicanery and seems to have been ever after..

 

[konradv]

The Cuban Missile Crisis: Kennedy’s “Victory”?​

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/208...mberto-fontova
That Khrushchev swept the floor with Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis was mainstream conservative conclusion throughout much of the Cold War. Richard Nixon and Barry Goldwater, for instance, represented opposite poles of the Republican establishment of their time.... Even Democratic luminary Dean Acheson despaired: "This nation lacks leadership," he grumbled about the famous “Ex-Comm meetings” so glorified in the movie Thirteen Days.... "We locked Castro's communism into Latin America and threw away the key to its removal," growled Barry Goldwater about the JFK’s Missile Crisis “solution.”... "Kennedy pulled defeat out of the jaws of victory,” complained Richard Nixon. "Then gave the Soviets squatters rights in our backyard.".. Generals Curtis Le May and Maxwell Taylor represented opposite poles of the military establishment.... JFK's Missile Crisis “solution” also pledged that he immediately pull the rug out from under Cuba's in-house freedom fighters. Raul Castro himself admitted that at the time of the Missile Crisis his troops and their Soviet advisors were up against 179 different "bands of bandits" as he labeled the thousands of Cuban anti-Communist rebels then battling savagely and virtually alone in Cuba's countryside, with small arms shipments from their compatriots in south Florida as their only lifeline...Kennedy's deal with Khrushchev cut this lifeline. This ferocious guerrilla war, waged 90 miles from America's shores, might have taken place on the planet Pluto for all you'll read about it in the mainstream media and all you'll learn about it from Kennedy’s court scribes, who scribbled Kennedy’s Missile-Crisis “victory.” To get an idea of the odds faced by those betrayed Cuban rebels, the desperation of their battle and the damage they wrought, you might revisit Tony Montana during the last 15 minutes of "Scarface."

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On the Fifty Seventh (57th) anniversary of the "Bay of Pigs" debacle, imagine Obama's term with no Fox News, internet, social media or talk radio. Imagine press conferences where the reverence and adulation for Sarah Huckabee Sanders surpasses anything Hillary Clinton gets as a guest on The View. That’s about what JFK and his press secretary Pierre Salinger enjoyed. Tragically, the "Camelot Fairy tales" of Kennedy’s court scribes (with their adoring media cohorts of the time) concocted about JFK’s Pattonesque handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis (56 years ago this week) prevail in media/academic circles even today.
Who remembers "Alpha 66" and who of the Progressive Left wants to recognize that JFK's legacy began with the "Bay of Pigs" debacle and his surrender to Nakita Khrushchev during the following "Cuban Crisis".
While studying US foreign policy in college this was hailed as a great victory for the US. As I've read more on the subject the article is spot on. It was a complete loss for us. We have complete nuclear and conventional superiority over the Russians and Cubans. JFK withdrew some missiles from Turkey and Italy in exchange for the Russians pulling theirs from Cuba....with a promise not to invade Cuba. In a complete reversal of the Monroe Doctrine we allowed a foreign power a base of operations in our backyard. Part of the mess of the 60s in Latin and South American can be attributed to that.
So much for the gallant Knights of Camelot forcing the Russians’ retreat. In fact, the Castro brothers and Che Guevara’s genocidal lust is what prompted the Butcher of Budapest to yank the missiles from their reach.
Considering the U.S. nuclear superiority over the Soviets at the time of the (so-called) Missile Crisis (five thousand nuclear warheads for us, three hundred for them) it's hard to imagine a President Nixon — much less Reagan — quaking in front of Khrushchev's transparent ruse a la Kennedy.
The global propaganda machine has been alive and well for a very, very long time. It is infuriating.
Cuba and Cubans could be free today but for JFK and his brothers RFK and Teddy did not want the US to seem to be invading a small, poor nation. The Bay of Pigs disaster was a pretty big failure of nerve and ego. The U.S. had a whole fleet sitting offshore watching the freedom fighters get butchered and did nothing to help them. Castro knew every detail of that landing. I think someone at State (Progressive Marxist Socialist) leaked the info and our guys were slaughtered

Republicans having been saying that JFK would be one of them now. Reading about the failed Cuba campaign and the claims of victory, regardless, I see the similarities.

 

[Doc7505]

Republicans having been saying that JFK would be one of them now. Reading about the failed Cuba campaign and the claims of victory, regardless, I see the similarities.

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No what we've claimed is that JFK would be rejected as a Democrat today's Maoist/DSA Democrat Party. JFK would today be considered a chimera in today's Democrat politics.

 

[Billo_Really]

The Cuban Missile Crisis: Kennedy’s “Victory”?​

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/208...mberto-fontova
That Khrushchev swept the floor with Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis was mainstream conservative conclusion throughout much of the Cold War. Richard Nixon and Barry Goldwater, for instance, represented opposite poles of the Republican establishment of their time.... Even Democratic luminary Dean Acheson despaired: "This nation lacks leadership," he grumbled about the famous “Ex-Comm meetings” so glorified in the movie Thirteen Days.... "We locked Castro's communism into Latin America and threw away the key to its removal," growled Barry Goldwater about the JFK’s Missile Crisis “solution.”... "Kennedy pulled defeat out of the jaws of victory,” complained Richard Nixon. "Then gave the Soviets squatters rights in our backyard.".. Generals Curtis Le May and Maxwell Taylor represented opposite poles of the military establishment.... JFK's Missile Crisis “solution” also pledged that he immediately pull the rug out from under Cuba's in-house freedom fighters. Raul Castro himself admitted that at the time of the Missile Crisis his troops and their Soviet advisors were up against 179 different "bands of bandits" as he labeled the thousands of Cuban anti-Communist rebels then battling savagely and virtually alone in Cuba's countryside, with small arms shipments from their compatriots in south Florida as their only lifeline...Kennedy's deal with Khrushchev cut this lifeline. This ferocious guerrilla war, waged 90 miles from America's shores, might have taken place on the planet Pluto for all you'll read about it in the mainstream media and all you'll learn about it from Kennedy’s court scribes, who scribbled Kennedy’s Missile-Crisis “victory.” To get an idea of the odds faced by those betrayed Cuban rebels, the desperation of their battle and the damage they wrought, you might revisit Tony Montana during the last 15 minutes of "Scarface."

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On the Fifty Seventh (57th) anniversary of the "Bay of Pigs" debacle, imagine Obama's term with no Fox News, internet, social media or talk radio. Imagine press conferences where the reverence and adulation for Sarah Huckabee Sanders surpasses anything Hillary Clinton gets as a guest on The View. That’s about what JFK and his press secretary Pierre Salinger enjoyed. Tragically, the "Camelot Fairy tales" of Kennedy’s court scribes (with their adoring media cohorts of the time) concocted about JFK’s Pattonesque handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis (56 years ago this week) prevail in media/academic circles even today.
Who remembers "Alpha 66" and who of the Progressive Left wants to recognize that JFK's legacy began with the "Bay of Pigs" debacle and his surrender to Nakita Khrushchev during the following "Cuban Crisis".
While studying US foreign policy in college this was hailed as a great victory for the US. As I've read more on the subject the article is spot on. It was a complete loss for us. We have complete nuclear and conventional superiority over the Russians and Cubans. JFK withdrew some missiles from Turkey and Italy in exchange for the Russians pulling theirs from Cuba....with a promise not to invade Cuba. In a complete reversal of the Monroe Doctrine we allowed a foreign power a base of operations in our backyard. Part of the mess of the 60s in Latin and South American can be attributed to that.
So much for the gallant Knights of Camelot forcing the Russians’ retreat. In fact, the Castro brothers and Che Guevara’s genocidal lust is what prompted the Butcher of Budapest to yank the missiles from their reach.
Considering the U.S. nuclear superiority over the Soviets at the time of the (so-called) Missile Crisis (five thousand nuclear warheads for us, three hundred for them) it's hard to imagine a President Nixon — much less Reagan — quaking in front of Khrushchev's transparent ruse a la Kennedy.
The global propaganda machine has been alive and well for a very, very long time. It is infuriating.
Cuba and Cubans could be free today but for JFK and his brothers RFK and Teddy did not want the US to seem to be invading a small, poor nation. The Bay of Pigs disaster was a pretty big failure of nerve and ego. The U.S. had a whole fleet sitting offshore watching the freedom fighters get butchered and did nothing to help them. Castro knew every detail of that landing. I think someone at State (Progressive Marxist Socialist) leaked the info and our guys were slaughtered

At least JFK was great with the babes!

 

[Flash]

We know that JFK was a Slick Willy level scumbag.

He was also a chickenshit President.

Once we found out that the Soviets had nuclear warhead missiles in Cuba that was all the moral authority we needed to remove the Communists from an island 90 miles away.

However, JFK didn't do it. He allowed Castro and the Communists to stay in Cuba. This told the Soviets that we were weak. That weakness is what encouraged them to to arm the Communist rebels in Central America and elsewhere in the world. Probably prolonged the Cold War for two decades with untold lives lost.

JFK was a shitty human being and a shitter President. Hollywood and the media loved him but he was a terrible President. The only thing he ever got right was being in favor of tax cuts.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Indeed, Truman's dismantling of the OSS and creation of the CIA in 1946 was at the root of this chicanery and seems to have been ever after..

The Birchers Were Right for the Wrong Reason

Because he was under orders to create a double threat as an excuse to massively fund the Military-Industrial Complex, Truman refused to let MacArthur neutralize the Red Chinese army.

 

[konradv]

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No what we've claimed is that JFK would be rejected as a Democrat today's Maoist/DSA Democrat Party. JFK would today be considered a chimera in today's Democrat politics.

Rejecting people is a Republican thing: McCain, Cheney, Reagan, etc., etc., etc.

 

[Mushroom]

The Cuban Missile Crisis: Kennedy’s “Victory”?​

This is not history. It is partisan political commentary hidden as history.

 

[Doc7505]

This is not history. It is partisan political commentary hidden as history.

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You keep being fed horse manure and kept in the dark.

Cuban missile crisis | History, Facts, & Significance

Cuban missile crisis, major confrontation at the height of the Cold War that brought the United States and the Soviet Union to the brink of a shooting war in October 1962 over the presence of Soviet nuclear-armed missiles in Cuba. The crisis was a defining moment in the presidency of John F...

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Cuban Missile Crisis

At the height of the Cold War, for two weeks in October 1962, the world teetered on the edge of thermonuclear war. Earlier that fall, the Soviet Union, under orders from Premier Nikita Khrushchev, began to secretly deploy a nuclear strike force in Cuba, just 90 miles from the United States...

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Cuban Missile Crisis

During the Cuban Missile Crisis, leaders of the U.S. and the Soviet Union engaged in a tense, 13-day political and military standoff in October 1962 over the

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Soviet Views on the Cuban Missile Crisis: Myth and Reality in Foreign Policy Analysis | Hispanic American Historical Review | Duke University Press

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[Mushroom]

You keep being fed horse manure and kept in the dark.

OK, so in addition to being into partisan politics, I guess you are into conspiracy theories.

You know, there are areas in here for that kind of stuff. Neither one is "history".

 

[Doc7505]

The deaths of the Cuban freedom fighters lies at the doorstep of JFK. Castro captured over 1,000 wo later died in the Isles of Pines prison.
That cannot be changed.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Hmm..., had Nixon won the election, there would never have been a failure at the Bay of Pigs and it would have been the end of the Castro Brothers, no missile crisis, and no huge cocaine smuggling into America. BTW JFK folded and gave Khrushchev what he wanted. The removal of ICBM's from Italy and Turkey. BTW Khrushchev never gave up in fact built up a large submarine base in Cuba. Those submarines carry ICBM's too.

Did Kennedy Cause the Crisis?
Did Kennedy Cause the Crisis? - The Atlantic
Conventional wisdom has tended to rank the Cuban missile crisis as the Kennedy presidency's highest drama and grandest success. Drama, yes. But this provocative recounting of the administration's policy toward Castro's Cuba suggests that Kennedy brought the crisis on himself.

The deaths of the Cuban freedom fighters lies at the doorstep of JFK. Castro captured over 1,000 wo later died in the Isles of Pines prison.
That cannot be changed.

As always you prove what a dumbass you are on your knowledge of jfk same as fellow dumbass pc.no the deaths lie at the hands of the cia sense they lied to kennedy on everything about the invasion with the plan they presented to him vastly differerent than the one they presented to Eisenhower designed to succeed under him where it was designed to fail under kennedy. Kennedy worked with wahsts his name from Russia in back channel discussions their military’s did not know about which diverted the Cuban missile crisis,our government provoked Russia by having missiles aimed at turkey w before kennedy even took office so stop proving what a dumbass you are to day there would have been no nuclear war had Nixon been in office. Thank god for the bay of pigs cause kennedy learned after that to not trust the military anymore so he ignored their recommendations to bomb cuba as they wanted him to by wisely listening to his aides instead of them,as always you suck on your facts about jfk same as you do on Reagan,


Not only would the Cuban missile crisis have happened with Nixon,he would have started ww 3 because again he would have bombed Cuba as the military wanted him to dumbass,god you so much suck at debating facts on kennedy and Reagan.same as pc


The plan the CIA presented to Eisenhower on the bay of pigs invasion that kennedy inherited from him was vastly differerent than the one they presented to kennedy,it was designed to succeed where the one they presented to kennedy was designed to fail.the cia assured him no military involvement would be needed fir the invasion,they lied to him about everything dumbass.the CIA they thought their boy Nixon was going to get elected,so when he was vp under Eisenhower,they presented a plan to Ike Nixon was aware of that was designed to succeed.Nixon was loved by the cia because he ran covert operations for the cia as Vice President thst Eisenhower was not even aware of.Nixon kissed the ass of the cia so they were not happy when he did not get elected dumbass,right gipper tell these two dumbass clowns pc and doc that.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Indeed, Truman's dismantling of the OSS and creation of the CIA in 1946 was at the root of this chicanery and seems to have been ever after..

For once you know what your talking about you and fellow dumbass pc next are going to tell me you also same as Whitehall and Langley shill mushroom,also believe in the magic bullet theory of the Warren commission thst oswald killed kennedy and was the lone assassin and that Reagan did not block Jim garrisons extradition request to subpeona Allen Dulles in the clay Shaw trial.