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The Big Coal Bailout of 2016

Peabody Coal's long-awaited concession that bankruptcy lies ahead signals the curtain fall on the long-running, silent and secret bailout of the management of the U.S. coal industry. As one analyst put it when Peabody announced that it faced a "going concern" letter, "It's the end of the era of publicly traded coal companies."

Peabody is about to join Arch, Murray, Alpha and other coal producers in bankruptcy. The total market value of the U.S. coal sector since 2011 has plunged from more than $70 billion to barely $6 billion and most of the remaining value is natural gas operations owned by Consol Inc. Coal stocks have dropped far faster than coal consumption, because the industry, ignoring competition from renewable energy and dismissing pressure to clean up the air, recklessly invested in far greater mining capacity than the market needs. Coal prices dropped by 75 percent.

But even as King Coal inescapably rushes towards bankruptcy, the companies are being showered by regulators and judges with extraordinary largesse. This is not a bailout like GM and Chrysler, (or even the banks), when the taxpayers took very large risks but gained a good shot at rescuing operating enterprises and the value they create. This bailout largesse to coal, largely driven by Republican politicians, is showering down on shareholders and management of enterprises which cannot and will not be rescued, just to postpone the moment at which they are reorganized, thus fattening management and shareholders before the evil moment.

And who pays? The general taxpayer for sure, but more spectacularly sick and retired mine workers and their communities.

Now in spite of this, Trump has promised to bail out coal. For people that claim to admire market forces, the GOP is certainly going against them. And you and I will pay for it.
 
Trump will imitate Obama who imitated Bush with mass bailouts.

America is a fascist country.
 
It won't help.

Nobody wants coal. Economically, natural gas is much cheaper. Why burn a more expensive dirty fuel?

That is, Trump can't keep his promise.


What a jackass.................everybody wants coal, especially India and China, dummy!!:slap:

In the next 30 years, both countries are upping coal production by............ready for this.........50%!! Germany is opening 17 new coal plants by 2020.........duh.

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All you gay guys habitually post up emotionally driven fantasy gobblygook = ghey.




s0n......gotta stop getting geo-political advice from the stoopid-ass cat.:bye1:
 
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The Big Coal Bailout of 2016

Peabody Coal's long-awaited concession that bankruptcy lies ahead signals the curtain fall on the long-running, silent and secret bailout of the management of the U.S. coal industry. As one analyst put it when Peabody announced that it faced a "going concern" letter, "It's the end of the era of publicly traded coal companies."

Peabody is about to join Arch, Murray, Alpha and other coal producers in bankruptcy. The total market value of the U.S. coal sector since 2011 has plunged from more than $70 billion to barely $6 billion and most of the remaining value is natural gas operations owned by Consol Inc. Coal stocks have dropped far faster than coal consumption, because the industry, ignoring competition from renewable energy and dismissing pressure to clean up the air, recklessly invested in far greater mining capacity than the market needs. Coal prices dropped by 75 percent.

But even as King Coal inescapably rushes towards bankruptcy, the companies are being showered by regulators and judges with extraordinary largesse. This is not a bailout like GM and Chrysler, (or even the banks), when the taxpayers took very large risks but gained a good shot at rescuing operating enterprises and the value they create. This bailout largesse to coal, largely driven by Republican politicians, is showering down on shareholders and management of enterprises which cannot and will not be rescued, just to postpone the moment at which they are reorganized, thus fattening management and shareholders before the evil moment.

And who pays? The general taxpayer for sure, but more spectacularly sick and retired mine workers and their communities.

Now in spite of this, Trump has promised to bail out coal. For people that claim to admire market forces, the GOP is certainly going against them. And you and I will pay for it.


Lets see liberals have had a war on cheap ass coal for over 40 years and now we have had enough and now your ilk is upset?

GM was never going anywhere..just like American Airlines was fine after it went backrupt quit trying to bullshit.


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Trump should redeploy the money wasted in global warming "research" into coal
 
Coal Decline Steepens in 2016 in India, China, U.S.
Indian Coal Imports Drop 15% in April 2016, Again; China’s Jan-April 2016 Coal Production Down 6.8%
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The global coal industry continues to reel under the inevitable triple pressures of excessive financial leverage, tightening global climate policy consensus and a technology driven transformation that is increasingly transferring pricing power from global fossil fuel conglomerates to energy consumers. The result is accelerating energy sector deflation across oil, liquid natural gas and coal.

Expectations that 2015 marked the low point in the thermal coal cycle are already looking severely misplaced, following Indian reports showing coal imports in April 2016 declined 15% year on year (yoy). The calendar year to-April 2016 saw a record 18.7% yoy decline in imports to 64.3 million tonnes (Mt).

The rate of Indian coal import decline is increasing every month. Following five years of 20-30% annual growth, this marks an historic turning point in energy market transformation.

Indian Coal Secretary Anil Swarup reports that in April 2016 India imported 15.9Mt of coal, a 15% decline from the 18.7Mt in the same month a year ago. This follows the 15% yoy decline in India’s 2015/16 financial year ended March 2016.

In value terms, Indian coal imports declined 32% yoy from Rs 8,942 Cr (US$1,355m) to Rs 6,023 Cr (US$913m) in April 2016. This is a significant saving that is reducing India’s current account deficit and stabilizing the currency.

Coal Decline Steepens in 2016 in India, China, U.S. - Institute for Energy Economics & Financial Analysis

Coal is declining the world over. Just too damned dirty.
 
The Big Coal Bailout of 2016

Peabody Coal's long-awaited concession that bankruptcy lies ahead signals the curtain fall on the long-running, silent and secret bailout of the management of the U.S. coal industry. As one analyst put it when Peabody announced that it faced a "going concern" letter, "It's the end of the era of publicly traded coal companies."

Peabody is about to join Arch, Murray, Alpha and other coal producers in bankruptcy. The total market value of the U.S. coal sector since 2011 has plunged from more than $70 billion to barely $6 billion and most of the remaining value is natural gas operations owned by Consol Inc. Coal stocks have dropped far faster than coal consumption, because the industry, ignoring competition from renewable energy and dismissing pressure to clean up the air, recklessly invested in far greater mining capacity than the market needs. Coal prices dropped by 75 percent.

But even as King Coal inescapably rushes towards bankruptcy, the companies are being showered by regulators and judges with extraordinary largesse. This is not a bailout like GM and Chrysler, (or even the banks), when the taxpayers took very large risks but gained a good shot at rescuing operating enterprises and the value they create. This bailout largesse to coal, largely driven by Republican politicians, is showering down on shareholders and management of enterprises which cannot and will not be rescued, just to postpone the moment at which they are reorganized, thus fattening management and shareholders before the evil moment.

And who pays? The general taxpayer for sure, but more spectacularly sick and retired mine workers and their communities.

Now in spite of this, Trump has promised to bail out coal. For people that claim to admire market forces, the GOP is certainly going against them. And you and I will pay for it.


Lets see liberals have had a war on cheap ass coal for over 40 years and now we have had enough and now your ilk is upset?

GM was never going anywhere..just like American Airlines was fine after it went backrupt quit trying to bullshit.


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You have had enough of cheaper natural gas? That is what is killing coal right now. But wind and solar are close behind, and will finish off coal as a generating fuel as the grid scaled storage comes on market.
 
Look.......coal is going to be :laugh2:king:laugh2: for another 50 years at least. Every single energy projection makes it clear, even the most recent one in 2015 from the Obama Energy Information Agency. The reason is very, very simple. Cost. India and China will continue to crank out heavy manufacturing for decades because they can.............via use of coal.

Ive posted up the graphs a billion times.......too bored to bother.:bye1:
 
Coal Decline Steepens in 2016 in India, China, U.S. - Institute for Energy Economics & Financial Analysis

World Coal Consumption To Surpass Oil By 2020 Due To Rising Demand In China And India

10/13/2013 11:59 pm ET | Updated Jan 23, 2014

That was written in 2013, my article was written this year;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/14/world-coal-consumption-oil_n_4095221.html

Tim Buckley May 16, 2016Read More →
Coal Decline Steepens in 2016 in India, China, U.S.

Seems to me that you need to get up to date. China is putting in more wind and solar now than anyone else.

China pushes up global renewable energy capacity

China was the world’s leading market across a number of renewable energy technologies in 2015 and helped to drive global renewable installed capacity to an estimated 913.48 Gigawatts (GW), says research and consulting firm GlobalData.


The company’s latest report states that China led the world for annual capacity additions in solar, biopower, small hydropower and onshore wind in 2015, although the National Development and Reform Commission confirmed reductions in the cut to China’s onshore wind feed-in tariffs, for projects approved after January 1, 2015 or commissioned after January 1, 2016.

 
Coal Decline Steepens in 2016 in India, China, U.S. - Institute for Energy Economics & Financial Analysis

World Coal Consumption To Surpass Oil By 2020 Due To Rising Demand In China And India

10/13/2013 11:59 pm ET | Updated Jan 23, 2014

That was written in 2013, my article was written this year;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/14/world-coal-consumption-oil_n_4095221.html

Tim Buckley May 16, 2016Read More →
Coal Decline Steepens in 2016 in India, China, U.S.

Seems to me that you need to get up to date. China is putting in more wind and solar now than anyone else.

China pushes up global renewable energy capacity

China was the world’s leading market across a number of renewable energy technologies in 2015 and helped to drive global renewable installed capacity to an estimated 913.48 Gigawatts (GW), says research and consulting firm GlobalData.

The company’s latest report states that China led the world for annual capacity additions in solar, biopower, small hydropower and onshore wind in 2015, although the National Development and Reform Commission confirmed reductions in the cut to China’s onshore wind feed-in tariffs, for projects approved after January 1, 2015 or commissioned after January 1, 2016.


As usual though, "decline" is not defined......its a technique particularly used by alarmists to paint a picture that does not at all conform with the reality. One will notice how many posts by alarmist use terms like "increased"........"fallen".........."elevated".........."decrease"........."additions"......
....."led".............."more"...........


Always vague ( ghey ) terms used by these people. ALWAYS.


But when you go take a closer look, you burst out laughing!!:bye1:


And things have changed that much since 2013??:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:



U.S. Energy Information Administration Projections
Along with domestic projections, the EIA also publishes scenarios for international energy use in its annual International Energy Outlook. Figure 2.6 summarizes the most recent EIA projections of world coal use in 2010, 2020, and 2025, for three groups of countries—mature market economies (including most Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development [OECD] countries), emerging economies (such as China and India), and transitional economies (including the former Soviet Union, non-OECD Europe, and Eurasia). Again, these scenarios reflect variations in different growth rate parameters, but do not include policy scenarios such as future GHG constraints. In the absence of such policy constraints, world coal use is projected to grow dramatically in the emerging economies, primarily China and India. Much smaller tonnage growth is projected in the rest of the world, although relative growth rates are projected to be high in several other countries. By 2025, worldwide coal use increases by approximately 60 percent over 2002 levels in the reference case and by nearly 80 percent in the high economic growth scenario.

In the IEA Baseline Scenario, world coal use in 2050 is nearly three times greater than in 2003, and its share of world energy demand grows from 24 percent in 2003 to 34 percent in 2050






Highly comprehensive research on the future of coal >>

https://www.nap.edu/read/11977/chapter/4#38


Read this and you will then understand what is meant by "decline". As usual, when alarmists pop out statistics, if your radar doesn't come out full bore........well..........you're a sucker!!:spinner:
 
Yes, things have absolutely changed since 2007. Then Peabody Coal was a going concern. Today it is in bankruptcy. Wind was a distant dream, and utility scale solar a pipe dream. Today both are major producers of power, becoming more so every year at a compound pace that would make a Rockefeller envious.
 
Again, 2007.

China's Coal Future

Now for the present

COAL
29 February 2016 12:38
Analysis: Decline in China’s coal consumption accelerates

China’s coal use declined 3.7% in 2015, according to official statistics released by the Chinese government today.

This is the second year running that the consumption of China’s most polluting fuel has declined. What’s more, the reduction took place while the economy grew.

The data will raise hopes that coal use in the country has finally peaked.

The statistics reveal that the decline in coal is accelerating. In 2014, China’s coal usedeclined by 2.9%. The year before that, it increased by 3.7%, illustrating the country’s marked energy turnaround.

Meanwhile, renewables continued to grow, with solar capacity increasing by 74% in 2015, and wind by 34%.

Analysis: Decline in China's coal consumption accelerates | Carbon Brief

 
Yes, things have absolutely changed since 2007. Then Peabody Coal was a going concern. Today it is in bankruptcy. Wind was a distant dream, and utility scale solar a pipe dream. Today both are major producers of power, becoming more so every year at a compound pace that would make a Rockefeller envious.


Hmmm...........well perhaps you're right. What does the Obama EIA know anyway?

Its all good........China and India should be smog free by 2025!!:rock::rock:

Think I'll stick with the MIT research though!!:2up:
 

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