the claim by the left that Trump basically surrendered to the Taliban is a lie !

[progressive hunter]

 

[Meathead]

Its a shame you have no education.

I didn't go to a Talib school and could not quote the Qumran if that's what you mean.

 

[Slade3200]

Gotcha. You were for it before you were against it. That's what I thought.

Of course. Isn’t everybody that way until they are aware of the threats and repercussions of actions?

 

[Meathead]

Of course. Isn’t everybody that way until they are aware of the threats and repercussions of actions?

No

 

[JoeMoma]

Biden had the authority to reverse any agreement Trump may have made with the Taliban.

 

[Slade3200]

No

Yeah right!

 

[Calypso Jones]

This would include both Trump and Biden

nice try but that wasn't President Trump's plan.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

the left claims that Trump surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban when he struck an agreement with said group to withdraw US troops is false ! let me repeat false ! the agreement Trump maid and the manner in which he conducted the draw down is vastly different than what we are seeing today ! and heres proof ! Afghan conflict: US conducts first air strike on Taliban since deal

Of course, everything the left says is a lie . Why start telling the truth now.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Richard Grennell lets us in on the deal.

CITIZEN FREE PRESS

The Greatest News Site On The Internet. Home of CFP Nation.

citizenfreepress.com

Release afghan funds to the TOLLYBON and they'll extend the deadline.

All those awesome toys he left them and they want more. That cuts into Joe's walking away from this gig with his pockets full.

We could go in there and level the place. What does it matter to Joe...he's been overseeing the deaths of the abandoned in afghanistan. Doesn't mean a fig to him if it's women and children too.

 

[asaratis]

Biden had the authority to reverse any agreement Trump may have made with the Taliban.

He didn't have to reverse it. Trump had already abandoned the deal after the Taliban claimed they instigated the attack in Sept 2019 that killed a US soldier and 11 other people. That's when he cancelled the invitation to meet with them at Camp David.

Joe Biden announced a new plan of his own to withdraw all US forces by May 31st. Joe had his eyes on a September 11th photo op claiming he successfully got us completely out of Afghanistan.

He's systematically leaving behind hundreds of American citizens and thousands of Afghani allies...and killing a few more American soldiers while he evacuates unvetted Afghans to the US as new Democrat voters.

To hell with Joe Biden.

 

[JoeB131]

He didn't have to reverse it. Trump had already abandoned the deal after the Taliban claimed they instigated the attack in Sept 2019 that killed a US soldier and 11 other people. That's when he cancelled the invitation to meet with them at Camp David.

He then proceeded to sign the Doha Accord in February 2020 that gave the Taliban everything they wanted, including the release of 5000 Taliban prisoners and an American withdrawal by May 2021.

Trump owns this shitty deal. "Art of the Deal" indeed.

Joe Biden announced a new plan of his own to withdraw all US forces by May 31st. Joe had his eyes on a September 11th photo op claiming he successfully got us completely out of Afghanistan.

Actually, he extended the deadline because all the American War Profiteers weren't getting the hell out when they were told to.

He's systematically leaving behind hundreds of American citizens and thousands of Afghani allies...and killing a few more American soldiers while he evacuates unvetted Afghans to the US as new Democrat voters.

Wow, make up your fucking mind, will you?

Do you want to bring these Afghans into the country or not?

Personally, I don't care one way or the other, but it was Trump and Stephen Miller who imposed Muslim bans and cocked up the Asylum process to the point that no one was getting a hearing on whether they deserved asylum.

 

[edthecynic]

Joe Biden announced a new plan of his own to withdraw all US forces by May 31st.

LIAR!
That was Surrender Monkey Tramp!

 

[asaratis]

Wow, make up your fucking mind, will you?

I have.

Do you want to bring these Afghans into the country or not?

Only the properly vetted ones.

He then proceeded to sign the Doha Accord in February 2020 that gave the Taliban everything they wanted, including the release of 5000 Taliban prisoners and an American withdrawal by May 2021.

The agreement was conditional. Biden was no obligated to honor it.

U.S. officials made clear at the time that the agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw.

One day before the Doha deal, a top aide to chief U.S. negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad said the agreement was not irreversible, and “there is no obligation for the United States to withdraw troops if the Afghan parties are unable to reach agreement or if the Taliban show bad faith” during negotiations.

Was Biden handcuffed by Trump's Taliban deal in Doha?

President Joe Biden and his national security team say the Trump administration tied their hands when it came to the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

apnews.com

You liberal numbnuts are squirming to find legitimate reasons to defend Biden's total failure and blame it on Trump.

 

[JoeB131]

The agreement was conditional. Biden was no obligated to honor it.

You liberal numbnuts are squirming to find legitimate reasons to defend Biden's total failure and blame it on Trump.

The was no good reason for Biden to honor it.

The Taliban never stopped fighting the Afghan government and never negotiated in good faith because they knew they really didn't have to. Trump ratcheted down from 13,600 to 2500, despite the attacks and the assassinations continuing.

The proximate cause of failure here was that the Afghan Government, despite all the money we had pumped into it, was notoriously incompetent and corrupt, and everyone knew it was going to fall. The fact the Taliban was able to sweep across the country in 11 days is proof of that.

 

[asaratis]

The was no good reason for Biden to honor it.

The Taliban never stopped fighting the Afghan government and never negotiated in good faith because they knew they really didn't have to. Trump ratcheted down from 13,600 to 2500, despite the attacks and the assassinations continuing.

The proximate cause of failure here was that the Afghan Government, despite all the money we had pumped into it, was notoriously incompetent and corrupt, and everyone knew it was going to fall. The fact the Taliban was able to sweep across the country in 11 days is proof of that.

There was no good reason for Biden to abandon Bagram and $83Billion in military assets and weapons.

There was no good reason for Biden to completely withdraw on August 31.

Biden is a goddamned fool.

 

[JoeB131]

There was no good reason for Biden to abandon Bagram and $83Billion in military assets and weapons.

There was no good reason for Biden to completely withdraw on August 31.

Biden is a goddamned fool.

Actually, there was a great reason.

We had absolutely no good fucking reason to be in that country.

That's why we had to withdraw.

That Bush threw Billions of dollars at these people we aren't going to get back, isn't Biden's fault. You don't throw good money after bad.

We didn't want to be there and they didn't want us there... not seeing a problem.

 

[Crepitus]

the claim by the left that Trump basically surrendered to the Taliban is a lie !​

No, it's not. I Posted the whole 4 pages of the surrender in several other threads.

 

[asaratis]

No, it's not. I Posted the whole 4 pages of the surrender in several other threads.

Trumps agreement was CONDITIONAL. Biden ignored the conditions and made a deal of his own. Biden is totally responsible for abandoning Bagram and over $80 Billion of equipment and weapons.

You may have posted the agreement in several other threads but you never understood it.

You're posting lies about it....as is expected of you.

 

[Crepitus]

Trumps agreement was CONDITIONAL. Biden ignored the conditions and made a deal of his own. Biden is totally responsible for abandoning Bagram and over $80 Billion of equipment and weapons.

You may have posted the agreement in several other threads but you never understood it.

You're posting lies about it....as is expected of you.

Then why wasn't he insisting they live up to these mythical conditions before he left office? Remember, tRump drew the troop presence down to 2,500 before he was removed.

 

[JoeB131]

Trumps agreement was CONDITIONAL. Biden ignored the conditions and made a deal of his own. Biden is totally responsible for abandoning Bagram and over $80 Billion of equipment and weapons.

You may have posted the agreement in several other threads but you never understood it.

You're posting lies about it....as is expected of you.

Except Trump did nothing of the sort. He drew troops down to 2500 without requiring ANYTHING from the Taliban, who continued to gain territory and build up his strength.

Trump's folly was to think the Afghan Kleptocracy was going to hold the door while we ran away. They didn't.