The civil war that wasn't

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  1. alan1
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    I posted this stuff on another message board a few years back. I have neither the time nor inclination to contact the people that responded and ask for permission to quote them here, so I will only post my comments on the discussion.


    Will the next war for independence be brought about by another president from Illinois?
     
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    Hmm, 27 views and no comments.
    I'm not sure if that means people are afraid to address the issue or if they just think I am crazy.
     
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    I'm not sure how I missed this thread. At any rate, I agree with your views on the war for southern independence. I don't, however, think Obama is going to spark any real secessionist movements around the U.S.
     
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    I agree with you,

    I watched the movie Gods and Generals with my son who is 11
    and when Lee is giving his speech about Virgina not allowing
    Federalist soldiers onto their land.
    And how Stonewall Jackson was such a religious man who pondered
    every move through his faith.
    My son looked at me and asked me 'I thought the war was nothing more
    then slaves, is this movie true or is my history book"

    I told him that slaves were a issue but nowhere near as important as what
    the History books note.
    and I also told him that slaves were owned in the North as well
    and that the Civil War was more about power of Washington D.C.
    controlling everything and the states of the South tried to secede
    from the Union
     
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    While my initial post was pointing a finger in that direction, it would take more than just Mr Obama to cause it. It would also take the congress, but Mr Obama just might be the catalyst.
     
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    I think the idea of secession is so universally reviled thanks to Civil War propaganda that it just simply won't gain any serious foothold here.
     
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    Another side effect of Mr Lincolns war and the revisionist history that we have been taught.
     
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    In the south it is refered to as "the War of Northern Aggression"
     
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    Mr. Lincoln successfully turned the war to preserve the Union to the war to end slavery, through judicious use of a document that freed no one. But all's fair in love and war, and he won.
     
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    Annie,
    of all the people on this board, you are one that I respect more than most, and, as I understand, you are also a teacher. In your opinion, was it a civil war, or a second war for independence?
     

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