The Business of Government is to Promote Happiness or Business?

[OnePercenter]

The Annenberg foundation is ultra liberal

Because they promote people? Education? What would be the opposite?

 

[OnePercenter]

It's amazing how much better the forum looks when you filter out that dad2three guy. What a spambot!

The only reason that you would 'filter' opposing views is that YOUR views are so wrong.

 

[OnePercenter]

I have not voted for a repub since Bush I....When they started that evangelical christian representation and morphed into the party of God....

You really think that Republicans would actually say they promote the devil?

 

[Iceweasel]

The only reason that you would 'filter' opposing views is that YOUR views are so wrong.

That doesn't even make sense. Poser.

 

[Dad2three]

Socialism - We're all in this boat together, we should help each other...

A noble idea that when enforced by gov't at gunpoint just doesn't work.

Yes, and we see the libertarian wonderland where again? The closest you Klowns have are Somalia or Russia, lol

The closest you socialist BOZOs have to your "Worker's Paradise" is Venezuela and Cuba. Yeah ... let's be like them.

Well No Bubba, I'd take Germany, Sweden, UK, etc. You know most other developed nation who don't allow the 'job creators' to treat US as chattel? lol
HOW ABOUT A SPOT YOU WANT TO COPY, SINCE YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE US HAS BEEN GOING THE PAST 100+ YEARS WITH PROGRESS?

I like progress, I don't feel the need for us to "copy" anyone, and I like America just the way it is. In case you haven't been paying attention, it's you who doesn't like it here and you who keeps blaming Repubs for the mess you seem to think we are in. I know no other country whose economic model I would impose on Americans (while you whiny loony leftists certainly would) so let me suggest, with all due respect, that you choose a country more to your liking and get the fuck outta mine.
Oh ... and have a nice day.

Weird, NAME the ECONOMIC system I'd want to change the US too? Yes, I prefer the POLITICAL system that most social democracies use, like Sweden, Norway, Germany, etc. ALL of who use CAPITALIST ECONOMIC SYSTEMS, lol


Conservatives fighting progress since they stood with King George in 1776

And YES, POLICY THE REPUBS GAVE US THE PAST 30+ YEARS HAS PUT US IN A SHITTY PLACE IF YOU HADN'T NOTICED!

 

[Dad2three]

Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
Contrary to Entitlement Society Rhetoric Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly Disabled or Working Households mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Of course, when you remove those on Social Security (you know ... those who paid for their SS benefits) from the equation, the numbers are less propaganda and more truth.

So you'll stick with OPINIONS. Got it

 

[OnePercenter]

Thank you for finally making the point I and every other conservative here has been trying to get through your denseness. Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves yet can't get it out of the ground fast enough to keep up with expenditures. Oil accounts for 96% of their export revenue, meaning it is virtually all they produce. That's what happens when you put the gov't in charge of productivity (socialism).
Old Soviet joke: "We pretend to work and the gov't pretends to pay us."

And again, I've never promoted Socialism, I've pointed out that Socialist Ideals help the middle class prosper.

Free education for children and abolishing child labor are Marxism. Think we should reverse those?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

A noble idea that when enforced by gov't at gunpoint just doesn't work.

Yes, and we see the libertarian wonderland where again? The closest you Klowns have are Somalia or Russia, lol

The closest you socialist BOZOs have to your "Worker's Paradise" is Venezuela and Cuba. Yeah ... let's be like them.

Well No Bubba, I'd take Germany, Sweden, UK, etc. You know most other developed nation who don't allow the 'job creators' to treat US as chattel? lol
HOW ABOUT A SPOT YOU WANT TO COPY, SINCE YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE US HAS BEEN GOING THE PAST 100+ YEARS WITH PROGRESS?

I like progress, I don't feel the need for us to "copy" anyone, and I like America just the way it is. In case you haven't been paying attention, it's you who doesn't like it here and you who keeps blaming Repubs for the mess you seem to think we are in. I know no other country whose economic model I would impose on Americans (while you whiny loony leftists certainly would) so let me suggest, with all due respect, that you choose a country more to your liking and get the fuck outta mine.
Oh ... and have a nice day.

Weird, NAME the ECONOMIC system I'd want to change the US too? Yes, I prefer the POLITICAL system that most social democracies use, like Sweden, Norway, Germany, etc. ALL of who use CAPITALIST ECONOMIC SYSTEMS, lol


Conservatives fighting progress since they stood with King George in 1776

And YES, POLICY THE REPUBS GAVE US THE PAST 30+ YEARS HAS PUT US IN A SHITTY PLACE IF YOU HADN'T NOTICED!

and what do you propose to fix it or are you afraid to say as a typical liberal?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

And again, I've never promoted Socialism,

dear, you are 100% socialist and stupid. You want a bigger and bigger govt controlling more and more. Obama does not call himself a socialist either despite having had 3 communist parents and voting to left of Bernie Sanders, an open socialist. THe folks who spied for Stalin were code named "liberals" by the KGB.



Norman Thomas quotes:

The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

 

[OnePercenter]

BS. I pay the same and have the same coverage except my deductibles went up a few thousand per year. I am now responsible for the first $6000/yr in costs (3x$2000) as opposed to the first $1500/yr (3x$500).
I did, however, get to keep my doctors.

You pay? Why not your employer? Are you self-employed? If so, lets hear about net costs.

 

[Dad2three]

You DO understand capitalism is an ECONOMIC system AND socialism is a political system? No I doubt you do!

Wrong again, Princess:

Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy, as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.

Socialism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Well hell as long as Wiki says so it MUST be true right?



.
socialism

1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

2.procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.

Socialism Define Socialism at Dictionary.com

Don't give me ther Mises, CATO, etc bullshit on it either

WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT BEING PUSHED, OR USED IN WESTERN EUROPE TODAY? HOW ABOUT THE US? lol

 

[Dad2three]

Founding Fathers wanted to "Spread the Wealth"

In a letter to James Madison in 1785, for instance, Thomas Jefferson suggested that taxes could be used to reduce "the enormous inequality" between rich and poor. He wrote that one way of "silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise."

Interesting. Didn't they set it up so women had no vote?

Thanks for agreeing they wanted to spread the wealth. Not to worry though the PROGRESSIVES got the the right to vote for women along with blacks too. Conservatives fought both...

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

BS. I pay the same and have the same coverage except my deductibles went up a few thousand per year. I am now responsible for the first $6000/yr in costs (3x$2000) as opposed to the first $1500/yr (3x$500).
I did, however, get to keep my doctors.

You pay? Why not your employer? Are you self-employed? If so, lets hear about net costs.

yes me too my obamacare deductible is now $6300 and premimum is up 30%!! Thank you Obama!!

 

[OnePercenter]

He's been proven wrong many times but it doesn't even slow him down. Just like with you. The guy is still fixated on Bush and no economist is blaming Bush at this point so why don't you two get a room and knock yourselves out? After you get back from your burger flipper job, I mean.

Here's one.

Culpability Is it Barack Obama s economy The Economist

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Thanks for agreeing they wanted to spread the wealth. Not to worry though the PROGRESSIVES got the the right to vote for women along with blacks too. Conservatives fought both...

spread wealth? So then what was in Constitution or the way they governed through Monroe to confirm this??

See why we say the liberal will be slow?

 

[Dad2three]

Yes, and we see the libertarian wonderland where again? The closest you Klowns have are Somalia or Russia, lol

The closest you socialist BOZOs have to your "Worker's Paradise" is Venezuela and Cuba. Yeah ... let's be like them.

Well No Bubba, I'd take Germany, Sweden, UK, etc. You know most other developed nation who don't allow the 'job creators' to treat US as chattel? lol
HOW ABOUT A SPOT YOU WANT TO COPY, SINCE YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE US HAS BEEN GOING THE PAST 100+ YEARS WITH PROGRESS?

I like progress, I don't feel the need for us to "copy" anyone, and I like America just the way it is. In case you haven't been paying attention, it's you who doesn't like it here and you who keeps blaming Repubs for the mess you seem to think we are in. I know no other country whose economic model I would impose on Americans (while you whiny loony leftists certainly would) so let me suggest, with all due respect, that you choose a country more to your liking and get the fuck outta mine.
Oh ... and have a nice day.

Weird, NAME the ECONOMIC system I'd want to change the US too? Yes, I prefer the POLITICAL system that most social democracies use, like Sweden, Norway, Germany, etc. ALL of who use CAPITALIST ECONOMIC SYSTEMS, lol


Conservatives fighting progress since they stood with King George in 1776

And YES, POLICY THE REPUBS GAVE US THE PAST 30+ YEARS HAS PUT US IN A SHITTY PLACE IF YOU HADN'T NOTICED!

and what do you propose to fix it or are you afraid to say as a typical liberal?

The billionaires you suck off will not like it but how about going back to LBJ's tax rates you guys praise JFK for (since LBJ gave US civil rights and the great society, lol)

You know since the prosperity was BROADLY shared versus the past 30+ years of conservatives policies?

 

[OnePercenter]

He's been proven wrong many times but it doesn't even slow him down. Just like with you. The guy is still fixated on Bush and no economist is blaming Bush at this point so why don't you two get a room and knock yourselves out? After you get back from your burger flipper job, I mean.

Here's another.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/blaming-obama-for-george-w-bushs-policies/?_r=0

 

[Iceweasel]

He's been proven wrong many times but it doesn't even slow him down. Just like with you. The guy is still fixated on Bush and no economist is blaming Bush at this point so why don't you two get a room and knock yourselves out? After you get back from your burger flipper job, I mean.

Here's one.

Culpability Is it Barack Obama s economy The Economist

Who's the author? The article is 2-3 years old too.

 

[Iceweasel]

He's been proven wrong many times but it doesn't even slow him down. Just like with you. The guy is still fixated on Bush and no economist is blaming Bush at this point so why don't you two get a room and knock yourselves out? After you get back from your burger flipper job, I mean.

Here's another.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/blaming-obama-for-george-w-bushs-policies/?_r=0

Learn how to quote the context.

 

[OnePercenter]

A noble idea that when enforced by gov't at gunpoint just doesn't work.

So we should have toll roads everywhere? Pay the Fire Captain when she/he shows? The Police Officer? A coin insert at traffic lights? etc.