The British Empire Shame Thread

[Tommy Tainant]

Uncovering the brutal truth about the British empire | Marc Parry

Britains gulag.

 

[Mindful]

Uncovering the brutal truth about the British empire | Marc Parry

Britains gulag.

So what are you going to do about it?

 

[Drummond]

Uncovering the brutal truth about the British empire | Marc Parry

Britains gulag.

... H'm. I don't think anyone could ever credibly 'accuse' you of patriotic feeling, Tommy ... you seem very determined to paint the UK in the darkest light you can.

Mindful's question is an excellent one. I echo it. What ARE you going to do about it ?

 

[Picaro]

Uncovering the brutal truth about the British empire | Marc Parry

Britains gulag.

So what are you going to do about it?

Pretend that neither he or his ancestors ever benefited personally, and he's going to see to it all you 'Other People' pay dearly for whatever it is he thinks you're guilty of.

And Stuff.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Uncovering the brutal truth about the British empire | Marc Parry

Britains gulag.

... H'm. I don't think anyone could ever credibly 'accuse' you of patriotic feeling, Tommy ... you seem very determined to paint the UK in the darkest light you can.

Mindful's question is an excellent one. I echo it. What ARE you going to do about it ?

Mindfuls question is on the intellectual level of an infant. In truth there is very little any of us can do over events that happened a long time back.
All the principals will now be dead.
What we can all do is be honest about our countries role in all of this and stop fantasising about some bullshit golden age of empire.
Is that within your skillset ?

 

[Mindful]

Uncovering the brutal truth about the British empire | Marc Parry

Britains gulag.

... H'm. I don't think anyone could ever credibly 'accuse' you of patriotic feeling, Tommy ... you seem very determined to paint the UK in the darkest light you can.

Mindful's question is an excellent one. I echo it. What ARE you going to do about it ?

Mindfuls question is on the intellectual level of an infant. In truth there is very little any of us can do over events that happened a long time back.
All the principals will now be dead.
What we can all do is be honest about our countries role in all of this and stop fantasising about some bullshit golden age of empire.
Is that within your skillset ?

Oops.

I must be doing something right.

Rule Britannia!

 

[PredFan]

In this case as in the case with the US, ignorant people look at history through the prism of today's values. Those who know true history, know that those times were brutal, life was short and sometimes not valued. This was true throughout the world.

People today look at the successful countries like GB and the USA, and criticise them for being mean to lesser nations. They don't know or think about how cruel and brutal those nations whereas well. Those countries just weren't as successful, and everyone looks at them as poor innocent victims. Native Americans are a fine example of that. Today, ignorant people think that the "Indians" of those days were peaceful, honorable, trusting inhabitants who lived in harmony with the land, and were innocent of violence and cruelty until the white man came along.

The truth is very different. There is no shame for GB, no shame for the US. There is just today.

 

[Picaro]

In this case as in the case with the US, ignorant people look at history through the prism of today's values. Those who know true history, know that those times were brutal, life was short and sometimes not valued. This was true throughout the world.

People today look at the successful countries like GB and the USA, and criticise them for being mean to lesser nations. They don't know or think about how cruel and brutal those nations whereas well. Those countries just weren't as successful, and everyone looks at them as poor innocent victims. Native Americans are a fine example of that. Today, ignorant people think that the "Indians" of those days were peaceful, honorable, trusting inhabitants who lived in harmony with the land, and were innocent of violence and cruelty until the white man came along.

The truth is very different. There is no shame for GB, no shame for the US. There is just today.

Well, part of the problem with historical discussions is that most of the savages and cretins either don't have a tradition of writing histories or are illiterates, while Europe has hundreds of years of documentation and written references that can be cited endlessly over and over, giving a completely distorted and one-sided view of it all, for one. This elaboration of context and cautionary advice when studying history used to be a mandatory preliminary warning for first year History and Political Science students in both high schools and universities, but no longer.

 

[PredFan]

In this case as in the case with the US, ignorant people look at history through the prism of today's values. Those who know true history, know that those times were brutal, life was short and sometimes not valued. This was true throughout the world.

People today look at the successful countries like GB and the USA, and criticise them for being mean to lesser nations. They don't know or think about how cruel and brutal those nations whereas well. Those countries just weren't as successful, and everyone looks at them as poor innocent victims. Native Americans are a fine example of that. Today, ignorant people think that the "Indians" of those days were peaceful, honorable, trusting inhabitants who lived in harmony with the land, and were innocent of violence and cruelty until the white man came along.

The truth is very different. There is no shame for GB, no shame for the US. There is just today.

Well, part of the problem with historical discussions is that most of the savages and cretins either don't have a tradition of writing histories or are illiterates, while Europe has hundreds of years of documentation and written references that can be cited endlessly over and over, giving a completely distorted and one-sided view of it all, for one. This elaboration of context and cautionary advice when studying history used to be a mandatory preliminary warning for first year History and Political Science students in both high schools and universities, but no longer.

What you say is absolutely true. For instance the Huns had no written history at all and everything we know about Attilla and the Huns was written by the people he conquered.

Still, there is plenty of evidence in ancient dig sites that can confirm the brutal shortness of life and the cruel things people did to each other. You can't judge ancient times by today's standards and values, yet that it exactly what we are doing.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

In this case as in the case with the US, ignorant people look at history through the prism of today's values. Those who know true history, know that those times were brutal, life was short and sometimes not valued. This was true throughout the world.

People today look at the successful countries like GB and the USA, and criticise them for being mean to lesser nations. They don't know or think about how cruel and brutal those nations whereas well. Those countries just weren't as successful, and everyone looks at them as poor innocent victims. Native Americans are a fine example of that. Today, ignorant people think that the "Indians" of those days were peaceful, honorable, trusting inhabitants who lived in harmony with the land, and were innocent of violence and cruelty until the white man came along.

The truth is very different. There is no shame for GB, no shame for the US. There is just today.

Were they using a different bible for guidance ?

 

[PredFan]

In this case as in the case with the US, ignorant people look at history through the prism of today's values. Those who know true history, know that those times were brutal, life was short and sometimes not valued. This was true throughout the world.

People today look at the successful countries like GB and the USA, and criticise them for being mean to lesser nations. They don't know or think about how cruel and brutal those nations whereas well. Those countries just weren't as successful, and everyone looks at them as poor innocent victims. Native Americans are a fine example of that. Today, ignorant people think that the "Indians" of those days were peaceful, honorable, trusting inhabitants who lived in harmony with the land, and were innocent of violence and cruelty until the white man came along.

The truth is very different. There is no shame for GB, no shame for the US. There is just today.

Were they using a different bible for guidance ?

Yeah, but not much different. Is this the "Bible shame thread" or the "Great Britain" shame thread?

Their motovation has little to do with anything. You think the Moors conquered Southern Spain because the bible said so? What bible did Attilla the Hun use?

All the way up to as recent as the early 20th century, life was brutal, rulers were vicious tyrants, and everyone was at war with somebody.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

In this case as in the case with the US, ignorant people look at history through the prism of today's values. Those who know true history, know that those times were brutal, life was short and sometimes not valued. This was true throughout the world.

People today look at the successful countries like GB and the USA, and criticise them for being mean to lesser nations. They don't know or think about how cruel and brutal those nations whereas well. Those countries just weren't as successful, and everyone looks at them as poor innocent victims. Native Americans are a fine example of that. Today, ignorant people think that the "Indians" of those days were peaceful, honorable, trusting inhabitants who lived in harmony with the land, and were innocent of violence and cruelty until the white man came along.

The truth is very different. There is no shame for GB, no shame for the US. There is just today.

Were they using a different bible for guidance ?

Yeah, but not much different. Is this the "Bible shame thread" or the "Great Britain" shame thread?

Their motovation has little to do with anything. You think the Moors conquered Southern Spain because the bible said so? What bible did Attilla the Hun use?

All the way up to as recent as the early 20th century, life was brutal, rulers were vicious tyrants, and everyone was at war with somebody.

Technology made the C20th more brutal than any before it.

The empire builders were motivated by greed and that hasnt changed since the dawn of time.

The british empire was supposedly a christian empire and killing and stealing were not allowed back then either. Similarly in the US. Greed and self interest built the country and not christian values.

 

[PredFan]

In this case as in the case with the US, ignorant people look at history through the prism of today's values. Those who know true history, know that those times were brutal, life was short and sometimes not valued. This was true throughout the world.

People today look at the successful countries like GB and the USA, and criticise them for being mean to lesser nations. They don't know or think about how cruel and brutal those nations whereas well. Those countries just weren't as successful, and everyone looks at them as poor innocent victims. Native Americans are a fine example of that. Today, ignorant people think that the "Indians" of those days were peaceful, honorable, trusting inhabitants who lived in harmony with the land, and were innocent of violence and cruelty until the white man came along.

The truth is very different. There is no shame for GB, no shame for the US. There is just today.

Were they using a different bible for guidance ?

Yeah, but not much different. Is this the "Bible shame thread" or the "Great Britain" shame thread?

Their motovation has little to do with anything. You think the Moors conquered Southern Spain because the bible said so? What bible did Attilla the Hun use?

All the way up to as recent as the early 20th century, life was brutal, rulers were vicious tyrants, and everyone was at war with somebody.

Technology made the C20th more brutal than any before it.

The empire builders were motivated by greed and that hasnt changed since the dawn of time.

The british empire was supposedly a christian empire and killing and stealing were not allowed back then either. Similarly in the US. Greed and self interest built the country and not christian values.

I never argued that. I'm only saying that those times weren't like today. The British Empire was not the only brutal nation, just the most successful. Ever heard of the Roman Empire? The Persian Empire? Alexander the Great? Attilla the Hun? Do you know the wars that factions and dynasties fought in China for millennia?

You are looking at history through the prism of today's values. And you have tunnel vision to boot.

 

[Picaro]

In this case as in the case with the US, ignorant people look at history through the prism of today's values. Those who know true history, know that those times were brutal, life was short and sometimes not valued. This was true throughout the world.

People today look at the successful countries like GB and the USA, and criticise them for being mean to lesser nations. They don't know or think about how cruel and brutal those nations whereas well. Those countries just weren't as successful, and everyone looks at them as poor innocent victims. Native Americans are a fine example of that. Today, ignorant people think that the "Indians" of those days were peaceful, honorable, trusting inhabitants who lived in harmony with the land, and were innocent of violence and cruelty until the white man came along.

The truth is very different. There is no shame for GB, no shame for the US. There is just today.

Were they using a different bible for guidance ?

Yeah, but not much different. Is this the "Bible shame thread" or the "Great Britain" shame thread?

Their motovation has little to do with anything. You think the Moors conquered Southern Spain because the bible said so? What bible did Attilla the Hun use?

All the way up to as recent as the early 20th century, life was brutal, rulers were vicious tyrants, and everyone was at war with somebody.

Technology made the C20th more brutal than any before it.

The empire builders were motivated by greed and that hasnt changed since the dawn of time.

The british empire was supposedly a christian empire and killing and stealing were not allowed back then either. Similarly in the US. Greed and self interest built the country and not christian values.

I never argued that. I'm only saying that those times weren't like today. The British Empire was not the only brutal nation, just the most successful. Ever heard of the Roman Empire? The Persian Empire? Alexander the Great? Attilla the Hun? Do you know the wars that factions and dynasties fought in China for millennia?

You are looking at history through the prism of today's values. And you have tunnel vision to boot.

Of course Tommy, like the rest of the PC Nazis, will never ever bring up by far and away the absolute worst of the savagery and brutalisms, ongoing for centuries and still a factor today, the Islamist massacres and savagery, which made the Holocaust look like a schoolyard yelling match. They outdo everybody in history, and there is simply no remotely comparable record of atrocities anywhere, even in China and SE Asia, noted for their 'creativity' in ways to torture each other. Typical.

 

[Picaro]

As for the 'evul Xians' they were far less murderous, despite the sniveling bullshit narratives popular today. So were the Romans as well, when compared to their typical enemy cultures, most of which were into human sacrifices of infants and other wonderful pastimes so admired by hippies and assorted degenerates.

The British at their worst were a bunch of candy assed pacifists compared to the average African and Asian 'cultures', and that is even more true today, no need to go back far at all.

 

[Mindful]

A Sikkimese woman carrying a British man on her back.

Shame on you, Tommy.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

In this case as in the case with the US, ignorant people look at history through the prism of today's values. Those who know true history, know that those times were brutal, life was short and sometimes not valued. This was true throughout the world.

People today look at the successful countries like GB and the USA, and criticise them for being mean to lesser nations. They don't know or think about how cruel and brutal those nations whereas well. Those countries just weren't as successful, and everyone looks at them as poor innocent victims. Native Americans are a fine example of that. Today, ignorant people think that the "Indians" of those days were peaceful, honorable, trusting inhabitants who lived in harmony with the land, and were innocent of violence and cruelty until the white man came along.

The truth is very different. There is no shame for GB, no shame for the US. There is just today.

Were they using a different bible for guidance ?

Yeah, but not much different. Is this the "Bible shame thread" or the "Great Britain" shame thread?

Their motovation has little to do with anything. You think the Moors conquered Southern Spain because the bible said so? What bible did Attilla the Hun use?

All the way up to as recent as the early 20th century, life was brutal, rulers were vicious tyrants, and everyone was at war with somebody.

Technology made the C20th more brutal than any before it.

The empire builders were motivated by greed and that hasnt changed since the dawn of time.

The british empire was supposedly a christian empire and killing and stealing were not allowed back then either. Similarly in the US. Greed and self interest built the country and not christian values.

I never argued that. I'm only saying that those times weren't like today. The British Empire was not the only brutal nation, just the most successful. Ever heard of the Roman Empire? The Persian Empire? Alexander the Great? Attilla the Hun? Do you know the wars that factions and dynasties fought in China for millennia?

You are looking at history through the prism of today's values. And you have tunnel vision to boot.

Of course Tommy, like the rest of the PC Nazis, will never ever bring up by far and away the absolute worst of the savagery and brutalisms, ongoing for centuries and still a factor today, the Islamist massacres and savagery, which made the Holocaust look like a schoolyard yelling match. They outdo everybody in history, and there is simply no remotely comparable record of atrocities anywhere, even in China and SE Asia, noted for their 'creativity' in ways to torture each other. Typical.

Perhaps you could list the "Islamist massacres and savagery, which made the Holocaust look like a schoolyard yelling match."
I actually think you are talking through your arse.

 

[barryqwalsh]

A Sikkimese woman carrying a British man on her back.

Shame on you, Tommy.

She was honored to do it!

 

[barryqwalsh]

Tory MP sparks backlash claiming 'British Empire' won the Olympics

 

[ThirdTerm]

Britain withdrew from Asia only after the myth of British invincibility was completely shattered after the fall of Singapore and the British could no longer believe that British rule could be sustained in Asia in the post-war era. Subject peoples under British rule were under the illusion that white troops would never be defeated and they did not even think about rising up against British rule. As a result, the British rarely committed atrocities to maintain the empire, such as the Mau Mau massacre in the 1950s. Moreover, local ruling elites were in cahoots with the British, working as colonial administrators on their behalf. Overall, it was a benign and liberal empire.