Zone1 The Book of Enoch...How should Christians think about it, and why does it matter?

[Woodznutz]

I didn't quote it because I assume you know it.

I do, but others might not.

 

[TNHarley]

There is the view that the entire Book of Enoch is pseudepigrapha, in other words not actually written by Enoch, and therefore not trustworthy.

Why would that be an issue? Isnt the entire NT hearsay?

 

[TNHarley]

Because it's outlandish.

But things like turning water into wine, creating plants before the sun, and parting an entire sea isnt?

 

[Woodznutz]

Why would that be an issue? Isnt the entire NT hearsay?

Religious hearsay is more useful than secular hearsay.

 

[Woodznutz]

But things like turning water into wine, creating plants before the sun, and parting an entire sea isnt?

You do realize that everything on earth is supernatural. Even nature isn't natural.

 

[TNHarley]

Religious hearsay is more useful than secular hearsay.

 

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But things like turning water into wine, creating plants before the sun, and parting an entire sea isnt?

There's a lot to unpack there.

 

[Woodznutz]

You do realize that everything on earth is supernatural. Even nature isn't natural.

Many scientists over the years have stated that by all accounts earth shouldn't even exist.

 

[TNHarley]

There's a lot to unpack there.

Its a lot to take in, as well lol

 

[Woodznutz]

Regarding the sun and plants, the sun was there from the beginning, perhaps billions of years ago. Genesis describes the latest renewal of the earth's surface, not the original creation of verse one. (See Gap Theory.)

 

[TNHarley]

Regarding the sun and plants, the sun was there from the beginning, perhaps billions of years ago. Genesis describes the latest renewal of the earth's surface, not the original creation of verse one. (See Gap Theory.)

Yes, you have to have people make shit up to rationalize the crazy shit in the bible. I get it.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yes, you have to have people make shit up to rationalize the crazy shit in the bible. I get it.

That 'crazy shit' is literal. The translators often used traditional beliefs when translating the Hebrew texts.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yes, you have to have people make shit up to rationalize the crazy shit in the bible. I get it.

No you don't.

 

[TNHarley]

No. No you don't.

Apparently so. Considering thats what you just did

 

[Woodznutz]

Apparently so. Considering thats what you just did

How would you know if what I say is made up or not?

 

[TNHarley]

How would you know if what I say is made up or not?

Gap theory

 

[Woodznutz]

Gap theory

I didn't make it up. It is generally rejected because it upsets the YEC's (young earth creationists). However, it reconciles the apparent age of the earth with the Genesis narrative.

 

[TNHarley]

I didn't make it up. It is generally rejected because it upsets the YEC's (young earth creationists). However, it reconciles the apparent age of the earth with the Genesis narrative.

I know YOU didnt lol. When I said that, I meant you christians.

 

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Its a lot to take in, as well lol

Sure. The question is what are you looking for.

 

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I know YOU didnt lol. When I said that, I meant you christians.

The issue only exists if one reads these accounts literally. Which they shouldn’t.