Zone1 The Biblical God destroyed human sacrifice.

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It seems that all of the ancient religions engaged in human sacrifice, along with the best known as the Aztec, Mayan, and even Roman and Greek practices.

It certainly makes reading the account of God asking Abraham to sacrifice his son make more sense because during those dark times it was merely business as usual. We don't even see Abraham question God about it, showing that back then it was just expected.

In fact, they found human sacrificial pits in the land of Ur, from which Abraham was associated.

God then stopping Abraham from sacrificing his son sent a message, not just to Abraham, but to all those who would follow after the God of the Bible, which is that God was not about human sacrifice. It also sent a message to the world that human sacrifice was morally repugnant. Yes, we had to be told this.

Sad.

So, the next time someone tries to tell you that all religions are equal..............yea................NO!

They are not, not even close.

All religions after simply conformed to the Hebrew morality.
 

It seems that all of the ancient religions engaged in human sacrifice, along with the best known as the Aztec, Mayan, and even Roman and Greek practices.

It certainly makes reading the account of God asking Abraham to sacrifice his son make more sense because during those dark times it was merely business as usual. We don't even see Abraham question God about it, showing that back then it was just expected.

In fact, they found human sacrificial pits in the land of Ur, from which Abraham was associated.

God then stopping Abraham from sacrificing his son sent a message, not just to Abraham, but to all those who would follow after the God of the Bible, which is that God was not about human sacrifice. It also sent a message to the world that human sacrifice was morally repugnant. Yes, we had to be told this.

Sad.

So, the next time someone tries to tell you that all religions are equal..............yea................NO!

They are not, not even close.

All religions after simply conformed to the Hebrew morality.
Christianity is based on human sacrifice, isn't it?
 
Christianity is based on human sacrifice, isn't it?
Care to show any commands from Christ that lead you to that belief? Maybe you've never understood His sacrifice. If this Jesus was not the Creator God who took human form, then perhaps you'd have a point. Those who reject the idea that He was who He said He was, will never accept Him, anyway, and His sacrifice cannot save them.
For the rest, they have come to believe that man and God were separated by the human instinct to disobey and that we do not have the power within ourselves to live a perfect life, breaking none of His laws. Therefore He either had to allow His creation to all suffer the same fate OR provide a path to allow them back into relationship - which is why He created them, to begin with.
To answer your question, no, Christianity is not based on human sacrifice. Christ was God in a human form therefore no human had the power to take His life from Him. He GAVE IT WILLINGLY.
 

It seems that all of the ancient religions engaged in human sacrifice, along with the best known as the Aztec, Mayan, and even Roman and Greek practices.

It certainly makes reading the account of God asking Abraham to sacrifice his son make more sense because during those dark times it was merely business as usual. We don't even see Abraham question God about it, showing that back then it was just expected.

In fact, they found human sacrificial pits in the land of Ur, from which Abraham was associated.

God then stopping Abraham from sacrificing his son sent a message, not just to Abraham, but to all those who would follow after the God of the Bible, which is that God was not about human sacrifice. It also sent a message to the world that human sacrifice was morally repugnant. Yes, we had to be told this.

Sad.

So, the next time someone tries to tell you that all religions are equal..............yea................NO!

They are not, not even close.

All religions after simply conformed to the Hebrew morality.
Curious that, even though it was a global practice that had been practiced for thousands of years, God told only one small group that it was evil? How many were sacrificed until the Brits finally ended the Indian practice of Sati in the 1800s?
 
Christianity is based on human sacrifice, isn't it?
Only if you are referring to the Son of God, whom Christians believe was God in the flesh, offered himself as a sacrifice.

Otherwise, no.
 
Curious that, even though it was a global practice that had been practiced for thousands of years, God told only one small group that it was evil? How many were sacrificed until the Brits finally ended the Indian practice of Sati in the 1800s?
God did tell people, like Cain who slew his brother

But they did not seem to much care

Today, people still don't listen, do they.

What is sad is, in ancient times they did not view human sacrifice as bad.
 
God did tell people, like Cain who slew his brother
The story of Genesis is unique to the Abrahamic religions. The Aztecs didn't know that story.

But they did not seem to much care

Today, people still don't listen, do they.

What is sad is, in ancient times they did not view human sacrifice as bad.
I guess it depended on your view of the afterlife. If it was a possibility, ending a life in this world just meant you moved on sooner and died a noble death appeasing your god.
 
The story of Genesis is unique to the Abrahamic religions. The Aztecs didn't know that story.


I guess it depended on your view of the afterlife. If it was a possibility, ending a life in this world just meant you moved on sooner and died a noble death appeasing your god.
People are all born with a conscience, and as such, must answer for violating it.

The Abrahamic religions made it official regarding condemning murder, but it has not changed the fact people still violate religion's mandates against it like they did violate their conscience.

At least society can stop embracing murder thanks to the Abrahamic religions, which helps to reduce the numbers, that is, except for societies that have become secularized.
 
God then stopping Abraham from sacrificing his son sent a message, not just to Abraham, but to all those who would follow after the God of the Bible, which is that God was not about human sacrifice.

no ... abraham defied the heavens and sacrificed another being instead,

Take your son to the land of Moriah and kill your son there as a sacrifice for me. This must be Isaac, your only son, the one you love. Use him ...
Abraham looks up and sees a ram and sacrifices it instead of Isaac.

votto - toes the line for hereditary idolators, the jews - and paterfamilias to persecute and victimize the innocent by their contorted and nefarious desert religion.


- as a sacrifice for me ... not so either, all in the heavens are equal. the desert heretics are many - their documents are all the same.
 
Care to show any commands from Christ that lead you to that belief? Maybe you've never understood His sacrifice. If this Jesus was not the Creator God who took human form, then perhaps you'd have a point. Those who reject the idea that He was who He said He was, will never accept Him, anyway, and His sacrifice cannot save them.
For the rest, they have come to believe that man and God were separated by the human instinct to disobey and that we do not have the power within ourselves to live a perfect life, breaking none of His laws. Therefore He either had to allow His creation to all suffer the same fate OR provide a path to allow them back into relationship - which is why He created them, to begin with.
To answer your question, no, Christianity is not based on human sacrifice. Christ was God in a human form therefore no human had the power to take His life from Him. He GAVE IT WILLINGLY.
Why do you religious nuts do that every time? The thread , and also my remark were neither about whether your religious leader created anything. Whether he willingly was sacrificed is not the point. You constantly say he was sacrificed. Your own rhetoric says he became human so he could be sacrificed. The "perfect sacrifice". What does the "lamb of god" allude to if not a sacrifice? Yes your religion was based on human sacrifice. Perhaps you decided you shouldn't do that at some later point, but that doesn't change YOUR story about how YOUR religion started.
 
Only if you are referring to the Son of God, whom Christians believe was God in the flesh, offered himself as a sacrifice.

Otherwise, no.
Isn't that the event that you claim was the basis of Christianity? Without that story, it all loses it's mystical impact, doesn't it.
 
Why do you religious nuts do that every time? The thread , and also my remark were neither about whether your religious leader created anything. Whether he willingly was sacrificed is not the point. You constantly say he was sacrificed. Your own rhetoric says he became human so he could be sacrificed. The "perfect sacrifice". What does the "lamb of god" allude to if not a sacrifice? Yes your religion was based on human sacrifice. Perhaps you decided you shouldn't do that at some later point, but that doesn't change YOUR story about how YOUR religion started.
There are a wide range of Christian belief. For example, at least one denomination teaches that every sin that would ever be committed by a Christian was forgiven two thousand years before they were even born. Other denominations teach that God the Father punished God the Son for all the sins mankind committed. No one would be punished for the sins they committed, because Jesus took on that punishment.

On the other end of the spectrum there are those of us who believe Jesus' Perfect Sacrifice was his obedience to the Father in contrast to the disobedience of Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve set one example; Jesus set another. Catholics believe Jesus took away the sins of the world through by teaching us repentance for the forgiveness of sins and that he had both the power and the authority to make this proclamation and to forgive sins.

Disciple and Discipline have the same root. Christians, despite their different take on Jesus' life on teachings, do want to be a disciple of Christ, meaning they do want to take on his discipline to the Father's will as he did.
 
Isn't that the event that you claim was the basis of Christianity? Without that story, it all loses it's mystical impact, doesn't it.
Not for Christians who believe sacrifice in their own lives is discerning the will of God and following it.
 
There are a wide range of Christian belief. For example, at least one denomination teaches that every sin that would ever be committed by a Christian was forgiven two thousand years before they were even born. Other denominations teach that God the Father punished God the Son for all the sins mankind committed. No one would be punished for the sins they committed, because Jesus took on that punishment.

On the other end of the spectrum there are those of us who believe Jesus' Perfect Sacrifice was his obedience to the Father in contrast to the disobedience of Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve set one example; Jesus set another. Catholics believe Jesus took away the sins of the world through by teaching us repentance for the forgiveness of sins and that he had both the power and the authority to make this proclamation and to forgive sins.

Disciple and Discipline have the same root. Christians, despite their different take on Jesus' life on teachings, do want to be a disciple of Christ, meaning they do want to take on his discipline to the Father's will as he did.
All that is interesting and all, but has nothing to do with the OP or my remark. Any time any aspect of your religion is mentioned, you religious nuts think a general sermon is sufficient. It's not. Try to stick with what is actually being discussed.
 
In fact, it pertains to both. Perhaps there is a more in depth aspect on which you wish to focus?
Perhaps you could respond to the aspect I already mentioned. I appreciate your offer of help, but I'll decide for myself what I choose to address.
 
Why do you religious nuts do that every time? The thread , and also my remark were neither about whether your religious leader created anything. Whether he willingly was sacrificed is not the point. You constantly say he was sacrificed. Your own rhetoric says he became human so he could be sacrificed. The "perfect sacrifice". What does the "lamb of god" allude to if not a sacrifice? Yes your religion was based on human sacrifice. Perhaps you decided you shouldn't do that at some later point, but that doesn't change YOUR story about how YOUR religion started.
Because they way you word it, the term “human sacrifice” makes it sound like it is a normal occurrence to sacrifice a human.
 

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