The American Psyché.. changes

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    mmm...With Democrat/Republican policies, regulations and rather poor leadership over the years is taking a toll on the classic American resolve of self reliance, self determination and such. With many almost begging for complete government control over their life's now.. I'm left with this.

    I wonder if John F. Kennedy or Reagan would even recognize the Democrat/Republican Party's of today?


    -------------------from Kennedy's 1961 inaugural address

    "...the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."
    "Let the word go forth.....that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans."
    "Let every nation know... that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
    "The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life."
    "Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."
    "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country"
    "For only when our arms are sufficient beyond doubt can we be certain beyond doubt that they will never be employed."
    "All this will not be finished in the first 100 days. Nor will it be finished in the first 1,000 days, nor in the life of this Administration, nor even perhaps in our lifetime on this planet. But let us begin."
    "...let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God's work must truly be our own."

    Inaugural address of John F. Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    No....i really believe he wouldn't.

    My parents were always democrats...they mourned when Kennedy died. I was only in 4th grade, and everyone in class bowed their heads.

    I know for a fact, that my parents would not have still been democrats now. In fact i know my parents voted for Reagan, and for dad Bush...they both died in the 90's. I would love to talk to my dad right now about the way things are now...i know it would be great!
     
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    Kennedy would probably be horrified at the total corporate sellouts both parties are, not so sure Reagan would find it such a bad thing that working people have no voice in our country.
     
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    I'm tending to agree with you.. we're squabbling over who's more to blame it seems.

    I think we should just accept we're being played by both Political Parties and quit bullshitting ourselves.
     
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    Interesting.. I was in 4th grade myself and everyone around me was broken heart-ed, somber, kinda confused and in a state of shock, it was beyond political parties I'm thinkin.
     
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    Hey, hey!! I was also in 4th grade, we bowed our heads and said a prayer, are you ready for this????..............in a Public School. We prayed for our country and for our President and his family. O.M.G.
     
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    "Ask not what your country can do for you-ask what you can do for your country."

    Interesting that JFK did use the words and thoughts of someone who once penned them:

    "Are you a politician asking what your country can do for you or a zealous one asking what you can do for your country? If you are the first, then you are a parasite; if the second, then you are an oasis in a desert." Khalil Gibran.
     
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    Oh the horror....
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    "I wonder if John F. Kennedy would even recognize the Democrat Party of today?"

    Yes, Kennedy proposed an across-the-board tax rate cut (which was enacted under Johnson), and the economy flourished. Such tax cuts are always successful, and bring in more revenue to the government. President Reagan cut the top income tax rate from 70% to 28%, and we had 21 quarters of steady growth, and 20 million jobs were created. Revenue to the treasury almost doubled.

    (Please ignore the history revisionists who would have you believe that Reagan raised taxes. There were some adjustments in allowable deductions, but the overall rates were lowered, and that's why we grew out of the Carter "malaise" recession.)

    To answer your question: yes, today's Democrats would disown President Kennedy. Today's Democrats are more interested in punishing the rich that they are in helping the economy. If fact, they want as many people as possible to be in economic distress so they will become dependent on government, and move us toward a socialist welfare state.

    In 1962 John F. Kennedy cut taxes to stimulate the economy. Would the Democrats of today disown him? - Yahoo! Answers
     
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    Why I think it might be a good statement if almost no one voted this November since we do not have a no confidence option on the ballot.
    And it does not seem to matter which party gets control.
     
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