Texans can now openly carry guns in public without a permit or training...CNN: "Police say the new law makes it harder to do their jobs"

[Flash]

There are 46 states that allow open carry.

However, most of the gun crimes in this country are in Democrat controlled big city shitholes that have stringent gun laws and do not allow open carry.

If it was up to most police they would not want anybody else in the country to have guns except themselves. Kinda of like the Taliban in Afghanistan declaring the other day that no citizen can have a gun but they can.

Thank god for the Bill of Rights that says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Piss on anybody that hates the Bill of Rights.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

there is no correlation; you are mixing apples and oranges when comparing US and Japanese suicide rates. Guns matter here, they are not a factor in Japan.

Gun ownership doesn't cause people to commit suicide, is my point.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

This is a lie.

Neither progressives nor liberals support the ‘killing’ of children.

You support abortion, so you're lying.

 

[rightwinger]

Gun ownership doesn't cause people to commit suicide, is my point.

A suicidal person will look longingly at his gun

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

You’re the typical dishonest, willfully ignorant conservative.

From your link:

“The flat license tax here involved restrains in advance the Constitutional liberties of press and religion, and inevitably tends to suppress their exercise.”

The ruling concerned only the First Amendment, not the Second.

The fact that jurisdictions currently assess a fee for a concealed carry license or permit is further proof that you are wrong, the Supreme Court having ruled as to their constitutionality.

Concealed carry permits are no different than a poll tax and the court ruled that a right cannot be taxed.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

A suicidal person will look longingly at his gun

And if he don't have a gun, he'll figure out another way.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Are you a liberal, expecting government to diaper your bottom?

I was responding to a poster that demands mandatory training. Anyone who wants mandatory training should have no problem with the tax payers footing the bill. Right?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

A suicidal person will look longingly at his gun

How long have you contemplated suicide? Shouldn't you talk to someone?

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

I would disagree on that.

The right to have an abortion appears no where in the Constitution. The right to own and carry a gun has it's very own amendment.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was responding to a poster that demands mandatory training. Anyone who wants mandatory training should have no problem with the tax payers footing the bill. Right?

No. Why should the taxpayer pay for something that is unconstitutional?

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

No. Why should the taxpayer pay for something that is unconstitutional?

As long as there are people demanding training, those people should have some skin in the game.

There's already a tax on guns and ammunition under the Pittman-Robertson Act that should find that sort of thing.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Oh I do. Related to a couple in fact.

On whose side?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Crime went up in St Louis, MO when the same was done here.

Got a link?

 

[2aguy]

He is right you know. Most suicide attempts with drugs fail. Most with guns are successful.

Suicide statistics

Learn the latest statistics on suicide. Data on suicide are taken from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Data & Statistics Fatal Injury Report for 2018, as of March 1, 2020. Suicide rates listed are Age-Adjusted Rates.

afsp.org

In 2019, firearms accounted for 50.39% of all suicide deaths.


You know this how?

And if they didn't have guns they would have done it another way......jumping in front of a bullet train is just as fatal.....

 

[2aguy]

He is right you know. Most suicide attempts with drugs fail. Most with guns are successful.

Suicide statistics

Learn the latest statistics on suicide. Data on suicide are taken from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Data & Statistics Fatal Injury Report for 2018, as of March 1, 2020. Suicide rates listed are Age-Adjusted Rates.

afsp.org

In 2019, firearms accounted for 50.39% of all suicide deaths.


You know this how?

Back in the 1990s a girl my mother worked with committed suicide.....she sat in her car in a remote parking lot, and poured gasoline over herself and lit a match.....she had been dumped by her boyfriend and didn't want anyone stopping her...

You are an idiot....you don't understand any of the issues we discuss...

 

[2aguy]

there is no correlation; you are mixing apples and oranges when comparing US and Japanese suicide rates. Guns matter here, they are not a factor in Japan.

Moron...they kill themselves at a higher rate than we do and they don't use guns...guns are not the issue.

 

[2aguy]

There are 46 states that allow open carry.

However, most of the gun crimes in this country are in Democrat controlled big city shitholes that have stringent gun laws and do not allow open carry.

If it was up to most police they would not want anybody else in the country to have guns except themselves. Kinda of like the Taliban in Afghanistan declaring the other day that no citizen can have a gun but they can.

Thank god for the Bill of Rights that says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Piss on anybody that hates the Bill of Rights.

That isn't true about the police...

More than 91 percent of respondents support the concealed carry of firearms by civilians who have not been convicted of a felony and/or not been deemed psychologically/medically incapable.
A full 86 percent feel that casualties would have been reduced or avoided in recent tragedies like Newtown and Aurora if a legally-armed citizen was present (casualties reduced: 80 percent; avoided altogether: 60 percent).
Police Gun Control Survey: Are legally-armed citizens the best solution to gun violence?
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https://crimeresearch.org/2018/05/n...ncealed-handgun-reciprocity-and-other-issues/


National Association of Chiefs of Police Annual Surveys on Concealed Handgun Reciprocity and other issues - Crime Prevention Research Center

Concealed carry reciprocity: Support

29th annual Survey..... 88.62%
28th.............................86.4%
27th.............................63.3%

Can armed citizens help lower violent crime activity: Support

29th......75.77%
28th......76%
27th.......76.4%

 

[2aguy]

A suicidal person will look longingly at his gun

And tall buildings, trains, ropes, medicine cabinets....

 

[KissMy]

Got a link?

September 2014, Missouri lawmakers passed SB 656 allowing school employees to carry concealed guns on campuses. It also allows permitless concealed & open carry by any resident 19 years of age or older who may lawfully own a gun in cities or towns with bans against it.

 

[Flash]

That isn't true about the police...

More than 91 percent of respondents support the concealed carry of firearms by civilians who have not been convicted of a felony and/or not been deemed psychologically/medically incapable.
A full 86 percent feel that casualties would have been reduced or avoided in recent tragedies like Newtown and Aurora if a legally-armed citizen was present (casualties reduced: 80 percent; avoided altogether: 60 percent).
Police Gun Control Survey: Are legally-armed citizens the best solution to gun violence?
=======

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/05/n...ncealed-handgun-reciprocity-and-other-issues/


National Association of Chiefs of Police Annual Surveys on Concealed Handgun Reciprocity and other issues - Crime Prevention Research Center

Concealed carry reciprocity: Support

29th annual Survey..... 88.62%
28th.............................86.4%
27th.............................63.3%

Can armed citizens help lower violent crime activity: Support

29th......75.77%
28th......76%
27th.......76.4%

I hear some police say that they are pro gun but I don't trust them. I suspect that if the order ever went out to confiscate firearms many of them in the US would gladly do it. Maybe not every one but a great many.