Tennessee objects to federal landgrab

[Skylar]

The feds are all of us. Public ownership. Versus Private ownership. It's the land we share that private entities want for themselves alone. The National Parks belong to ALL of us citizens.

Bullshit, the upper tier Feds are NOT all of us, and I know from personal experience.

They represent the Oligarchs and could not give a flying piss what your lifestyle is now or ever.

We have to get them off their corporate leash and bring them to heel.

Tell that to the Koch brothers who want to get their mitts on more federal land. Land that is colllectivly owned by US citizens.

It's "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.

Say who? And if your answer is 'the constitution', show us the constitution saying this.

 

[koshergrl]

The group pushing to sell off (privatize) the national park system to the fossil fuel industry, and sell off all public land to the highest corporate bidder, is the Koch and ExxonMobil-funded Property and Environment Research Center (PERC).

Check it out.

Bullshit. The feds own way too much land west of the Dakotas.

The feds are all of us. Public ownership. Versus Private ownership. It's the land we share that private entities want for themselves alone. The National Parks belong to ALL of us citizens.

Er..no, they do not.

The federal government has no authority to claim or exert authority over public lands outside of forts, ports and 10 square miles around DC.

 

[Camp]

Great argument. The folks who argue the public lands as per Article 4 Section 3 Clause 4 are not owned by the government representing the citizens of America, they are owned by the State of Tennessee, a state which was created from federally owned public land by the way.

 

[Skylar]

The group pushing to sell off (privatize) the national park system to the fossil fuel industry, and sell off all public land to the highest corporate bidder, is the Koch and ExxonMobil-funded Property and Environment Research Center (PERC).

Check it out.

Bullshit. The feds own way too much land west of the Dakotas.

The feds are all of us. Public ownership. Versus Private ownership. It's the land we share that private entities want for themselves alone. The National Parks belong to ALL of us citizens.

Er..no, they do not.

The federal government has no authority to claim or exert authority over public lands outside of forts, ports and 10 square miles around DC.

Says who? Show us the constitution saying this.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT does NOT own BLM or FOREST SERVICE lands

Why don't you go waltz on up to some of the BLM managed land and let them know that.

That's exactly what is happening, in case you don't watch the news. Which apparently you don't.

Yep, that's what the welfare ranchers have done and will probably do again.

It won't change the fact that its not theirs and they won't be allowed to steal it.

BTW, the Oregon land was purchased from ranchers because they were failing, deeply in debt and the govt rescued them. Why should they be rescued again, at the tax payers' expense.

 

[Camp]

The group pushing to sell off (privatize) the national park system to the fossil fuel industry, and sell off all public land to the highest corporate bidder, is the Koch and ExxonMobil-funded Property and Environment Research Center (PERC).

Check it out.

Bullshit. The feds own way too much land west of the Dakotas.

The feds are all of us. Public ownership. Versus Private ownership. It's the land we share that private entities want for themselves alone. The National Parks belong to ALL of us citizens.

Er..no, they do not.

The federal government has no authority to claim or exert authority over public lands outside of forts, ports and 10 square miles around DC.

You are confusing the part of the constitution created for lands purchased by the federal government from a state after the statehood has been achieved, not at the time a territory transitions into a state.

 

[Skylar]

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT does NOT own BLM or FOREST SERVICE lands

Why don't you go waltz on up to some of the BLM managed land and let them know that.

That's exactly what is happening, in case you don't watch the news. Which apparently you don't.

Yep, that's what the welfare ranchers have done and will probably do again.

It won't change the fact that its not theirs and they won't be allowed to steal it.

BTW, the Oregon land was purchased from ranchers because they were failing, deeply in debt and the govt rescued them. Why should they be rescued again, at the tax payers' expense.

Oh, and the 'BLM burning out ranchers' video turned out to be horseshit, too.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The feds are all of us. Public ownership. Versus Private ownership. It's the land we share that private entities want for themselves alone. The National Parks belong to ALL of us citizens.

Bullshit, the upper tier Feds are NOT all of us, and I know from personal experience.

They represent the Oligarchs and could not give a flying piss what your lifestyle is now or ever.

We have to get them off their corporate leash and bring them to heel.

Tell that to the Koch brothers who want to get their mitts on more federal land. Land that is colllectivly owned by US citizens.

It's "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.

No, the land is not "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.
What a foolish thing to say.

Why do you do this?

You say stupid stuff like this and when you're asked for proof, you yammer than you already posted it.

Post proof of your statement.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The group pushing to sell off (privatize) the national park system to the fossil fuel industry, and sell off all public land to the highest corporate bidder, is the Koch and ExxonMobil-funded Property and Environment Research Center (PERC).

Check it out.

Bullshit. The feds own way too much land west of the Dakotas.

The feds are all of us. Public ownership. Versus Private ownership. It's the land we share that private entities want for themselves alone. The National Parks belong to ALL of us citizens.

Er..no, they do not.

The federal government has no authority to claim or exert authority over public lands outside of forts, ports and 10 square miles around DC.

Wrong again.

In fact, your hero - who likes to steal property from individuals - just bragged that, as prez, he could steal any land he wants.

Or do you have proof of this statement as well as your previous lies/mistakes?

 

[Camp]

The feds are all of us. Public ownership. Versus Private ownership. It's the land we share that private entities want for themselves alone. The National Parks belong to ALL of us citizens.

Bullshit, the upper tier Feds are NOT all of us, and I know from personal experience.

They represent the Oligarchs and could not give a flying piss what your lifestyle is now or ever.

We have to get them off their corporate leash and bring them to heel.

Tell that to the Koch brothers who want to get their mitts on more federal land. Land that is colllectivly owned by US citizens.

It's "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.

No, the land is not "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.
What a foolish thing to say.

Why do you do this?

You say stupid stuff like this and when you're asked for proof, you yammer than you already posted it.

Post proof of your statement.

We have been hearing this nonsense for weeks and unknown numbers of post and links have debunked the nonsense. She just plays the nuh-uh deny, deny , deny game.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT does NOT own BLM or FOREST SERVICE lands

Why don't you go waltz on up to some of the BLM managed land and let them know that.

That's exactly what is happening, in case you don't watch the news. Which apparently you don't.

Yep, that's what the welfare ranchers have done and will probably do again.

It won't change the fact that its not theirs and they won't be allowed to steal it.

BTW, the Oregon land was purchased from ranchers because they were failing, deeply in debt and the govt rescued them. Why should they be rescued again, at the tax payers' expense.

Oh, and the 'BLM burning out ranchers' video turned out to be horseshit, too.

I missed that one.

Because of our very rural location and poor internet connection, I don't usually watch many videos.

Is it in this thread? Or could you point me to it? TIA

 

[rightwinger]

We have significant national debt

I have no problem selling off some of our land to the states to pay down debt

 

[JakeStarkey]

kg is babbling. Federal lands are owned by We the People of the USA, not by the citizens of the state in which said lands are located. kg cannot show in the Constitution where her interpretation is valid.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The feds are all of us. Public ownership. Versus Private ownership. It's the land we share that private entities want for themselves alone. The National Parks belong to ALL of us citizens.

Bullshit, the upper tier Feds are NOT all of us, and I know from personal experience.

They represent the Oligarchs and could not give a flying piss what your lifestyle is now or ever.

We have to get them off their corporate leash and bring them to heel.

Tell that to the Koch brothers who want to get their mitts on more federal land. Land that is colllectivly owned by US citizens.

It's "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.

No, the land is not "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.
What a foolish thing to say.

Why do you do this?

You say stupid stuff like this and when you're asked for proof, you yammer than you already posted it.

Post proof of your statement.

We have been hearing this nonsense for weeks and unknown numbers of post and links have debunked the nonsense. She just plays the nuh-uh deny, deny , deny game.

Yep.

Any moment now, she'll say she posted it already and that we should all go searching through the gazillion threads/posts to find it.

She lies.

 

[Camp]

The feds are all of us. Public ownership. Versus Private ownership. It's the land we share that private entities want for themselves alone. The National Parks belong to ALL of us citizens.

Bullshit, the upper tier Feds are NOT all of us, and I know from personal experience.

They represent the Oligarchs and could not give a flying piss what your lifestyle is now or ever.

We have to get them off their corporate leash and bring them to heel.

Tell that to the Koch brothers who want to get their mitts on more federal land. Land that is colllectivly owned by US citizens.

It's "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.

No, the land is not "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.
What a foolish thing to say.

Why do you do this?

You say stupid stuff like this and when you're asked for proof, you yammer than you already posted it.

Post proof of your statement.

We have been hearing this nonsense for weeks and unknown numbers of post and links have debunked the nonsense. She just plays the nuh-uh deny, deny , deny game.

Trump will sell parts of Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons to build privately owned Hotels and golf courses, probably his own

 

[jc456]

Why do RWNJs want public land to be taken away from ALL Americans and given to only a few to make a profit on?

Why would any TRUE American want an end to our National Park System?

Why do you want to rape and pave the entire country, leaving nothing for Americans to enjoy and nothing for your children?

WTF is WRONG with you?

what do you need it for?

 

[Camp]

Bullshit, the upper tier Feds are NOT all of us, and I know from personal experience.

They represent the Oligarchs and could not give a flying piss what your lifestyle is now or ever.

We have to get them off their corporate leash and bring them to heel.

Tell that to the Koch brothers who want to get their mitts on more federal land. Land that is colllectivly owned by US citizens.

It's "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.

No, the land is not "collectively owned" only by the citizens of that state.
What a foolish thing to say.

Why do you do this?

You say stupid stuff like this and when you're asked for proof, you yammer than you already posted it.

Post proof of your statement.

We have been hearing this nonsense for weeks and unknown numbers of post and links have debunked the nonsense. She just plays the nuh-uh deny, deny , deny game.

Yep.

Any moment now, she'll say she posted it already and that we should all go searching through the gazillion threads/posts to find it.

She lies.

She should change her tag to "Ruggirl".

 

[JakeStarkey]

Before kg answers, this needs to be posted again.

Sez the law. "Public Lands: Federal and State Powers Over

No appropriation of public lands may be made for any purpose except by authority of Congress.

However, Congress was held to have acquiesced in the long-continued practice of withdrawing land from the public domain by Executive Orders. In 1976 Congress enacted legislation that established procedures for withdrawals and that explicitly disclaimed continued acquiescence in any implicit executive withdrawal authority. The comprehensive authority of Congress over public lands includes the power to prescribe the times, conditions, and mode of transfer thereof and to designate the persons to whom the transfer shall be made, to declare the dignity and effect of titles emanating from the United States, to determine the validity of grants which antedate the government's acquisition of the property, to exempt lands acquired under the homestead laws from previously contracted debts, to withdraw land from settlement and to prohibit grazing thereon, to prevent unlawful occupation of public property and to declare what are nuisances, as affecting such property, and provide for their abatement, and to prohibit the introduction of liquor on lands purchased and used for an Indian colony. Congress may limit the disposition of the public domain to a manner consistent with its views of public policy. A restriction inserted in a grant of public lands to a municipality which prohibited the grantee from selling or leasing to a private corporation the right to sell or sublet water or electric energy supplied by the facilities constructed on such land was held valid."

Section 3: Admission of New States to Union; Property of United States - Constitutions - VLEX 295812

 

[Camp]

Why do RWNJs want public land to be taken away from ALL Americans and given to only a few to make a profit on?

Why would any TRUE American want an end to our National Park System?

Why do you want to rape and pave the entire country, leaving nothing for Americans to enjoy and nothing for your children?

WTF is WRONG with you?

what do you need it for?

Income to help preserve and maintain our investment.

 

[jc456]

who owns the rail in the country?