Tell Me Those Who Call Themselves Conservative.

[rdean]

Yes, from the government to the rightful owners of the wealth.

I love the way Republican leaders get their base to do their dirty work. Nothing like working against your own self interest.

Now, since I'm poor, and find it unethical that I am the recipient of stolen money and therefore have refused it on MANY occasions by not taking obviously redistributionist exemptions, I'm working against my own self interest? Maybe. But my conscience is clean, and my integrity is still intact.

What? You don't think conservatives can be poor?

Poor is not a badge of honor. Neither is stupid.

 

[Big Fitz]

I love the way Republican leaders get their base to do their dirty work. Nothing like working against your own self interest.

Now, since I'm poor, and find it unethical that I am the recipient of stolen money and therefore have refused it on MANY occasions by not taking obviously redistributionist exemptions, I'm working against my own self interest? Maybe. But my conscience is clean, and my integrity is still intact.

What? You don't think conservatives can be poor?

Poor is not a badge of honor. Neither is stupid.

Never said it was. But charity from the unwilling by dint of government is still thievery. Implied Morality doesn't change that. Warm fuzzies in your heart doesn't change the fact you used taxation to steal from your neighbors for your personal or someone else's undeserved benefit through greed and mendacious lack of character.

 

[blu]

All of it.

We are currently paying the lowest taxes in 40 or 50 years.

We have two unpaid wars going on. One started by Bin Laden, the other one by the Republicans. War is expensive.

Eliminate the EPA? So dirty air and dirty water are "good"? You believe in "voluntary compliance"? Let's end speed limits, find out how well that works, and while you are at it, how about you buy a car that has no safety regulations. Would you feel good about putting you family in it and driving at 90 mph?

And while we are at it. Let's just eliminate education all together. We need to spread the stupid. One political party isn't enough. Let's make everyone stupid.

What the hell is wrong with you people? Seriously? You're all crazy.

we should have never went to war except in afgh, and if it was executed properly we would have been out already. fuck the epa they cause more problems than help people. and the dept of education is a joke. compare the education level of people before it and after it, and look at how shitty our education systems are. we are way down on the list of educated countries and 6th graders in other countries could beat out our high school graduates.

 

[blu]

I love the way Republican leaders get their base to do their dirty work. Nothing like working against your own self interest.

how is giving back stolen money against my self interest?

Yea, money stolen from the workers and the country. You must be one of those that feel companies should have "citizens" rights.

stolen from the workers? it was stolen from the people who paid the taxes

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I love the way Republican leaders get their base to do their dirty work. Nothing like working against your own self interest.

how is giving back stolen money against my self interest?

Yea, money stolen from the workers and the country. You must be one of those that feel companies should have "citizens" rights.

If the workers weren't being fairly compensated they wouldn't work there, and I'm sorry the "country's money?" The only institution capable of stealing from the country as a whole is the government. Private businesses do not claim the right to tax anyone they want.

 

[momonkey]

And don't give me that Tea Party crap either. That's a good thing but there needs to be unity behind liberty-minded candidates too.


Are you serious?

Do you really expect Democrats to stop now that they are so close to their dream of enslaving the entire nation with unsustainable debt and oppressive taxes?


The only opposition to continued record spending, deficits, insolvency and ever increasing taxes is the Tea Party movement.

Join with Americans. Sign on Now.

 

[momonkey]

What is the conservative plan?

I have asked the same question hundreds of times to dozens of members and have yet to get a response. They are not programed to communicate that way. It is clear that the only plan is to obstruct any legislation in hopes of making a dem congress look ineffective...and to attack Obama for the same reason.

It is a truth they cannot brag about.

I believe that the conservatives think thier efforts to dumb down the public have succeeded. They miscalculate as usual. Christ...many of these dimwits are still trying to run on Obamas birth cirtificate. When we are facing huge problems like the financial crisis and now this oil spill most americans are breathing better knowing the CrazyChristianFundimentalists are not in charge. And that goes for alot of thier own kind.

They do not do well in crisis. Thier strong suit is creating chaos..not repairing it.

I've read literally thousands of posts on numerous public message boards over the past couple years, but this one is clearly one of the top five stupidest posts I've come across.



"It is clear that the only plan is to obstruct any legislation in hopes of making a dem congress look ineffective...and to attack Obama for the same reason."



Republicans cannot go to the rest room without first raising their hand and getting a pass from Pelosi. So what would you have them do?

In case you've been living in an evil parallel universe without Internet, the bank and auto bailouts along with the "stimulus" pork package and Obamacare were clearly opposed by the American people. The reason Democrats had to twist so many arms and offer so many bribes to get Obamacare passed is because many Democrats knew they were committing political suicide by backing it (see Bart Stupak).



"I believe that the conservatives think thier efforts to dumb down the public have succeeded."


Conservatives run America's failed public school system?

That would be the leftist NEA.

And who ended the DC school voucher system?

Gotta make all those poor minority students equally poorly educated while the Obama girls go to a private academy?

Classic limousine liberalism!



"When we are facing huge problems like the financial crisis and now this oil spill most americans are breathing better knowing the CrazyChristianFundimentalists are not in charge."


Crisis?

The only crisis we have is a federal government that promotes and exaggerates one issue after another as a crisis that can only be contained through government intrusion and nationalization of private sector enterprises.




I would breathe better knowing the same people who gave a pass to BP on safety standards in 2009 were not running around blaming the people who bought them off with campaign contributions for their own corruption.



"The decision by the department's Minerals Management Service (MMS) to give BP's lease at Deepwater Horizon a "categorical exclusion" from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on April 6, 2009 -- and BP's lobbying efforts just 11 days before the explosion to expand those exemptions -- show that neither federal regulators nor the company anticipated an accident of the scale of the one unfolding in the gulf."

washingtonpost.com


BP: Recipients | OpenSecrets



I'd rather have the Christian Fundamentalists overseeing regulation of oil rigs.

 

[sweetie]

lol!..

..as one wag put it, "..another thread where a bunch of stooooooopid fuck republicrat cheerleaders (who don't even know how 'a dollar' originates) argue about political issues involving illion$ of 'dollars!'"

..shaddup, republicrats!

...the rest of you, have a good day!..

 

[blastoff]

Ban the Queers and Support Israel No Matter What!

Now there's a good start.

 

[rdean]

how is giving back stolen money against my self interest?

Yea, money stolen from the workers and the country. You must be one of those that feel companies should have "citizens" rights.

stolen from the workers? it was stolen from the people who paid the taxes

When you spell out what's happening, it tends to stop discussion with right wingers:

In the 50s and 60s, the tax rate was 75 to 90% and the rich still drove Ferraris and had private jets and lived in mansions. AND, the CEO averaged 30 times the pay of regular workers. To get more money, they grew the company.

Look what goes on today. CEOs get 300 to 400 times the salary of the average worker. And are they "growing the company"? Fuck no. They are sending the jobs overseas so they can make a killing over the next year. They are laying people off. They are raping the workers, squeezing them for every cent.

Tax breaks to people who move company headquarters to the Cayman Islands or Switzerland to avoid paying taxes?

These companies are raping this nation, screwing it right up the ass and Republicans/conservatives are saying, "It's not hard enough, give me more".

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Just win baby! Vote out all Socialists/Progressives & Neocons. That will be the first big step in bringing sanity back to our Government. The Socialists/Progressives & Neocons are completely out of control. They've sunk so many future generations. Lets hope the people understand this and rise up in coming elections. Make 2010 count people.

 

[Big Fitz]

Yea, money stolen from the workers and the country. You must be one of those that feel companies should have "citizens" rights.

stolen from the workers? it was stolen from the people who paid the taxes

When you spell out what's happening, it tends to stop discussion with right wingers:

In the 50s and 60s, the tax rate was 75 to 90% and the rich still drove Ferraris and had private jets and lived in mansions. AND, the CEO averaged 30 times the pay of regular workers. To get more money, they grew the company.

Look what goes on today. CEOs get 300 to 400 times the salary of the average worker. And are they "growing the company"? Fuck no. They are sending the jobs overseas so they can make a killing over the next year. They are laying people off. They are raping the workers, squeezing them for every cent.

Tax breaks to people who move company headquarters to the Cayman Islands or Switzerland to avoid paying taxes?

These companies are raping this nation, screwing it right up the ass and Republicans/conservatives are saying, "It's not hard enough, give me more".

You need to get out of FDR Depression thinking.

Capital and people are mobile now. They don't have to put up with your thievery anymore. Only those who can't flee (the poor and middle class) are stuck with it while the rich can leave at will and continue the lifestyle they EARNED. You can't imprison them and expect them to produce for you like a goose that lays the golden egg. They can leave or they can shut down and live off their wealth and then the poor get nothing and you tax the middle class to oblivion. Like what's happening now.

You keep thinking that they don't deserve what they earned and that those who don't work do.

 

[nraforlife]

I'm not Oscar, I'm Paul.

And I'm not a GM Member...I do however believe that gays should have the right to contract fully into marriage rights as much as heteros do though.

Any fag can get married........to a person of the opposite sex. They just ain't gonna get special rights by bending all of society to their filthy idea that two men buttfucking or two wymen carpet munching constitutes a 'marriage'

 

[Big Fitz]

Yea, money stolen from the workers and the country. You must be one of those that feel companies should have "citizens" rights.

stolen from the workers? it was stolen from the people who paid the taxes

When you spell out what's happening, it tends to stop discussion with right wingers:

In the 50s and 60s, the tax rate was 75 to 90% and the rich still drove Ferraris and had private jets and lived in mansions. AND, the CEO averaged 30 times the pay of regular workers. To get more money, they grew the company.

Look what goes on today. CEOs get 300 to 400 times the salary of the average worker. And are they "growing the company"? Fuck no. They are sending the jobs overseas so they can make a killing over the next year. They are laying people off. They are raping the workers, squeezing them for every cent.

Tax breaks to people who move company headquarters to the Cayman Islands or Switzerland to avoid paying taxes?

These companies are raping this nation, screwing it right up the ass and Republicans/conservatives are saying, "It's not hard enough, give me more".

Hey Rdean.

I have a 10 million dollar paycheck for you right here to run my theoretical company. Yours for the taking. Do you deserve it? Or are you still running like hell to get away from the truth of your answer?

Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Rdean. You need to make some changes. Honesty would be a good start. An honest declaration like "I'm liberal only when it's someone else who's paying for what I want" would be a good start. Or 'My professed ethics and expressed ethics are incongruous with each other."

Just helping you out.

 

[HUGGY]

What is the conservative plan?

I have asked the same question hundreds of times to dozens of members and have yet to get a response. They are not programed to communicate that way. It is clear that the only plan is to obstruct any legislation in hopes of making a dem congress look ineffective...and to attack Obama for the same reason.

It is a truth they cannot brag about.

I believe that the conservatives think thier efforts to dumb down the public have succeeded. They miscalculate as usual. Christ...many of these dimwits are still trying to run on Obamas birth cirtificate. When we are facing huge problems like the financial crisis and now this oil spill most americans are breathing better knowing the CrazyChristianFundimentalists are not in charge. And that goes for alot of thier own kind.

They do not do well in crisis. Thier strong suit is creating chaos..not repairing it.

I've read literally thousands of posts on numerous public message boards over the past couple years, but this one is clearly one of the top five stupidest posts I've come across.



"It is clear that the only plan is to obstruct any legislation in hopes of making a dem congress look ineffective...and to attack Obama for the same reason."



Republicans cannot go to the rest room without first raising their hand and getting a pass from Pelosi. So what would you have them do? Not in the Minniapolis airport anyway

In case you've been living in an evil parallel universe without Internet, the bank and auto bailouts along with the "stimulus" pork package and Obamacare were clearly opposed by the American people. The American people are not in charge of the day to day operations of the government..BTW Chevrolet sales up 40% We are making a profit on that investment.The reason Democrats had to twist so many arms and offer so many bribes to get Obamacare passed is because many Democrats knew they were committing political suicide by backing it (see Bart Stupak). The fight wasn't with the public ..it was with the billions the HMO's were spending in the media to fight reform


"I believe that the conservatives think thier efforts to dumb down the public have succeeded."


Conservatives run America's failed public school system?

That would be the leftist NEA.

The "conservatives" have been trying to destroy the education of all who are not spawned by the rich for over thirty years

And who ended the DC school voucher system?

Gotta make all those poor minority students equally poorly educated while the Obama girls go to a private academy?

Classic limousine liberalism!



"When we are facing huge problems like the financial crisis and now this oil spill most americans are breathing better knowing the CrazyChristianFundimentalists are not in charge."


Crisis? Oh...you missed that? Try to pay attention

The only crisis we have is a federal government that promotes and exaggerates one issue after another as a crisis that can only be contained through government intrusion and nationalization of private sector enterprises.




I would breathe better knowing the same people who gave a pass to BP on safety standards in 2009 were not running around blaming the people who bought them off with campaign contributions for their own corruption. So you are one of those morons that think a $77,000 dollar combined donation from the employees of BP threw a $750 million dollar campaigne?



"The decision by the department's Minerals Management Service (MMS) to give BP's lease at Deepwater Horizon a "categorical exclusion" from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on April 6, 2009 -- and BP's lobbying efforts just 11 days before the explosion to expand those exemptions -- show that neither federal regulators nor the company anticipated an accident of the scale of the one unfolding in the gulf."When do you think they started planning and more importantly drilling at the spill site? You really are a stupid monkey

washingtonpost.com


BP: Recipients | OpenSecrets



I'd rather have the Christian Fundamentalists overseeing regulation of oil rigs.

I would rather see all Christian Fundimentalists executed for treason.

 

[momonkey]

What is the conservative plan?

I have asked the same question hundreds of times to dozens of members and have yet to get a response. They are not programed to communicate that way. It is clear that the only plan is to obstruct any legislation in hopes of making a dem congress look ineffective...and to attack Obama for the same reason.

It is a truth they cannot brag about.

I believe that the conservatives think thier efforts to dumb down the public have succeeded. They miscalculate as usual. Christ...many of these dimwits are still trying to run on Obamas birth cirtificate. When we are facing huge problems like the financial crisis and now this oil spill most americans are breathing better knowing the CrazyChristianFundimentalists are not in charge. And that goes for alot of thier own kind.

They do not do well in crisis. Thier strong suit is creating chaos..not repairing it.

I've read literally thousands of posts on numerous public message boards over the past couple years, but this one is clearly one of the top five stupidest posts I've come across.



"It is clear that the only plan is to obstruct any legislation in hopes of making a dem congress look ineffective...and to attack Obama for the same reason."



Republicans cannot go to the rest room without first raising their hand and getting a pass from Pelosi. So what would you have them do? Not in the Minniapolis airport anyway

In case you've been living in an evil parallel universe without Internet, the bank and auto bailouts along with the "stimulus" pork package and Obamacare were clearly opposed by the American people. The American people are not in charge of the day to day operations of the government..BTW Chevrolet sales up 40% We are making a profit on that investment.The reason Democrats had to twist so many arms and offer so many bribes to get Obamacare passed is because many Democrats knew they were committing political suicide by backing it (see Bart Stupak). The fight wasn't with the public ..it was with the billions the HMO's were spending in the media to fight reform


"I believe that the conservatives think thier efforts to dumb down the public have succeeded."


Conservatives run America's failed public school system?

That would be the leftist NEA.

The "conservatives" have been trying to destroy the education of all who are not spawned by the rich for over thirty years

And who ended the DC school voucher system?

Gotta make all those poor minority students equally poorly educated while the Obama girls go to a private academy?

Classic limousine liberalism!



"When we are facing huge problems like the financial crisis and now this oil spill most americans are breathing better knowing the CrazyChristianFundimentalists are not in charge."


Crisis? Oh...you missed that? Try to pay attention

The only crisis we have is a federal government that promotes and exaggerates one issue after another as a crisis that can only be contained through government intrusion and nationalization of private sector enterprises.




I would breathe better knowing the same people who gave a pass to BP on safety standards in 2009 were not running around blaming the people who bought them off with campaign contributions for their own corruption. So you are one of those morons that think a $77,000 dollar combined donation from the employees of BP threw a $750 million dollar campaigne?



"The decision by the department's Minerals Management Service (MMS) to give BP's lease at Deepwater Horizon a "categorical exclusion" from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on April 6, 2009 -- and BP's lobbying efforts just 11 days before the explosion to expand those exemptions -- show that neither federal regulators nor the company anticipated an accident of the scale of the one unfolding in the gulf."When do you think they started planning and more importantly drilling at the spill site? You really are a stupid monkey

washingtonpost.com


BP: Recipients | OpenSecrets



I'd rather have the Christian Fundamentalists overseeing regulation of oil rigs.

I would rather see all Christian Fundimentalists executed for treason.

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