Teenager and 20 year old shot Friday night....in Britain, where they have gun control...

[2aguy]

Yep....when you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have them...as Britain keeps finding out....

Murder probe launched after teenage boy shot dead in east London

A murder investigation has been launched after a teenage boy was shot dead in east London.

Scotland Yard said a boy in his “mid-teens” was killed and another man in his early 20s was injured after the pair were shot in Newham on Friday night.

The boy was pronounced dead at the scene after suffering a gunshot wound, police said. The other victim is not thought to have suffered life-threatening injuries, and it is not yet clear whether the two shootings are linked.

Terrified witnesses told how they heard gunshots being fired just before 11pm before police descended on the scene in North Woolwich.

One said: "I went to the area to get some Chinese. Whilst I was there I heard a couple of shots, sudden bangs.

"Suddenly there was a tonne of police cars and squad cars in the area, lots of blue lights. Spoke to my former neighbour, she said she heard the same thing as me... sounded like gun shots."

 

[JakeStarkey]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

so all those people were shot with legally acquired weapons?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

He scours the net for gun crime abroad and totally ignores the slaughter in his own back yard.

 

[miketx]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

so all those people were shot with legally acquired weapons?

He was no idea, he just posts what CNN tells him.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

He scours the net for gun crime abroad and totally ignores the slaughter in his own back yard.

No one has ever been slaughtered in my back yard

 

[bodecea]

Yep....when you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have them...as Britain keeps finding out....

Murder probe launched after teenage boy shot dead in east London

A murder investigation has been launched after a teenage boy was shot dead in east London.

Scotland Yard said a boy in his “mid-teens” was killed and another man in his early 20s was injured after the pair were shot in Newham on Friday night.

The boy was pronounced dead at the scene after suffering a gunshot wound, police said. The other victim is not thought to have suffered life-threatening injuries, and it is not yet clear whether the two shootings are linked.

Terrified witnesses told how they heard gunshots being fired just before 11pm before police descended on the scene in North Woolwich.

One said: "I went to the area to get some Chinese. Whilst I was there I heard a couple of shots, sudden bangs.

"Suddenly there was a tonne of police cars and squad cars in the area, lots of blue lights. Spoke to my former neighbour, she said she heard the same thing as me... sounded like gun shots."

 

[The VOR]

Yep....when you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have them...as Britain keeps finding out....

Murder probe launched after teenage boy shot dead in east London

A murder investigation has been launched after a teenage boy was shot dead in east London.

Scotland Yard said a boy in his “mid-teens” was killed and another man in his early 20s was injured after the pair were shot in Newham on Friday night.

The boy was pronounced dead at the scene after suffering a gunshot wound, police said. The other victim is not thought to have suffered life-threatening injuries, and it is not yet clear whether the two shootings are linked.

Terrified witnesses told how they heard gunshots being fired just before 11pm before police descended on the scene in North Woolwich.

One said: "I went to the area to get some Chinese. Whilst I was there I heard a couple of shots, sudden bangs.

"Suddenly there was a tonne of police cars and squad cars in the area, lots of blue lights. Spoke to my former neighbour, she said she heard the same thing as me... sounded like gun shots."

You're a broken record. Give it a break gun boy.

 

[westwall]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

He scours the net for gun crime abroad and totally ignores the slaughter in his own back yard.

As do you and yours. The reality is if you compare the USA with Europe....ALL of Europe we actually have less overall crime, less violent crime, and the gun murder rate for Europe is rising as you get ever more third world refugees into your country who bring their culture and their violent ways with them. Think about this, two mass shootings in Europe, Norway and Paris, killed more people than all of our mass shootings COMBINED over the last 25 years.

So no, your gun control doesn't seem to work too well..

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

He scours the net for gun crime abroad and totally ignores the slaughter in his own back yard.

As do you and yours. The reality is if you compare the USA with Europe....ALL of Europe we actually have less overall crime, less violent crime, and the gun murder rate for Europe is rising as you get ever more third world refugees into your country who bring their culture and their violent ways with them. Think about this, two mass shootings in Europe, Norway and Paris, killed more people than all of our mass shootings COMBINED over the last 25 years.

So no, your gun control doesn't seem to work too well..

You can stick your gun nut lies up your arse you sad fuck. None of it is true. You also forget in your racist diatribe that the Norwegian killer was actually a norwegian.
Its a European country you thick inbred fucker.

Why dont you go and shoot some squirrels you piece of shit.

 

[JakeStarkey]

westwall, quit deflecting. We are talking about the UK, where the per capita gun violence there is about 1 to 12 for here. Just stop the nonsense.

Gun control in UK works extremely well compared to here.

 

[westwall]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

He scours the net for gun crime abroad and totally ignores the slaughter in his own back yard.

As do you and yours. The reality is if you compare the USA with Europe....ALL of Europe we actually have less overall crime, less violent crime, and the gun murder rate for Europe is rising as you get ever more third world refugees into your country who bring their culture and their violent ways with them. Think about this, two mass shootings in Europe, Norway and Paris, killed more people than all of our mass shootings COMBINED over the last 25 years.

So no, your gun control doesn't seem to work too well..

You can stick your gun nut lies up your arse you sad fuck. None of it is true. You also forget in your racist diatribe that the Norwegian killer was actually a norwegian.
Its a European country you thick inbred fucker.

Why dont you go and shoot some squirrels you piece of shit.

All of it is true, you're just too invested in your sad beliefs to actually look it up. Here, let me help you...

UK is violent crime capital of Europe

UK is violent crime capital of Europe


And then, just last year that astonishingly high crime rate jumped even higher!

Violent crime jumps 27 per cent in new figures released by the Office for National Statistics
Violent crime jumps 27 per cent in new figures released by the Office for National Statistics

 

[westwall]

westwall, quit deflecting. We are talking about the UK, where the per capita gun violence there is about 1 to 12 for here. Just stop the nonsense.

Gun control in UK works extremely well compared to here.

Only because they have fewer people and they never had a huge influx of third world people from everywhere bringing their violent ways with them. Now though, they are beginning to get a whiff of what we have had to deal with. Take a gander at the post above.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Oh, my. The "few people" are factored into the per capita populations affected by gun violence.

You can't get around the 1 to 12 trade off, no matter how hard you try.

2aguy always could not or would not understand the numbers. Tough.

 

[Care4all]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

so all those people were shot with legally acquired weapons?

Doesn't matter...illegal guns are much easier to get because of guns over alll being legal...

 

[2aguy]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

And what you refuse to understand....either because you are stupid...or, well, you are stupid.......is that the Uk banned guns in 1996.....so in order for your post to be intelligent...you would have to show that the level of gun crime in the Uk was higher before the ban...and decreased after the ban......and you can't....the level of gun crime in Britain before the ban was low.....very low.....they then banned guns and then the gun crime rate spiked...for years after the ban...then it returned to the same level it was at before the ban...

Which makes your post stupid......

Then....decades of social welfare has created young males raised without fathers.....and they have been importing violent people from the 3rd world....

And what has happened to their gun crime rate....it has gone up.....despite the ban, and the fact that they are an island....

Homicides in England and Wales up 14%

The police-recorded crime figures include a 9% rise in knife crime and a 4% rise in gun crime, which are thought to reflect a rise in gang violence largely in London and Manchester.

The rise in gun crime is the first recorded for eight years and includes a 10% rise in London.

The official statisticians say that a 36% rise in sexual offences, including the highest number of rapes since 2003 – at 33,341 – reflect a greater willingness of victims to come forward to report such crimes rather than a real surge in attacks.

So your post is stupid....it is not based in facts or the truth or the reality of guns in Britain....

And guns are flooding Britain....

from 2008

Firearms: cheap, easy to get and on a street near you

Most buyers are involved with drug dealing, the source said. Some are used to rob other dealers in crimes that go unreported, others are used as protection while a deal is under way. "Someone will have a tool and there is always one guy in a posse willing to use it. They will have one guy who doesn't give a fuck.

"Everyone wants to be a gangster now, mainly the kids. You have five or six in a little crew and one of them will be carrying. They want handguns - shotguns are too big and bulky. The sawn-off doesn't look so good but use a machine gun and you get known as a heavy guy. They have them just to be a chap on the street, to pose. Some of them walk around all day with a .38. It's 16-year-olds at it and it's getting like America, silly as it sounds."

In terms of nationalities, the influx of eastern European criminals has changed the balance of power. "Who's using the guns? The [Jamaican] Yardies' value for life was so minimal that they thought nothing of killing people," said the source. "We don't like them, they have no moral code. But it's the Russians and the Polish and Albanians around now. They are bullies. They want to take over the flesh business. The Russians are cold-hearted fuckers. What they have been doing is following the card boys [who put cards advertising prostitutes in phone booths in central London] and then taking the girls hostage, armed if need be."

And more recently....more kids are getting involved with guns in Britain...an island nation that banned them....

Hundreds of youngsters arrested for suspected gun crimes in last three years

CHILDREN as young as 10 were among hundreds of youngsters arrested for suspected gun crimes in the last three years, new figures have revealed.

And more....

Rising number of guns being smuggled into UK, Metropolitan police say

More guns are being seized in cities across Britain as the number of firearms being smuggled into the country increases, Britain’s most senior police officer has said.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, the Metropolitan police commissioner, told a hearing at London’s City Hall that a rise in gun crime in the capital was being put down to an increase in the number of weapons coming into the country.

The Met seized a “worrying” record number of weapons in 2015, including semiautomatic guns, Hogan-Howe said.

“We’ve seized more firearms than ever before,” he said. “In the previous year [2015] we’ve seized 714 guns – that’s around two per day. In a city this size, that’s a worrying number. This is an increase on previous years. Some of them are semiautomatic weapons, too.

“If you look around the big cities of the country, they are seeing a similar profile. Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds, Liverpool – they are seeing big rises as well.”

 

[2aguy]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

He scours the net for gun crime abroad and totally ignores the slaughter in his own back yard.

Nope...asswipe.....I have put out the solution....lock up repeat gun offenders and criminals using guns for crime for 30 years...do that and our gun crime rate in democrat controlled voting districts drops....over night.......

 

[2aguy]

The only little problem AS ALWAYS with jimbo's OP is that in America where we have so many states with incredibly loose laws on guns, 128 people were shot in the same time.

Since it is about 1/5 per capita ratio, the OP does not tell you that based on his single incident in the UK that you are more than 12 TIMES LIKELY to get shot here than there.

He scours the net for gun crime abroad and totally ignores the slaughter in his own back yard.

As do you and yours. The reality is if you compare the USA with Europe....ALL of Europe we actually have less overall crime, less violent crime, and the gun murder rate for Europe is rising as you get ever more third world refugees into your country who bring their culture and their violent ways with them. Think about this, two mass shootings in Europe, Norway and Paris, killed more people than all of our mass shootings COMBINED over the last 25 years.

So no, your gun control doesn't seem to work too well..

and the fact is Britain is way more violent than the U.S......as reported in the British press......

 

[2aguy]

westwall, quit deflecting. We are talking about the UK, where the per capita gun violence there is about 1 to 12 for here. Just stop the nonsense.

Gun control in UK works extremely well compared to here.

No...it doesn't...criminals get the guns they want and need...the difference....for a long time, is that British criminals wouldn't use those guns to actually murder people....that is changing......they are killing rather than wounding or just intimidating....decades of single teenage mothers raising young males without fathers....and importing violent immigrants is changing their criminal culture, turning it more violent and more prone to commit murder....as my stats show....

 

[2aguy]

And the other gun control wonder...Australia....also seeing huge increases in gun crime...another island nation, which banned and confiscated guns...Melbourne, Australia is now nicknamed, the "City of the Gun" because of the gun crime there...after they banned guns....

These countries are where the United States was just before the 1960s.......crime was fairly non violent and then it turned really bad......until we started letting people carry guns for self defense...and the gun murder rate went down 49%.....without banning guns....and the violent crime rate went down 75%...without banning guns......unlike Britain and Australia......where they are soon going to realize what a disarmed society is going to face with armed criminals...who don't mind killing victims...