Take Action Against Syria and Iran - Now

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  1. preemptingyou03
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    Well, not now.

    Soon.

    Very soon.

    We cannot succeed in Iraq with the Baathists in Syria and the mullahs in Iran. We need to take action against these two terrorist sponsors soon.

    Bush must start talking about these states... beating the drums, if you will.

    Take this quote for example:

    "Iraq is not the war. And the war is a regional war; and we cannot be successful in Iraq if we only do Iraq alone. And I think that the terror countries bordering Iraq—namely, Iran and Syria—know that. I think that Saddam's plan was to disappear into Syria, as Osama bin Laden disappeared into Iran ... in the middle of the Afghan war. I think that the Iranians and the Syrians fully intend to do everything in their power to destabilize our efforts in Iraq once the war is over and once we're in stable positions on the ground."

    That was Michael Ledeen, a think tanker of Richard Perle. He was wrong about Saddam going to Syria but he's right that they are trying to destabilize our efforts.

    Syria and Iran are at war with us. They are at war with us in Iraq. We need to take action against both states... one right after the other.

    Iran

    - Funding al-Sadr
    - Has WMD
    - Has nuclear program
    - Funds Hezbollah
    - Funds Hamas
    - Funds Islamic Jihad
    - Dictatorship
    - Is giving shelter to al-Qaeda (Said al-Adel)

    Syria

    - Probably has WMD
    - Funds Hezbollah
    - Funds Hamas
    - Funds Islamic Jihad
    - Dictatorship

    The next time there's a major terrorist attack in Iraq by a Syrian or Iranian backed terrorist, we must take action against them immediantly. To succeed in Iraq.

    Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan would be four democratic regimes all in a row.
     
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    I wouldn't mind going now.:tank:
     
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    I say Nuke them both !!:blowup:
     
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    What do you propose we do? we do happen to have alot of troops deployed already. I know we could probably do it but it would take alot of planning. I am just not as sure its all as feasible as it sound exactly at this moment. Maybe after we reduce some troops in North Korea and Germany.
     
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    Uhhh...Yeah...Right. Invade Syria and Iran which have viable and essentially modern militaries, unlike Iraq which was essentially destroyed in Guf War I and only marginally rebuilt prior to Dubbyuh's dirty little war. Invade Syria and Iran when our forces are already stretched thin and are barely able to maintain even a semblance of control in Iraq.

    Syria and Iran were begining to lean towards moderation in their politics until Dubbyuh, dangerous waterhead that he is, started babbling about his "Axis of Evil". Now, Iran is leaning back towards radical Islam and Syria is being backed into a corner. Not very effing bright on the part of Dubbyuh and his neo-con cabal...But we really shouldn't expect much else from them.
     
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    Originally posted by Bully
    Not sure what planet you're residing in Bully, but Iran has a history pre-dating 9/11 of letting the students protest, then rounding them up, for the most part not being heard of again. Kind of reminds me of China awhile back.

    Syria? Hmmm, implicated in the NK train explosion, NOW I 'SUPPOSE' IT'S POSSIBLE THE SYRIANS WERE THERE ON VACATION, BUT I DOUBT IT:

    A military source familiar with Korean Peninsula
    affairs revealed on 6 May that Syrian technicians were
    killed in a train explosion incident that occurred on
    22 April in Yongch'on in the northwestern part of the
    DPRK and that the damage was especially serious in
    that section of the train where the Syrians were
    aboard, along with large equipment. The same source
    noted that although the contents of the equipment are
    unknown, DPRK military-related personnel wearing
    protective suits arrived on the scene immediately
    after the explosion and removed debris only from that
    section of the train where the Syrian group had been
    aboard. Consequently, there is a strong likelihood
    that the accident occurred when military materials
    were being secretly transported between the DPRK and
    Syria.

    According to the same source, the technicians aboard
    the train had been sent from the Syrian technical
    research center called Centre d'Etudes et de Recherche
    Scientific (CERS). Although CERS was established to
    promote science and technology development, it is
    suspected of playing a major role in Syria's weapons
    of mass destruction development program.

    The technicians and the cargo were reportedly aboard
    the same section of the train. The same source said it
    was uncertain whether the cargo was the source of the
    explosion or whether it exploded after being set off
    by an explosion on another section of the train. The
    source then said, "The damage to that section of the
    train was the most serious," noting that nearly 10
    Syrians and accompanying North Koreans were killed.

    The bodies of the Syrians were carried onto and
    transported home on 1 May by a Syrian aircraft, which
    had come to Pyongyang to deliver aid supplies.

    Syrian and DPRK medical and military personnel who
    were involved in transporting [the Syrians and other
    victims] were also reportedly wearing protective suits
    similar to those worn by the DPRK military personnel
    who arrived on the scene immediately after the
    accident.

    The same source said, "The action taken by Syria and
    the DPRK indicates that the cargo was top secret
    matter, which the two countries did not want to bring
    out into the open." With regard to the DPRK and Syria,
    the United States and other countries have indicated
    concern that the two countries are continuing to
    cooperate in the development of Syria's "Scud-D"
    missiles, as well as chemical and biological weapons.

    Concerning the cause of the explosion incident, the
    DPRK has explained that a train carrying fertilizer
    containing ammonium nitrate and a railroad tank
    carrying petroleum were being shunted, and, in the
    process, came into contact with electrical wires, due
    to carelessness.


    [Description of Source: Tokyo Sankei Shimbun (Internet
    version-WWW) -- Internet version of daily newspaper
    published by Fuji Sankei Communications Group]
     
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    I have to agree with Bully on this one, calling them the axis of evil wasn't exactly the best way to keep the peace. I agree they may not be the most peaceful of countries, but neither are we anymore. They've said it a million times on every news station that we're going to be inhabiting iraq for a LONG time, easily five years. We're not goin to pull troops from north korea or other hot spots, so bully was right. Also, to say lets invade every country we SUSPECT of having ties to terrorist networks and WMD we'd be invading the entire middle east. We can't go around invading everyone, especially without finishing afghanistan and iraq. Two wars is enough thank you...
     
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    I seriously have to question the sanity of anyone who think the extremists in Syria and Iran are heading toward moderation. The government in Iran would never let a moderate voice in. The people on the other hand are very reasonable. When reporters asked some of the citizens what they thought of Bush's axis of evil comments, they said he was right because the Iranian government is evil.
     
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    posted by the Worried One


    Calling them the Axis of Evil was exactly right, too bad the administration seems to have lost that focus. WE did not become less than peaceful until 9/11, about 15 years late in responding, but once that happened there could be no mistake that WE WERE responding.

    Wake up you doofus's. There are people who mean to annihilate us. Spend a minute or two talking to them, go ahead, if they seem like they really want to converse, then go at it full throttle. If not...let us use what we have, they theirs.
     
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    It doesn't matter, they didn't invade us, they didn't do anything! For us to invade them just because we don't like their government is insane! Let us invade Cuba, Iran, Syria, North Korea, China, shit, lets just say 3/4 of the globe...we cannot just go into a country because they aren't for us, we need real reasons, and no more of this, WMD crap that we found not to be true in Iraq!

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