Taiwan/China Games or Practice?

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  1. Annie
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    Taiwan is uneasy:


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    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...716&e=13&u=/nm/20040815/ts_nm/taiwan_china_dc

     
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    Jeeze,

    Wasn't it you who jumped all over my ass when I suggested that China might use US over-extension in the mid-east as an opportunity to reclaim Tiawan? Wern't you on the bandwagon of people saying this was an abserd contention and that China would never even think about such a thing?

    Wade.
     
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    I do not think she was stating or implying anything; just posting an article for discussion.

    Are you feeling guilty about something?
     
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    :cry: :baby:

    Really, I haven't bothered to reply to you several times, this is the last one.
     
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    It's not your facts and knowledge we abhor, wade;It's your erroneous weak-kneed conclusions we can't stand. According to you, we should lay down and die. That's just foolhardy.
     
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    Not hardly. We should however be smart about how and where we take action. Most of you people do not think, you just mimic the bull shit you are told by your right-wing heros. You make no effort to try to understand the other side, no matter what it is - your side is right and the other side does not matter. But do you understand how foolish it is not to study and understand your enemy?

    You should seek as much knowlege as possible about a situation BEFORE MAKING UP YOUR MIND ABOUT IT!

    I enjoy discussions. I use this board to make me think about the topics at hand from a different perspective, and often take positions that are not the same as my actual real life position because I want to see what arguments and info you guys will provide. But you don't do your part. You just babble tripe and throw insults rather than making arguments of substance.

    I chose this board because it is not like my normal usenet discussion forums, which are dominated by acadamicians and scientists. I had hoped to get some new and fresh perspectives - but all you people seem to do is regurgitate what can be had on FOX news. I don't think you people actually read books. It is getting very old very fast.

    I had hoped you would give me some good right-wing arguments to use in predominatly left-wing discussions - but alas, it appears it is not going to happen.

    Wade.
     
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    Blah. blah. The fact remains, the war on terror is real. It is not a practice in deception as the rabid left portrays.

    I understand why the tyrants of the islamic world have turned a generation of their youth into hate machines. They see that their societies are weakened by their own tyrannical ways. Economically they fail, because individuals are not empowered to bring their gifts to the world at large. They see that free societies have a strength (much like the point to point nature of computer and neural networks) that will always make them stronger and better than top down autocracy. Instead of giving their people freedom, empowering them to compete against free societies, they would rather destroy freedom where they find it, and they don't mind turning a generation of their youth into suicide bombers to do it. Their own personal power is worth more to them than the very survival of their people.

    Did you see the thread on how the unemployment rate in Iran will be over 50% for ages 15-29 in the next two years? Do you think this is by accident? This is their jihad army.

    As far as your alleged openmindedness, and intellectuality, I don't see it. You're just another rabid lib. No merit. No conscience. No class. Your in full bore reality denial mode.
     
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    Let me first say however that I agree Islamic rule is backwards and cannot compete with the west. As I've said before, all large scale organized religion is just a means to subjugate the minds of the masses. Religion is responsible for far more evil than good.

    I think you totally misunderstand the Islamic thinking. Iranian unemployment rates are no conspiracy of the leadership - they are just the natural consequence of a population growing faster than an economy. The same could be said for many nations - just look south.

    Of course you cannot see it - you cannot see anything that does not fit into your narrow view of the world. Or rather - you won't.

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    Wrong, communist religion basher. Religion has also provided a prosocial structure for peaceful cooperation as well. Considering humanity has never been isolated from religion in a manner to have a decent control group, your spurious assertions are unproveable.
    The leaders know full well that american style free markets and personal ownership would grow their economies. The thing is, THEY DON"T WANT TO GIVE UP THAT AMOUNT OF POWER. Oppressing people is why they become leaders. It's very old school. The eurolibs suffer from the same destructive despotic tendencies.
    You're the rabid, reality-denying ideologue here, Wade. Please wise up, Schnookums.




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    We just completed our own war games (JASEX 04) with another aircraft carrier John C. Stennis (and are now back in port), which basically is a US-Japanese practice of what to do to retake Taiwan from the Chinese.... if the chinese want to try something (which sadly, i think they will,and soon, probably while i'm still here), we will do our best to be ready to rescue the taiwanese from Chinese domination.

    i just hope that our nation's leadership (perhaps worried of the cost and consequences of a non-nuclear war with china) will not abandon the taiwanese to chinese oppression.

    its crazy, but the chinese, in practicing these "Decapitation" strikes, are taking what they learned from the best: the US quick strikes in Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq.
     

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