Taiwan/China Games or Practice?

[rtwngAvngr]

Ummm... I never said I in any way thought that China has any right to Tiawan. That is not the point. The point is that they think they do and have made it clear they intend to take it back - the only ? being when.

Go away Wing - I'm tired of your BS quips. If you're not going to actually debate and you're not even going to try to support your arguments with anything but your own opinions, please stop replying to my posts.

I know your point of view - your just flooding this board with the same crap over and over - Your opinion along with juvinile insults.

Wade.

What you call quips are pearls of wisdom, sveinhund.

We know your point of view also. You can't even be honest. You seek to discourage america. And for that, you are unamericanl. You dress up your handwringing with scientific jargon, but it's still just the same old negativistic lib handwringing. You go away. I was here first.
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[rtwngAvngr]

does the term 'domestic, dependent nations' mean anything?

In some context I'm sure. Please elaborate.

 

[DKSuddeth]

In some context I'm sure. Please elaborate.

in an earlier post you said, "Don't you think it's a bit nationalist, pompous and evil for China to feel they have manifest destiny over taiwan? Or do you save that viewpoint only for things American."

so I responded with the domestic dependent nations remark, as in native american tribes and reservations.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

in an earlier post you said, "Don't you think it's a bit nationalist, pompous and evil for China to feel they have manifest destiny over taiwan? Or do you save that viewpoint only for things American."

so I responded with the domestic dependent nations remark, as in native american tribes and reservations.

So you save that viewpoint only for things American?

 

[DKSuddeth]

So you save that viewpoint only for things American?

is that what you got out of that?

You asked if it was nationalist, pompous, and evil for china to feel they have manifest destiny over taiwan? I'm assuming you do since you asked it as a point of contention to wade. If you DO feel that it is indeed nationalist, pompous, and evil for china would you not feel that same way over america doing that very same thing over the native americans?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

is that what you got out of that?

You asked if it was nationalist, pompous, and evil for china to feel they have manifest destiny over taiwan? I'm assuming you do since you asked it as a point of contention to wade. If you DO feel that it is indeed nationalist, pompous, and evil for china would you not feel that same way over america doing that very same thing over the native americans?

Do you feel that way towards China?

 

[DKSuddeth]

Do you feel that way towards China?

that its nationalist, pompous, and evil? absolutely

now answer mine, do you feel that way about america? at least in this instance?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

that its nationalist, pompous, and evil? absolutely

now answer mine, do you feel that way about america? at least in this instance?

Sorry gotta go. My meatloaf is burning! Hubby is due home any minute now and I get a hard five across the jowls if anything is imperfect!

 

[DKSuddeth]

Sorry gotta go. My meatloaf is burning! Hubby is due home any minute now and I get a hard five across the jowls if anything is imperfect!

:rotflmao:

did anyone else just see a liberal drive-by?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

:rotflmao:

did anyone else just see a liberal drive-by?

But seriously folks. The Native americans did get the short end of the peace pipe. But hey, now they get to run casinos!

 

[wade]

What you call quips are pearls of wisdom, sveinhund.

We know your point of view also. You can't even be honest. You seek to discourage america. And for that, you are unamericanl. You dress up your handwringing with scientific jargon, but it's still just the same old negativistic lib handwringing. You go away. I was here first.
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Hmmm... I've been a member since March 22, about 5 and a half months. You've been a member of this board since Jan. 5th, about 8 months. Over the course of our memberships, this is my 243rd post. But you have made a wopping 5,108 posts.

That's 1.4 posts per day for me vs. 20.6 posts per day for you!

I don't have the kind of time you do to devote to this board. I want to discuss and debate these issues with people who are intelligent enough to do so and who are willing to support their positions with facts, not pure opinion bolstered with insults, which is all you ever do. You spam my posts preventing any real dialog from occuring, over and over no matter what the topic, no matter which section of this board they are in.

So please stop replying to my posts.

Wade.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Hmmm... I've been a member since March 22, about 5 and a half months. You've been a member of this board since Jan. 5th, about 8 months. Over the course of our memberships, this is my 243rd post. But you have made a wopping 5,108 posts.

That's 1.4 posts per day for me vs. 20.6 posts per day for you!

I don't have the kind of time you do to devote to this board. I want to discuss and debate these issues with people who are intelligent enough to do so and who are willing to support their positions with facts, not pure opinion bolstered with insults, which is all you ever do. You spam my posts preventing any real dialog from occuring, over and over no matter what the topic, no matter which section of this board they are in.

So please stop replying to my posts.

Wade.

Quit your pissing and moaning. You're just mad that I've determined your agenda to a "t": To render americans apathetic with guilt and historical misinterpretation: To bog us down in past issues. An honest interpretation of history shows that we have done the most good and the least harm worldwide than other empires of equal proportional strength. That's the truth. we're the good guys. So take your "blame america first" crap and encode it with md5 and shove it, hex boy.

 

[Annie]

Hmmm... I've been a member since March 22, about 5 and a half months. You've been a member of this board since Jan. 5th, about 8 months. Over the course of our memberships, this is my 243rd post. But you have made a wopping 5,108 posts.

That's 1.4 posts per day for me vs. 20.6 posts per day for you!

I don't have the kind of time you do to devote to this board. I want to discuss and debate these issues with people who are intelligent enough to do so and who are willing to support their positions with facts, not pure opinion bolstered with insults, which is all you ever do. You spam my posts preventing any real dialog from occuring, over and over no matter what the topic, no matter which section of this board they are in.

So please stop replying to my posts.

Wade.

I don't see where RWA is spamming. If you would like to discuss this in pm, feel free. You cannot however, prevent someone from replying, though you certainly do not have to answer.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Hmmm... I've been a member since March 22, about 5 and a half months. You've been a member of this board since Jan. 5th, about 8 months. Over the course of our memberships, this is my 243rd post. But you have made a wopping 5,108 posts.

That's 1.4 posts per day for me vs. 20.6 posts per day for you!

I don't have the kind of time you do to devote to this board. I want to discuss and debate these issues with people who are intelligent enough to do so and who are willing to support their positions with facts, not pure opinion bolstered with insults, which is all you ever do. You spam my posts preventing any real dialog from occuring, over and over no matter what the topic, no matter which section of this board they are in.

So please stop replying to my posts.

Wade.

there is an ignore feature to this board wade. If you don't want to see someones replies, use that.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

That's 1.4 posts per day for me vs. 20.6 posts per day for you!

More evidence that I'm better than you. and more mature!

 

[wade]

Quit your pissing and moaning. You're just mad that I've determined your agenda to a "t": To render americans apathetic with guilt and historical misinterpretation: To bog us down in past issues. An honest interpretation of history shows that we have done the most good and the least harm worldwide than other empires of equal proportional strength. That's the truth. we're the good guys. So take your "blame america first" crap and encode it with md5 and shove it, hex boy.

I have never said the USA was comparatively not a relatively enlightened society. I agree, more than any nation we have in the past put principals over self-interest. However, that is not much of a standard given that no nation in history except the US has really done so at all.

I simply seek to point out the difference between the cases where the US has acted rightly vs. the cases where the US has not. You wish to pretend that everything and anything the US does is "good", and that is hardly the case. For a short time - mostly during and immeadiately after WWII we practiced the principals which you hold so high. But since then... well I'm still waiting for a single example in foriegn policy where the US did not seek it's own interest first and foremost. You have yet to provide an example (I'm not saying there arn't a few, just that you have not presented one).

So go ahead msg board boy - lets see you try to present an actual argument rather than just spew crap. If you cannot do so, please stop replying to my posts.

Wade.

 

[wade]

I don't see where RWA is spamming. If you would like to discuss this in pm, feel free. You cannot however, prevent someone from replying, though you certainly do not have to answer.

Kathianne,

Several times what were starting off as good debates have been destroyed by RightWing's incessant posting of pure drivel. He does not argue the issue, he just calls me un-american and says the same things in every post. And look at his volume of posts.

It is not right, should i set his nick on my desktop, check it every few minutes using a bot, and have that bot insert an inflamitory reply in order to disrupt any conversations he might be involved in?

Wade.

 

[wade]

More evidence that I'm better than you. and more mature!

No, it just shows you're unemployed and have nothing better to do.

 

[dilloduck]

It's impossible to help someone else without gaining personally .


oops--am I supposed to say "mother may I respond"?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

I have never said the USA was comparatively not a relatively enlightened society. I agree, more than any nation we have in the past put principals over self-interest. However, that is not much of a standard given that no nation in history except the US has really done so at all.

Exactly. You have a double standard.

I simply seek to point out the difference between the cases where the US has acted rightly vs. the cases where the US has not. You wish to pretend that everything and anything the US does is "good", and that is hardly the case. For a short time - mostly during and immeadiately after WWII we practiced the principals which you hold so high. But since then... well I'm still waiting for a single example in foriegn policy where the US did not seek it's own interest first and foremost. You have yet to provide an example (I'm not saying there arn't a few, just that you have not presented one).

We give tons of aid all over the world. We fight for freedom. Of course, our self interest is a factor, there is usually a way for a win win for all parties. That's what we find. The win win scenario.

So go ahead msg board boy - lets see you try to present an actual argument rather than just spew crap. If you cannot do so, please stop replying to my posts.

Wade.

I've given tons of great arguments. You're just in denial about your own inadequacies. I'll respond to whatever I want, thank you very much.
Go have a snack.:gross2: