Supreme Ct. Justice Scalia predicts New Internment Camps

Shadows Dancing: Japanese Espionage Against the West 1939-1945 (1993)


The book notes that, as of the end of January, 1941, the Japanese Foreign Office changed their activities from propaganda in nature to intelligence gathering. ”The objectives included the establishment of an intelligence organ which was to function primarily from the Washington Embassy.”


”The other major aspect of their plan was the recruitment of US citizens of foreign extraction (other than Japanese), Communists, Negroes, labour union members and anti-Semites for intelligence-gathering purposes, especially those who had access to governmental establishments, laboratories, factories and transportation facilities. Also planned was the recruitment as espionage agents of 'second generation' Japanese persons then living in the United States.”

This refers to the Nisei generation, then.

A specific reference to the Japanese Consul in Los Angeles is made when the book states:

”He had engaged reliable Japanese second-generation citizens in the San Pedro and San Diego areas to keep a close watch on shipping and aircraft movements, and other agents had been employed to watch the US-Mexico border. He had also succeeded in employing the services as agents of several US servicemen of Japanese descent then in the US Army, and had spies working in several aircraft manufacturing factories.”

That is quite interesting, especially the part relating to using Japanese Americans already in the US military.

The book moves on to talk about plans for sabotage in the US.:

”Japanese plans to carry out sabotage in the United States involved Negro movements and-originally at least- an ultra-nationalist right-wing subversive movement known as the Silver Shirts.”

The Silver Shirts group was dropped when they proved too strange even for war usage. The book cites some specific black groups as being used, however:

”The Japanese allegedly worked in cooperation with several powerful Negro groups to establish espionage and sabotage operations, including the Negro Congress, the Negro Alliance and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.”


The book refers to the Magic intercepts and notes that, due to what was in them, ”America became fully aware that Japan was pursuing aggressive and warlike intent, and that nothing the Americans could do – at least diplomatically – would prevent the eventual outbreak of the war.”



”Japanese Army intelligence was also heavily involved in the Pearl Harbor region. They operated a vast organization of fifth columnists, mainly shop-keepers and other small businessmen, all of whom were financed by the Japanese Tourist Bureau. Japanese Navy Intelligence was also prevalent in the region, operation in similar fashion but with the advantage of having truck drivers delivering fresh fruits, vegetables and other items to American ships in the harbor.”




The book is among those that claim that the US had full warning of the attack on Pearl Harbor due to the Magic intercepts.




The FBI arrested a number of Japanese-Americans right after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. There were around 3,000 arrested, but not for spying;(that was too difficult or impossible to prove) they were community leaders, bankers, ministers, language teachers, journalists, etc, who the FBI felt were potentially dangerous. Thus the ability of the revisionists to claim that no japanese americans were arrested for espionage....very disingenuous claim....but the fact remains the Japanese used Japanese American citizens to spy on America prior to and during the war.
 
This story illustrates the stupidity of allowing these guys to stay on the court until they die.....what happens is that they get old and senile....not even to mention some of them are not even qualified when appointed.

In this Scalia refers to Roosevelt's wartime policy of internment as being wrong....thus showing that even Supreme Ct. Justices are susceptible to politically correct propaganda.

Now for the truth>>>>>>>>>>>>>Michelle Malkin | » IN DEFENSE OF INTERNMENT

Nonsense.

This is what happens when right wing extremists are appointed to the Court.

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa are you trying to say that Scalia was wrong about saying that Roosevelts policy of internment was wrong? Geez i am coinfused. heh heh
 
A controversial and taboo topic in Japan to this day...the Japanese have never admitted to this nor apologized for it.]



That is, of course, not true. Japan has acknowledged and apologized several times for it. Books about the subject are sold in major bookstores across the country, and reparations were paid by the Japanese government back in the 60s. Private citizens in the 90s raised additional funds to pay directly to individual women who were victims of the wartime practice.



You are wrong again, ignorant shit.

You have your opinion and you are entitled to it........


It's not an opinion, it's FACT.

Prime Minister Miyazawa apologized several times in 1992 - in South Korea. Chief Cabinet Secretary Kato apologized that same year as well. Chief Cabinet Secretary Kono similarly apologized in 1993. These were apologies that specifically addressed the issue of 'comfort women,' and are just a few of the DOZENS of apologies Japan has formally made since the end of the war.


In the mid-to late 90s you would see middle-aged Japanese women outside many of the major subway stations in Tokyo soliciting donations to send money directly to surviving comfort women in South Korea. This was a private initiative by the Japanese public to recognize what those women had gone through and to make some degree of restitution.


These are FACTS, you moron.
 
The Japanese (contrary to what the devotees of political correctness claim)had a very effective intelligence net in America.]


NO Japanese-Americans were ever convicted of treason, espionage, or sabotage during WWII. None.

Many Japanese-Americans died fighting for this country even after having been thrown into that scumbag FDR's concentration camps.

The Japanese had a world wide and very efficent spy network...for one to believe as you do that they had no spies in America is ridiculous......]


Read carefully idiot: "NO Japanese-Americans were ever convicted of treason, espionage, or sabotage during WWII. None."
 
NO Japanese-Americans were ever convicted of treason, espionage, or sabotage during WWII. None.

Many Japanese-Americans died fighting for this country even after having been thrown into that scumbag FDR's concentration camps.

The Japanese had a world wide and very efficent spy network...for one to believe as you do that they had no spies in America is ridiculous......]


Read carefully idiot: "NO Japanese-Americans were ever convicted of treason, espionage, or sabotage during WWII. None."

The problem with you dumbkoff is you are a simpleton incapable of understanding the complexity of the problem Roosevelt was confronted with regarding disloyal Japanese Ameican Citizens or residents.


The FBI arrested a number of Japanese-Americans right after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. There were around 3,000 arrested, but not for spying;(that was too difficult or impossible to prove) they were community leaders, bankers, ministers, language teachers, journalists, etc, who the FBI felt were potentially dangerous. Thus the ability of the revisionists such as you to point out that no japanese americans were arrested for espionage....very disingenuous claim....but the fact remains the Japanese used Japanese American citizens to spy on America prior to and during the war.
 
In late 1940 members of the U.S. Army Signal Intelligence Service broke Japan's highest level diplomatic code and then constructed a machine that was an analog of the one used by the Japanese. This allowed the U.S. to read Japan's diplomatic traffic from then until after the end of the war. Intelligence thus gained was cover named MAGIC because it seemed that only magicians could have produced it.
Among the decoded messages of 1941 were a number detailing espionage planning and operations involving Japanese-Americans along the West Coast. In February 1942 President Roosevelt authorized the evacuation of all persons of Japanese ancestry.

In 1983 a congressional commission, ignoring available declassified intelligence and ignorant of MAGIC revelations, concluded the President's action was the result of racism, war hysteria and lack of political will.

Now for the first time David D. Lowman, using MAGIC messages and declassified Army, Navy and FBI reports, presents the real reasons for the evacuation. As a former high level officer in the National Security Agency and a witness before congressional committees dealing with the evacuation he was uniquely qualified to tell this story. Those who could never quite believe the base motives attributed to our wartime leaders and our country will find Lowman's story compelling.

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The Japanese had a world wide and very efficent spy network...for one to believe as you do that they had no spies in America is ridiculous......]


Read carefully idiot: "NO Japanese-Americans were ever convicted of treason, espionage, or sabotage during WWII. None."

The problem with you dumbkoff is you are a simpleton incapable of understanding the complexity of the problem Roosevelt was confronted with regarding disloyal Japanese Ameican Citizens or residents.


The FBI arrested a number of Japanese-Americans right after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. There were around 3,000 arrested, but not for spying;(that was too difficult or impossible to prove) they were community leaders, bankers, ministers, language teachers, journalists, etc, who the FBI felt were potentially dangerous. Thus the ability of the revisionists such as you to point out that no japanese americans were arrested for espionage....very disingenuous claim....but the fact remains the Japanese used Japanese American citizens to spy on America prior to and during the war.

The simpleton dumbkoff didn't say no Japanese were arrested for espionage, he said none were convicted of it.
 
Secretary of War Henry Stimson also wrote this in his diary on February 10, 1942

“…I think it is quite within the bounds of possibility that if the Japanese should get naval dominance in the Pacific they would try an invasion of this country; and, if they did, we would have a tough job meeting them.”.



It would have been physically and logistically impossible for Japan to invade and hold 'the US.' Their military leaders knew this and doing so was not a serious goal. Taking Hawaii maybe, but that would be the outer extent. The idea was to push the US out of the Pacific so Japan could pursue the futile policy of an 'Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere' there.
 

heh heh.....I knew that would be over your head. The fact is none were convicted because they were not prosecuted ...in order to prosecute it would have required revealing that the japanese code had been broken....which would have been sheer stupidity to notify the Japs their code had been broken.
 
Secretary of War Henry Stimson also wrote this in his diary on February 10, 1942

“…I think it is quite within the bounds of possibility that if the Japanese should get naval dominance in the Pacific they would try an invasion of this country; and, if they did, we would have a tough job meeting them.”.



It would have been physically and logistically impossible for Japan to invade and hold 'the US.' Their military leaders knew this and doing so was not a serious goal. Taking Hawaii maybe, but that would be the outer extent. The idea was to push the US out of the Pacific so Japan could pursue the futile policy of an 'Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere' there.

Monday Morning quarterbacking is entertaining but the reality of that time is the War Gamers at that time did not have the advantage of hindsight. Also it is one of the maxims of war to never underestimate your enemy.

What if Japan had invaded mexico and Patton's thoughts on the subject>>>>>

What if Japan Invaded Mexico in June of 1942?
 
Secretary of War Henry Stimson also wrote this in his diary on February 10, 1942

“…I think it is quite within the bounds of possibility that if the Japanese should get naval dominance in the Pacific they would try an invasion of this country; and, if they did, we would have a tough job meeting them.”.



It would have been physically and logistically impossible for Japan to invade and hold 'the US.' Their military leaders knew this and doing so was not a serious goal. Taking Hawaii maybe, but that would be the outer extent. The idea was to push the US out of the Pacific so Japan could pursue the futile policy of an 'Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere' there.

Monday Morning quarterbacking is entertaining


It's not armchair quarterbacking, it's rational thought. Something you would know nothing about.
 
The huge mistake liberals/ and the politically correct and even moderates make when it comes to dealing with enemies and potential enemies of America.

That being.........they want to tie the hands of America by imposing strict compliance with civil liberties when a imminent threat of enemy action is likely, possible or probable.

This stupidity of the liberals and their cohorts endangers America...most especially in these times when a few seconds can make all the difference between some horrible enemy action succeeding or failing.

But even at the time of Japan's struggle to create the so called 'Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere' many would have prevented Roosevelt from defending America due to their over zealous notion of insisting on civil rights for all...even enemy aliens.

Fortunately for America--- Roosevelt had the power , foresight and ability to be pragmatic enough to understand that drastic action was called for.

Now...along come the revisionists who want to condemn Roosevelt for violating the civil liberties of the west coast japanese. This would not be all that notable except for the fact that it directly affects how we deal with the fanatical muslim threat.

The attack on the Boston Marathon of very recent times was made possible because of the stupidity of attempting to protect the civil and religious freedom of muslims in America....i.e. Obama forced the FBI to stop monitoring mosques.

Obama Restricts Spying In Mosques While Spying Everywhere Else - Investors.com
 

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