Support the Vision of Prosperity and Opportunity for Everyone

[Misaki]

Need signatures, or at the very least feedback!

Petition here, still waiting for changes to update on fail website. The two important points are 1) people should not feel like sharing it will make their friends look stupid, and 2) people should feel like it has a chance of success, or else they would not support it. (A third key point is that it explains why economists have not supported it.)

This is the image that is supposed to be showing up on the petition:

Target: People who like to win
Sponsored by: (should be) Occupy Wall Street

The rich are rolling in cash. Capitalists complain they don't have anything to invest in. 18 million houses in the US stand empty as those who can afford them already have one.

If highly-paid skilled workers spent less time at work, companies could hire more people. This is all it takes to fix our economic problems.

But economists won't support this because they fear retaliation by the corporations and individuals who control most of the world's wealth, or they are being paid to advocate for the rich.

Maybe one person could have an "accident". But they can't kill everyone.

With a simple system like paying skilled workers 1.2x their normal rate for the first 24 hours, and 0.7x after that, people would not feel they are being unfair to colleagues by working less.

Don't think this is not your problem. This is everyone's problem, due to crime and taxes to fund welfare, unemployment benefits and even prisons.

Previous petitions: 1 2 3 4 5

Our target is to change the world.

 

[Zander]

Nutter......

 

[Oldguy]

Nutter......

A CEO, a conservative and a liberal enter a room. There are 10 cookies lying on a platter.

The CEO takes 9 cookies, then whispers to the conservative, "That liberal is trying to steal your cookie."

 

[Misaki]

Nutter......

A CEO, a conservative and a liberal enter a room. There are 10 cookies lying on a platter.

The CEO takes 9 cookies, then whispers to the conservative, "That liberal is trying to steal your cookie."

Actually,
Psych Your Mind: Don't be a sheep...or a donkey or an elephant

 

[jwoodie]

Who put the cookies on the table?

 

[SniperFire]

Who put the cookies on the table?

The capitalist.

 

[SniperFire]

Well, OP, Obama is forcing us into being a nation of part-time workers, so you may get your wish soon enough!

 

[Misaki]

Who put the cookies on the table?

The dinosaurs. Modern technology would not have been developed if not for fossil fuels, or at least not nearly as quickly.

 

[Mr. H.]

There is little to no investment in many sectors of the economy because of the lingering doubt and uncertainty that Obama has fomented for the last 4 years.

Don't expect things to change until that idiot is gone.

 

[SniperFire]

There is little to no investment in many sectors of the economy because of the lingering doubt and uncertainty that Obama has fomented for the last 4 years.

Don't expect things to change until that idiot is gone.

The smart money will remain on the sidelines or invested abroad as long as this Marxist asshole and his regime are in place.


They don't call it smart money for nothing.

 

[Duped]

Well, OP, Obama is forcing us into being a nation of part-time workers, so you may get your wish soon enough!

He wasn't kidding about fundementally changing our country.

 

[Misaki]

There is little to no investment in many sectors of the economy because of the lingering doubt and uncertainty that Obama has fomented for the last 4 years.

Don't expect things to change until that idiot is gone.

And I suppose you're saying this will show up as overutilization of existing machinery and so on, hm?

 

[Mr. H.]

There is little to no investment in many sectors of the economy because of the lingering doubt and uncertainty that Obama has fomented for the last 4 years.

Don't expect things to change until that idiot is gone.

And I suppose you're saying this will show up as overutilization of existing machinery and so on, hm?

Please translate.

 

[Misaki]

"A firm’s productive capacity is the total level of output or production that it could produce in a given time period. Capacity utilisation is the percentage of the firm’s total possible production capacity that is actually being used."
Source

And what we see, for manufacturing at least, is businesses going from 78% utilization before the financial crisis to 63% in 2009.

US Capacity Utilization: Manufacturing

It's gone back up, some of which is due to old equipment wearing out and not being replaced, but businesses aren't going to spend money on new equipment if they don't have more people buying their products.

 

[Mr. H.]

Thank you.

Consumer confidence is in the tank along with investor confidence.

As if 4 years wasn't enough, the clown got voted in for another 4.


It really is about Obama.

 

[rdean]

Need signatures, or at the very least feedback!

Petition here, still waiting for changes to update on fail website. The two important points are 1) people should not feel like sharing it will make their friends look stupid, and 2) people should feel like it has a chance of success, or else they would not support it. (A third key point is that it explains why economists have not supported it.)

This is the image that is supposed to be showing up on the petition:

Target: People who like to win
Sponsored by: (should be) Occupy Wall Street

The rich are rolling in cash. Capitalists complain they don't have anything to invest in. 18 million houses in the US stand empty as those who can afford them already have one.

If highly-paid skilled workers spent less time at work, companies could hire more people. This is all it takes to fix our economic problems.

But economists won't support this because they fear retaliation by the corporations and individuals who control most of the world's wealth, or they are being paid to advocate for the rich.

Maybe one person could have an "accident". But they can't kill everyone.

With a simple system like paying skilled workers 1.2x their normal rate for the first 24 hours, and 0.7x after that, people would not feel they are being unfair to colleagues by working less.

Don't think this is not your problem. This is everyone's problem, due to crime and taxes to fund welfare, unemployment benefits and even prisons.

Previous petitions: 1 2 3 4 5

Our target is to change the world.

If highly-paid skilled workers spent less time at work, companies could hire more people.

Huh?

Companies Say 3 Million Unfilled Positions in Skill Crisis: Jobs - Bloomberg

The problem isn't too many skilled workers. The problem is there are not enough.

This thread smacks of right wing nutterie.

 

[Misaki]

Thank you.

Consumer confidence is in the tank along with investor confidence.

As if 4 years wasn't enough, the clown got voted in for another 4.


It really is about Obama.

Consumer confidence seems fine to me. People stopped buying $9000 dresses for a while, but now it's not so much about a lack of confidence as it is that showing off your wealth is less socially acceptable while so many people are without jobs.

Sales of Luxury Goods Are Recovering Strongly - NYTimes.com

If highly-paid skilled workers spent less time at work, companies could hire more people.

Huh?

Companies Say 3 Million Unfilled Positions in Skill Crisis: Jobs - Bloomberg

The problem isn't too many skilled workers. The problem is there are not enough.

This thread smacks of right wing nutterie.

Skills Don’t Pay the Bills - NYTimes.com
U.S. pushes for more scientists, but the jobs aren’t there - The Washington Post
Fewer people see college as good financial investment - Life Inc.

 

[rdean]

Thank you.

Consumer confidence is in the tank along with investor confidence.

As if 4 years wasn't enough, the clown got voted in for another 4.


It really is about Obama.

Consumer confidence seems fine to me. People stopped buying $9000 dresses for a while, but now it's not so much about a lack of confidence as it is that showing off your wealth is less socially acceptable while so many people are without jobs.

Sales of Luxury Goods Are Recovering Strongly - NYTimes.com

If highly-paid skilled workers spent less time at work, companies could hire more people.

Huh?

Companies Say 3 Million Unfilled Positions in Skill Crisis: Jobs - Bloomberg

The problem isn't too many skilled workers. The problem is there are not enough.

This thread smacks of right wing nutterie.

Skills Don’t Pay the Bills - NYTimes.com
U.S. pushes for more scientists, but the jobs aren’t there - The Washington Post
Fewer people see college as good financial investment - Life Inc.

I find out that many times, those that post links have never read the link. They just find a "title" that seems to fit their position and then post it.

READ THE LINK before you post it.

This is from you first link:

“Trying to hire high-skilled workers at rock-bottom rates,” the Boston Group study asserted, “is not a skills gap.” The study’s conclusion, however, was scarier. Many skilled workers have simply chosen to apply their skills elsewhere rather than work for less, and few young people choose to invest in training for jobs that pay fast-food wages. As a result, the United States may soon have a hard time competing in the global economy. The average age of a highly skilled factory worker in the U.S. is now 56. “That’s average,” says Hal Sirkin, the lead author of the study. “That means there’s a lot who are in their 60s. They’re going to retire soon.” And there are not enough trainees in the pipeline, he said, to replace them.

As we talked, it became clear that Isbister’s problem is part of a larger one. Isbister told me that he’s ready to offer training to high-school graduates, some of whom, he says, will eventually make good money. The problem, he finds, is that far too few graduate high school with the basic math and science skills that his company needs to compete. As he spoke, I realized that this isn’t a narrow problem facing the manufacturing industry. The so-called skills gap is really a gap in education, and that affects all of us.

Then there is the link about becoming a "scientist"? Huh?

You know, if you really want to push education, try doing a search using words like:

"Jobs with lowest rate of unemployment".

"Degrees with 0% unemployment".

In fact, let me help you out:

College majors with lowest unemployment rates

1. Medical technology technician 1.4%
2. Nursing 2.2%
3. Treatment therapy professions 2.6%
4. Medical assisting services 2.9%
5. Agriculture production & management 3.0%
6. Industrial production technologies 3.1%
7. Pharmacy 3.2%
8. Communications & disorders sciences 3.3%
9. Elementary education 3.6%
10. Special needs education 3.6%
11. Miscellaneous education 3.7%
12. Mechanical engineering 3.8%
13. High school teacher 3.8%
14. Theology & religious vocations 4.1%
15. Management info systems & statistics 4.2%
16. General education 4.2%
17. Health & medical administrative services 4.3%
18. Transportation science & technologies 4.4%
19. Finance 4.5%
20. Physics 4.5%
21. PE/health education 4.5%
22. Criminal justice and fire protection 4.7%
23. PE/Park & Recreation 4.8%
24. Civil engineering 4.9%
25. (tie) Electrical engineering; environmental science; math 5%

25 college majors with lowest unemployment rates - CBS News

Majors and their unemployment rate:
1. Actuarial Science—0 percent
2. Astronomy and Astrophysics—0 percent
3. Educational Administration and Supervision—0 percent
4. Geological and Geophysical Engineering—0 percent
5. Pharmacology—0 percent
6. School Student Counseling—0 percent
7. Agricultural Economics—1.3 percent
8. Medical Technologies Technicians—1.4 percent
9.Atmospheric Sciences and Meteorology—1.6 percent
10. Environmental Engineering, Nursing, and Nuclear Industrial Radiology and Biological Technologies—2.2 percent

And it's not all about degrees. Companies are luring machinists away from each other.

Desperately seeking Americans for manufacturing jobs - Feb. 16, 2012

Stellar Precision Components Inc. turns down work almost daily because it can‘t find enough machinists to employ.

“I could hire 10 people instantly,” said Lori Albright, who owns the Jeannette company with her brother, Mike Vucish

Metalworkers in short supply as manufacturers' orders start to rebound | TribLIVE

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Need signatures, or at the very least feedback!

Petition here, still waiting for changes to update on fail website. The two important points are 1) people should not feel like sharing it will make their friends look stupid, and 2) people should feel like it has a chance of success, or else they would not support it. (A third key point is that it explains why economists have not supported it.)

This is the image that is supposed to be showing up on the petition:

Target: People who like to win
Sponsored by: (should be) Occupy Wall Street

The rich are rolling in cash. Capitalists complain they don't have anything to invest in. 18 million houses in the US stand empty as those who can afford them already have one.

If highly-paid skilled workers spent less time at work, companies could hire more people. This is all it takes to fix our economic problems.

But economists won't support this because they fear retaliation by the corporations and individuals who control most of the world's wealth, or they are being paid to advocate for the rich.

Maybe one person could have an "accident". But they can't kill everyone.

With a simple system like paying skilled workers 1.2x their normal rate for the first 24 hours, and 0.7x after that, people would not feel they are being unfair to colleagues by working less.

Don't think this is not your problem. This is everyone's problem, due to crime and taxes to fund welfare, unemployment benefits and even prisons.

Previous petitions: 1 2 3 4 5

Our target is to change the world.

Thank God for you it's not illegal to be stupid.

 

[bayoubill]

Nutter......

A CEO, a conservative and a liberal enter a room. There are 10 cookies lying on a platter.

The CEO takes 9 cookies, then whispers to the conservative, "That liberal is trying to steal your cookie."

that sorta reminds me of this... not much, but sorta...

(I 'magine most of y'all mighta seen this before...)

Tax Cuts -- A Simple Lesson In Economics

Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand.

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes
to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go
something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh $7.
The eighth $12.
The ninth $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decide to do.

The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with
the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are
all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily
meal by $20." So, now dinner for the ten will only cost $80. The group still
wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.

So, the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But
what about the other six, the paying customers? How could they divvy up the $20
windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?

The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted
that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each
end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal.

So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's
bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each
should pay.

And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat
for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their
savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the
tenth man "but he got $10!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too.
It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got
only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything
at all. The system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth and
beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down
and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered
something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even
half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax
system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a
tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just
may not show up at the table anymore. There are lots of good restaurants in
Europe and the Caribbean.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Distinguished Professor of Economics
536 Brooks Hall
University of Georgia