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There's an optimal rate at which to set taxes but it depends on the state of the economy. Generally speaking, extremist libtards always want to set taxes higher than the optimal window and far right wing retards always want to set taxes lower than the optimal window. Your approach to taxes mirrors the latter.

The bottom line is that budget deficits do just as much harm to the economy as unnecessary social programs. But it really doesn't matter what you set the tax rate at when there's corruption and inefficiency going on within the government.

Thanks to the current tax cuts........

The deficit is down more then 50%

Revenues are at record highs - and climbing

Unemployment is 4.3%

Wages are up

ven with high oil prices and a war the US economy is growing and doing well
 
Thanks to the current tax cuts........

The deficit is down more then 50%

Revenues are at record highs - and climbing

Unemployment is 4.3%

Wages are up

ven with high oil prices and a war the US economy is growing and doing well
And thanks to cut and spend policies...government has grown and the national debt is climbing. The dollar is at a low. Homes are being forfeited at record levels and the gap between the middle class and the rich are growing. I could care less if the budget deficit is down 50%, there's no excuse for fiscal irresponsibility or 6 consecutive years of budget deficits in any Presidency.
 
And thanks to cut and spend policies...government has grown and the national debt is climbing. The dollar is at a low. Homes are being forfeited at record levels and the gap between the middle class and the rich are growing. I could care less if the budget deficit is down 50%, there's no excuse for fiscal irresponsibility or 6 consecutive years of budget deficits in any Presidency.

This may come as a shock to you, but the defict is shriking and revenues continue to climb - due to tax CUTS
 
This may come as a shock to you, but the defict is shriking and revenues continue to climb - due to tax CUTS
A shrinking budget deficit has nothing to do with tax cuts. One can have a budget surplus and still have tax cuts. Duh.

Revenues are only reflective of corporate profits. The blue collar wage earners aren't seeing any of those gains.
 
A shrinking budget deficit has nothing to do with tax cuts. One can have a budget surplus and still have tax cuts. Duh.

Revenues are only reflective of corporate profits. The blue collar wage earners aren't seeing any of those gains.

So the tax cuts which spurred economic growth, the rising stock market, leaving more money in peoples pockets to spend, the rising retail sales numbers, and working capital for businesses to exand and hire; have nothing to do with the RECORD revenues flowing into the US Treasury?
 
So the tax cuts which spurred economic growth, the rising stock market, leaving more money in peoples pockets to spend, the rising retail sales numbers, and working capital for businesses to exand and hire; have nothing to do with the RECORD revenues flowing into the US Treasury?
I don't deny corporations are enjoying record profits. But I am questioning who's benefiting from them. The rich are getting the majority of those benefits. And what have you been arguing the whole time? Let's cut taxes on the rich. Ridiculous. And what happens when the poor and middle class can't afford to buy any thing? You'd rather we had an economic model similar to Mexico's.
 
I don't deny corporations are enjoying record profits. But I am questioning who's benefiting from them. The rich are getting the majority of those benefits. And what have you been arguing the whole time? Let's cut taxes on the rich. Ridiculous. And what happens when the poor and middle class can't afford to buy any thing? You'd rather we had an economic model similar to Mexico's.

In a capitalist economy its the ones who can play the game the best who reap the reards. If you tax the rich to the point to where they take thier capital elsewhere it is "elsewhere" that will benefit. They didnt get rich by being stupid.
How does taxing the successful do anything to help the less succesful?
 
In a capitalist economy its the ones who can play the game the best who reap the reards. If you tax the rich to the point to where they take thier capital elsewhere it is "elsewhere" that will benefit. They didnt get rich by being stupid.
How does taxing the successful do anything to help the less succesful?

where exactly is this "elsewhere" of which you speak? Do you think that the average American millionaire will pull all his money out of the stockmarket and stick it in his mattress if confronted with a marginal 3% increase in the top bracket tax rate?
 
How does taxing the successful do anything to help the less succesful?


by helping to build better schools for the children of the less successful.... by reducing the deficit which the children of the less successful will inherit...
by rebuilding infrastructure that can support more economic development and expansion.... I could keep going, but you get the picture - I hope.
 
where exactly is this "elsewhere" of which you speak? Do you think that the average American millionaire will pull all his money out of the stockmarket and stick it in his mattress if confronted with a marginal 3% increase in the top bracket tax rate?

No, however they may choose to continue to outsource as a method to offsest the income lost to higher taxation. And again--how does this 3% marginal increase help the less ambitious and less successful?
 
No, however they may choose to continue to outsource as a method to offsest the income lost to higher taxation. And again--how does this 3% marginal increase help the less ambitious and less successful?

asked and answered
 
How does taxing the successful do anything to help the less succesful?
Because the rich need the poor and middle class to consume their products just as much as the poor and middle class need the rich to subsidize their incomes and pay for government services.
 
by helping to build better schools for the children of the less successful.... by reducing the deficit which the children of the less successful will inherit...
by rebuilding infrastructure that can support more economic development and expansion.... I could keep going, but you get the picture - I hope.

oh ya--socialism. I'd recognize it anywhere. No thanks--I've seen it in action.
 
oh ya--socialism. I'd recognize it anywhere. No thanks--I've seen it in action.

I have never suggested government ownership of the means of production. You guys use the word socialism to mean anything left of center.

and guess what.... I could give a fuck if you want it or not...the democrats in congress and the democrat that will be in the white house in '08 will shove it down your throat (or up your ass) whether you like it or not.

and I will laugh my ass off

:badgrin:
 
I have never suggested government ownership of the means of production. You guys use the word socialism to mean anything left of center.

and guess what.... I could give a fuck if you want it or not...the democrats in congress and the democrat that will be in the white house in '08 will shove it down your throat (or up your ass) whether you like it or not.

and I will laugh my ass off

:badgrin:

It's not about what I want and when he government takes from the "rich" and redistributes the rewards of thier success to the poor you have a socialist mechanism at work.

The remainder of your post is hyper-partisan ranting which does nothing to solve problems or mend fences.
 
It's not about what I want and when he government takes from the "rich" and redistributes the rewards of thier success to the poor you have a socialist mechanism at work.

The remainder of your post is hyper-partisan ranting which does nothing to solve problems or mend fences.


we have had a progressive income tax system for a century... if you want to incorrectly call that socialism.... knock yerself out....It is gonna stay progressive because society has always wanted it that way. Quit bitchin'.

Oh.... and I really am not all that fired up about mending fences. It is interesting that the right now calls for fence mending...they sure didn't give a fuck about it when the hounded Bill Clinton for eight solid years and hobbled his presidency.

what goes around comes around.
 
and as far as "solving problems"...from my perspective, a democratic congress and a new democratic president will solve a lot of problems...

it may not be the solution you would prefer, but as I said before, I really don't give a shit.
 
I don't deny corporations are enjoying record profits. But I am questioning who's benefiting from them. The rich are getting the majority of those benefits. And what have you been arguing the whole time? Let's cut taxes on the rich. Ridiculous. And what happens when the poor and middle class can't afford to buy any thing? You'd rather we had an economic model similar to Mexico's.


Considering a small minority pay a majority of the taxes - if yiu cut taxres those who oay the taxes will get the cut

Is that to deep for you?

the top 25% of earners pay 84% of all federal Incomes taxes - how much more do you want them to pay?
 
And thanks to cut and spend policies...government has grown and the national debt is climbing. The dollar is at a low. Homes are being forfeited at record levels and the gap between the middle class and the rich are growing. I could care less if the budget deficit is down 50%, there's no excuse for fiscal irresponsibility or 6 consecutive years of budget deficits in any Presidency.

Wages are rising

Foreclosures - part of the problem is ever increasing property taxes which cause payments to rise if the mortgage has an escrow acct. The hightes taxe sin the nation are in CA, NY, NJ, and MI (gues which party runs those states)

Without the "rich" trhere would be no investments, no jobs, and no money to fund the liberal social programs. They pay the majority of taxes collected

I never got a job from a poor man - have you?
 
I have never suggested government ownership of the means of production. You guys use the word socialism to mean anything left of center.

and guess what.... I could give a fuck if you want it or not...the democrats in congress and the democrat that will be in the white house in '08 will shove it down your throat (or up your ass) whether you like it or not.

and I will laugh my ass off

:badgrin:

socialism is a perfect description of what libs want

when Hillary bellowed how she wanted the oil companies profits - it was one of the very few times she told the truth
 

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