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[No the republicans cannot block anything.
without sixty democratic senators present and voting, they most certainly CAN.
All they need is 51 votes(if it's considered after Oct. 15). And how many senators are democrats? Do the math. The republicans are not even a factor and if you think they are, then you as stupid as you look. The dems have a fillibuster proof majority. Even if all the republicans vote against the measure it can still be passed.
Is THIS the statement you are asking for documentation to support?"Traditionally Republicans are more homogenous than Democrats because Democrats in general are a much more diverse group of people. "
if so:
Democrats Gain Edge in Party Identification - Pew Research Center for the People & the Press
http://www.nd.edu/~cwolbrec/PartyID.pdf
(Page 64 of 66) - Multiculturalism and American Party Politics authored by Bass, Shana.
Republican Base Heavily White, Conservative, Religious
In historical terms, the Democratic Party held a sizable lead over the Republicans in party identification.
without sixty democratic senators present and voting, they most certainly CAN.
All they need is 51 votes(if it's considered after Oct. 15). And how many senators are democrats? Do the math. The republicans are not even a factor and if you think they are, then you as stupid as you look. The dems have a fillibuster proof majority. Even if all the republicans vote against the measure it can still be passed.
Not quite. After Oct 15th, the Democrats can pass the health care bill via reconciliation, but the rules the bill must fall under are very different than normal. They don't exactly have a free reign with the bill if they choose that path.
This quote contradicts your claim that republicans have traditionally been more homogeneous than democrats.
I keep asking and getting no answer. In fact usually after I ask the thread dies.
How are the Republicans blocking any legislation? In the house it takes 218 votes to pass a bill and there are 265 Democrats, in the Senate it takes 51 votes to pass a bill and the Democrats have 59 Senators and 2 more that are Independent that vote democratic.
Can anyone explain this to me?
I keep asking and getting no answer. In fact usually after I ask the thread dies.
How are the Republicans blocking any legislation? In the house it takes 218 votes to pass a bill and there are 265 Democrats, in the Senate it takes 51 votes to pass a bill and the Democrats have 59 Senators and 2 more that are Independent that vote democratic.
Can anyone explain this to me?
First of all, who said Republicans were blocking any legislation?
I keep asking and getting no answer. In fact usually after I ask the thread dies.
How are the Republicans blocking any legislation? In the house it takes 218 votes to pass a bill and there are 265 Democrats, in the Senate it takes 51 votes to pass a bill and the Democrats have 59 Senators and 2 more that are Independent that vote democratic.
Can anyone explain this to me?
the question presumes that either party is monolithic and homogenous which is certainly false. The question does not address healthcare specifically, so neither will I.
In general, because of the practical fact that the democrats cannot easily bring 60 united senators to the floor, republicans can stop nearly any bill from proceeding to a vote simply by using the cloture rules.
your wait is over.
I am not sure, I don't have that much knowledge of how political descisions are made in USA...
But I can guess! Maybe if some of republicans trick enough democrats to vote "wrong"...
Then theese rebublicans ARE blocking legislation, arn't they?
No the republicans cannot block anything. If the democrats were "tricked", it's still the democrats vote that would block it , not the republicans.
Perhaps you should stay out of our politics until you learn how the system works.
If they talk them into voting right, they still are not blocking the legislation. Only the Democrats can do that.I am not sure, I don't have that much knowledge of how political descisions are made in USA...
But I can guess! Maybe if some of republicans trick enough democrats to vote "wrong"...
Then theese rebublicans ARE blocking legislation, arn't they?
I keep asking and getting no answer. In fact usually after I ask the thread dies.
How are the Republicans blocking any legislation? In the house it takes 218 votes to pass a bill and there are 265 Democrats, in the Senate it takes 51 votes to pass a bill and the Democrats have 59 Senators and 2 more that are Independent that vote democratic.
Can anyone explain this to me?
Obviously, the Republicans are not able to block this legislation, although they would if they could. The fact is that the leadership of the Democratic Party is so out of step with the rest of the country, including many independents and even some rank and file Democrats, that they can't grasp the fact that while the American people approve of the stated goals of health care reform, reining in health care costs and increasing affordable access to health insurance, that there is strong grass roots opposition to the high cost of the ideas they have put forward, the ideological content of the House bill, public plan and emphasis on end of life counseling, and the ham fisted way in which they have tried to push their bills through Congress before voters have had a chance to fully consider them, as well as the anti business class warfare rhetoric they have used to try to rally support, so all they can do is whimper irrationally that the Republicans did it.
The fact is that if the Democratic leadership had sought consensus on health insurance reform instead of trying to use the issue to achieve a victory over Republicans that would carry them to victory in the 2010 elections, we would be well on our way to achieving the stated goals of reining in health care costs and increasing affordable access to health insurance by now.
the question presumes that either party is monolithic and homogenous which is certainly false. The question does not address healthcare specifically, so neither will I.
In general, because of the practical fact that the democrats cannot easily bring 60 united senators to the floor, republicans can stop nearly any bill from proceeding to a vote simply by using the cloture rules.
your wait is over.
The only problem with using cloture is that the Senators have to vote on that too.
I think this is a misleading and unecessarily polarizing argument.If they talk them into voting right, they still are not blocking the legislation. Only the Democrats can do that.
I keep asking and getting no answer. In fact usually after I ask the thread dies.
How are the Republicans blocking any legislation? In the house it takes 218 votes to pass a bill and there are 265 Democrats, in the Senate it takes 51 votes to pass a bill and the Democrats have 59 Senators and 2 more that are Independent that vote democratic.
Can anyone explain this to me?
Obviously, the Republicans are not able to block this legislation, although they would if they could. The fact is that the leadership of the Democratic Party is so out of step with the rest of the country, including many independents and even some rank and file Democrats, that they can't grasp the fact that while the American people approve of the stated goals of health care reform, reining in health care costs and increasing affordable access to health insurance, that there is strong grass roots opposition to the high cost of the ideas they have put forward, the ideological content of the House bill, public plan and emphasis on end of life counseling, and the ham fisted way in which they have tried to push their bills through Congress before voters have had a chance to fully consider them, as well as the anti business class warfare rhetoric they have used to try to rally support, so all they can do is whimper irrationally that the Republicans did it.
The fact is that if the Democratic leadership had sought consensus on health insurance reform instead of trying to use the issue to achieve a victory over Republicans that would carry them to victory in the 2010 elections, we would be well on our way to achieving the stated goals of reining in health care costs and increasing affordable access to health insurance by now.
Well, you're never going to get consensus, for sure. But one would think that since health care reform has been a hot topic issue for at least the last 60 years and has only grown to be an even bigger hurdle over time, it shouldn't be necessary to revisit all the reasons WHY it is necessary.
I keep asking and getting no answer. In fact usually after I ask the thread dies.
How are the Republicans blocking any legislation? In the house it takes 218 votes to pass a bill and there are 265 Democrats, in the Senate it takes 51 votes to pass a bill and the Democrats have 59 Senators and 2 more that are Independent that vote democratic.
Can anyone explain this to me?
First of all, who said Republicans were blocking any legislation?
Ahh dishonest deflection at its best.
I keep asking and getting no answer. In fact usually after I ask the thread dies.
How are the Republicans blocking any legislation? In the house it takes 218 votes to pass a bill and there are 265 Democrats, in the Senate it takes 51 votes to pass a bill and the Democrats have 59 Senators and 2 more that are Independent that vote democratic.
Can anyone explain this to me?
I am not sure, I don't have that much knowledge of how political descisions are made in USA...
But I can guess! Maybe if some of republicans trick enough democrats to vote "wrong"...
Then theese rebublicans ARE blocking legislation, arn't they?
No the republicans cannot block anything. If the democrats were "tricked", it's still the democrats vote that would block it , not the republicans.
Perhaps you should stay out of our politics until you learn how the system works.
They can still filibuster.
Franken Declared Winner of Minnesota Senate Election, Giving Dems Filibuster-Proof Majority
the question presumes that either party is monolithic and homogenous which is certainly false. The question does not address healthcare specifically, so neither will I.
In general, because of the practical fact that the democrats cannot easily bring 60 united senators to the floor, republicans can stop nearly any bill from proceeding to a vote simply by using the cloture rules.
your wait is over.
The only problem with using cloture is that the Senators have to vote on that too.
exactly. And you need 60 votes to stop debate and move the bill to a vote. Democrats cannot practically bring 60 votes to the floor, ergo, they cannot stop republicans from continuing to debate (filibuster).
First of all, who said Republicans were blocking any legislation?
Ahh dishonest deflection at its best.
No deflection at all...quite a simple question. I will ask it again. Perhaps you will actually answer it this time.
Who said Republicans were blocking any legislation?
