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  1. RetiredGySgt
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    I keep asking and getting no answer. In fact usually after I ask the thread dies.

    How are the Republicans blocking any legislation? In the house it takes 218 votes to pass a bill and there are 265 Democrats, in the Senate it takes 51 votes to pass a bill and the Democrats have 59 Senators and 2 more that are Independent that vote democratic.

    Can anyone explain this to me?
     
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    The Obamabots and blind Democrats cannot answer this. Sorry to disappoint you, but they don't use logic.
     
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    i've asked it too
    no one can answer it


    or rather, no one is willing to try
     
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    I am not sure, I don't have that much knowledge of how political descisions are made in USA...

    But I can guess! Maybe if some of republicans trick enough democrats to vote "wrong"...
    Then theese rebublicans ARE blocking legislation, arn't they?
     
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    IMHO: The only ways the GOP can really block any legislation at this point is to either 1) try to bottle it up in a committee where they may get some help from more conservative democrats, 2) if the Democrats are really intent on getting some GOP input and compromise which Republicans can refuse to offer, or 3) by traveling out of district to disrupt public discussions on legislation.

    Are they doing all of these - some argue yes, some argue no.

    But when all is said and done Democrats have the mandate and the votes right now.
     
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    I don't think the Republicans are blocking the HC legislation.

    The status quo POLS of both parties blocking the legislation.

    I'm kind of glad about that, but for reasons that are probably very different than your reason for hoping this legislation fails to pass.
     
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    the question presumes that either party is monolithic and homogenous which is certainly false. The question does not address healthcare specifically, so neither will I.

    In general, because of the practical fact that the democrats cannot easily bring 60 united senators to the floor, republicans can stop nearly any bill from proceeding to a vote simply by using the cloture rules.

    your wait is over.
     
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    No the republicans cannot block anything. If the democrats were "tricked", it's still the democrats vote that would block it , not the republicans.

    Perhaps you should stay out of our politics until you learn how the system works.
     
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    Actually ANY vote against a measure - no matter WHO casts it - is part of the block.

    And I agree with maineman - to assume all members of a political party always vote as a block makes this question hypothethical trivia. Traditionally Republicans are more homogenous than Democrats because Democrats in general are a much more diverse group of people.

    I think the attempt to label and pigeon hole people into groups may be convenient in that you don't have to actually get to know an individual before you "pass judgement." But it is counter-productive in very many ways.
     
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    without sixty democratic senators present and voting, they most certainly CAN.
     

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