still trying to keep the red man down

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    DOI retaliating and abusing the tribes again.
    WASHINGTON - An angry federal judge denounced Interior Secretary Gale Norton on Friday after officials in her agency weighed cutting off federal checks to American Indians suing the government for past royalties.



    Attorneys for Indians seeking billions of dollars in the suit asked for an emergency hearing before the judge, citing Interior Department memos directing a temporary halt to all communications with Indians. One memo said some payments had already been stopped and another said they might have to be stopped.


    "Has Secretary Norton decided to declare war on the Indians in this litigation?" U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth barked at Sandra Spooner, the Justice Department lawyer representing Norton and her department. "It comes across as absolute, direct retaliation."


    Attorneys for Norton told the judge that the checks never were and wouldn't be stopped.


    The department sent out the correspondence Thursday, a day after Lamberth ordered the Interior Department to keep the Indians informed of the lawsuit anytime they try to sell or exchange their lands or other assets.


    The judge, however, also found that the department had violated his order in December 2002 not to communicate with Indians in any way that interferes with their rights under the lawsuit.


    Dennis Gingold, a lawyer representing the Indians, told Lamberth "the government is using the two orders as a sword to harm the beneficiaries."


    "There was nothing in the order that justified withholding the checks. It's a willful attempt to undermine the integrity of this litigation," Gingold said. "The people who need their money the most are being hurt."


    That the department might have used the order to justify stopping payments drew an angry response from Lamberth.


    "To stop them, and to say you're doing it because of my order, is a flat-out lie. A lie!" he bristled. "I've never said stop any checks. It's Interior that does that, and blames it on the court."


    Spooner said that despite the correspondence, Norton had personally directed that no checks be stopped. "There is no indication that any checks are being held up," the lawyer told the judge.


    At Spooner's request, Lamberth changed the wording of his order slightly. He still gazed skeptically down at Spooner. "Then what excuse will there be for what you're doing?" Lamberth asked sarcastically.


    A spokesman for the department said after the hearing that officials wanted the clarification to make sure no payments should be affected.


    "This department has not withheld scheduled checks for payments to individuals as a result of the order," spokesman Dan DuBray said in an interview outside the courtroom after the hearing.


    The lawsuit was filed in 1996 on behalf of more than 300,000 American Indians. It accuses the Interior Department of mismanaging, misplacing or stealing billions of dollars from royalties on oil, gas, timber and grazing on American Indian lands since 1887.


    Congress created the Indian trust fund to manage revenues from parcels designated to each tribal member, but the money was often uncollected, lost or stolen. The department has spent more than $600 million since 1996 trying to fix it.
     
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    Certainly sounds like some undue pressure to me in this link. Looks like citizens will be hit up again for the greed of those responsible for managing programs designed to help people. Sounds almost like the UN debacle.
     
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    Good Lord. A conquered people is a conquered people. Only the supposedly evil white man sets up legal self-torture devices like this. At this rate, what's the damn point? Why don't we all just give the 67 Indians remaining the entire North American continent back? Or better yet, ritually sacrifice ourselves for the "sins" of our past?

    White people have themselves to blame in many respects. They can't figure out if they're going to be the rulers or the ruled. We take blacks as slaves, then become THEIR slaves through affirmative action, welfare and cultural and social acquiescence. We round up Jews into concentration camps, then allow Jews to run our entire foreign policy, sending US to die in THEIR mid-east wars. We slaughter the Indians, then bow before them and let them sue us to pieces.

    White man, you need to pick a path, and soon!
     
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    I know you goal here but I for one just don't want to play the "I am special" game . I won't join the forces that divide our country into millions of "minority" groups. White power would just be another one.
     
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    Conquered people? I believe most tribes are semi-soveigrent nations (ie gambling on reservations) with treaties and contraction abligations with the federal government.
     

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