Steam can no longer be ignored.

For ships; steam is the best, cheapest, and most logical method of being powered. These vessels are floating on their fuel source.
My Gawd, you are beyond stupid. What do the ships use to boil the water that you say is their "fuel source" in order to MAKE the steam? How do they remove the salt from the "fuel source."

Really, give your mom her computer back and go back to school.
 
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it’s clear that the big liars are the true enemies of America.
Yes. The big liars that have idiot sycophants such as yourself proposing STEAM in autos, big rigs and rail, and proposing JET ENGINES to provide wind for wind turbines! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

The big liars who have infantile idiots like you believing wind farms are either carbon neutral or carbon positive!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

The same big liars who are still trying to sell us the "CO2 is killing the planet" snake oil.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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For ships; steam is the best, cheapest, and most logical method of being powered. These vessels are floating on their fuel source.
My Gawd, you are beyond stupid. What do the ships use to boil the water that you say is their "fuel source" in order to MAKE the steam? How do they remove the salt from the "fuel source."

Really, give your mom her computer back and go back to school.
If he went to school, maybe he should sue for a refund. They obviously didn't do their job if he graduated.

And yes, I will continue to mock till either something cracks the delusion or he comes up with some facts, not conspiracy BS.
 
For ships; steam is the best, cheapest, and most logical method of being powered. These vessels are floating on their fuel source.
My Gawd, you are beyond stupid. What do the ships use to boil the water that you say is their "fuel source" in order to MAKE the steam? How do they remove the salt from the "fuel source."

Really, give your mom her computer back and go back to school.
If he went to school, maybe he should sue for a refund. They obviously didn't do their job if he graduated.

And yes, I will continue to mock till either something cracks the delusion or he comes up with some facts, not conspiracy BS.
You are not going to crack any of Octodolt's delusions. He clings to them, fondles them and has sex with them. Facts are anathema.
 
My Gawd, you are beyond stupid. What do the ships use to boil the water that you say is their "fuel source" in order to MAKE the steam? How do they remove the salt from the "fuel source."

Really, give your mom her computer back and go back to school.
If he went to school, maybe he should sue for a refund. They obviously didn't do their job if he graduated.

And yes, I will continue to mock till either something cracks the delusion or he comes up with some facts, not conspiracy BS.
You are not going to crack any of Octodolt's delusions. He clings to them, fondles them and has sex with them. Facts are anathema.
eeeewwww.... I think I need a shower just thinking about that. Feel vaguely violated.
 
Notice how all the depraved yellow bellied communist lapdogs say nothing about the “terrorism” that destroyed all the economic benefits derived from cheap energy. They used terrorism to hijack this nation away from cheap energy

Those who got rich from oil, that causes all wars and bloodshed in pursuit of oil, that murdered some of our best presidents, those that destroyed America’s standing in the eyes of the world for oil, are the same ones who are really behind the planting of explosives in the twin towers and WTC building 7, the missing wreckage of flight 77 at the pentagon, the attempted deception with the stunt that happened near shanksville P.A. and all that happened on September 11th 2001.

These Communist world order international criminals are at war with the American people, they hate our freedom and Constitution. Debt and exploitation fades with cheap energy. The communist at the core of the so-called Federal Reserve that financed Lenin and Stalin, and have incorporated communist spying on innocent Americans through hijacking the N.S.A , and the bogus 9-11 inspired Dept of homeland security are terrorist. They hate freedom and love slavery. By way of deception; the media, and all other evil methods mainly usury and enslavement they serve their master Lucifer.

So course all the evil lying lapdog bottom feeding peons will come out of the woodwork and try to divert attention away from true progress and independence. We are truly at war with these people. Notice what they spray in the air: LINK: STRANGE DAYS STRANGE SKIES
At this point the war on the American people and freedom/war on terror, is carried out in the Fabian mode of warfare. Poison flu shots and all.

The pea-brained Anti-American imbeciles believe heated salt water does not make steam. What pathetic idiots. Do the math one functional scrap heap jet engine can power more than 50 stationary windmills, is this use of fuel economical or what? They say nothing about tornado alley and all the cheap energy that can be generated from mobile windmill systems.

Be not deceived; these clowns are our enemies, and are at war with this nation, and the world. All the illegal, may-day demonstrating, union breaking, job stealing, slave labor communist invaders, underscore the facts.

Slave labor vs Cheap energy....you decide.
 
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I just steam cleaned the area rugs in my house!! that shit works good!! Steam!! It's the answer!! Now what was the question?
 
Wow, my first chance to negative rep someone for good legitimate reasons.

Notice how all the depraved yellow bellied communist lapdogs say nothing about the “terrorism” that destroyed all the economic benefits derived from cheap energy.

I must be a masochist for even responding, but I am deriving a modicum of entertainment value by your foam flecked screeds here. So I guess it's a fair trade. :funnyface:

I also don't believe that invisible cows currently control my life.

Please, in small, slowly spoken, carefully considered SANE words, spell out the "terrorism" is hijacking the world away from 'cheap steam energy'? Please cite specifics and sources. Invectives are not truths. Rhetoric is not fact.

Those who got rich from oil, that causes all wars and bloodshed in pursuit of oil, that murdered some of our best presidents, those that destroyed America’s standing in the eyes of the world for oil, are the same ones who are really behind the planting of explosives in the twin towers and WTC building 7, the missing wreckage of flight 77 at the pentagon, the attempted deception with the stunt that happened near shanksville P.A. and all that happened on September 11th 2001.

:::pinches bridge of nose in pain::: mmmkay. Can you name names with legitimate proof? Or is this all the damn trilateral commission/gnomes of zurich/evil jooos/BOOOOOOSH! bullshit? Lots of accusations, but no proof here.

So course all the evil lying lapdog bottom feeding peons will come out of the woodwork and try to divert attention away from true progress and independence. We are truly at war with these people. Notice what they spray in the air: LINK: STRANGE DAYS STRANGE SKIES
At this point the war on the American people and freedom/war on terror, is carried out in the Fabian mode of warfare. Poison flu shots and all.

Your link is paranoid schizophrenia's digital edition. I doubt you believe that contrails really exist except in evil chemical "Miranda" style weapons to lull us all to sleep and slavery. It is junk science, logical falacies and paranoia incarnate. I recommend you get a pair of binoculars, and look carefully at the planes flying in front of these contrails and see the logos on the side. Or are they ALL disguised as passenger planes? You do realize that the basic fundamentals of compressor based refrigeration causes vapor to appear? That was discovered when the concept first appeared. A wing and jet engine do a lot of violent things to air as they pass through it IF conditions are right.

Ride the Bullet and fornit me some fornis while your at it.

The pea-brained Anti-American imbeciles believe heated salt water does not make steam. What pathetic idiots. Do the math one functional scrap heap jet engine can power more than 50 stationary windmills, is this use of fuel economical or what? They say nothing about tornado alley and all the cheap energy that can be generated from mobile windmill systems.

Huh. Mt. Kilueha proves every day that saltwater makes steam. The person who salts his water for cooking knows it can. What a railroad knows is that the amount of scale and distillates that occur when you boil bad water or sea water causes so much corrosion and insulates the boiler into being ineffective, it is less useful to use over long periods of time thanks to dissolved minerals. Learn some geology, bucky.

Mobile windmill systems....

...mobile. Ummmmmm yeah. Science fiction bullshit right here. Reality called, left a message. Just because something seems plausible does not make it factual or operable.

You do realize that they have to shut down windmills on days where the wind is TOO high because you will destroy the windmills and turbines? The blades will sheer off and the tower will come down. Second, just as a logistical POV, you cannot predict when and where tornadoes will occur as they are freak atmospheric occurrences that cover very short periods of time and area. You may as well try to pimp 'hurricane power'.

Lastly, battery and storage capacity. Let's just for one second assume we can create 'mobile windmills' that actually DO work, and you can follow tornadoes around and suck off their power. Where is this energy going to go? How are you going to store it? It's not just going to hang out there stacked in bales or barrels somewhere waiting for you to tap it as needed. Come on here. A little logistical rationality please.

Be not deceived; these clowns are our enemies, and are at war with this nation, and the world. All the illegal, may-day demonstrating, union breaking, job stealing, slave labor communist invaders, underscore the facts.

May flying hamsters rain coconuts of doom on your cities.

Now... schmart guy. Answer me a few questions.

1. Assuming you're right and steam is the perfect power source, HOW are you going to heat the water, to build up pressure if you do not burn petroleum/coal/peat/biomass/bunnies or use nuclear energy? If you say Solar, how are you going to generate power at night?

2. How exactly do you see "mobile wind farms" working? How are they transported?

3. When were you admitted to psychiatric treatment, and why did they give you access back to the interwebs? If you have not been admitted for psychiatric treatment, why haven't you gone voluntarily?

@ Dude... He's trying to write my epithet.
 
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I have changed my mind and am not going to post smartass things to Octoldit.

Octoldit, please see a medical professional if you really believe these things you are writing. You need help. I am not joking, I am very serious. Anyone who reads your posts is bound to agree. Please get help.
 
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You dime a dozen imbeciles are all the same. The stupidity does not change, neither does the Anti-American rhetoric. You have failed.
 
I don't know if it's a matter of pride, or arrogance to overlook the major contribution steam has made to the industrial revolution. This nation certainly has a proven reliable source of cheap energy to fall back on.

Not until steam is reintroduced as a method of helping to jump start this ailing economy how can it be said that any serious effort was made to save this nation and the economy?

An steam powered automobile in this day could possibly sell as well as the ford model T. With the Government ownership of General motors how can we ignore the possibilities? It's very possible some American engineer has already developed a modern steam engine that is ready for mass production.

For ships; steam is the best, cheapest, and most logical method of being powered. These vessels are floating on their fuel source. It is those greedy and beastly bankers those aim it is to create debt that introduced the diesel engine.

Truckers would love the savings that would be possible from steam engines. America might have one last change, and if steam power is ignored say good bye to anything that made this young nation great.
At the risk that this is NOT a joke thread...

As a rail buff, I've often wondered what could be done in a steam locomotive using modern technology and materials. Maybe nuclear to provide heat for steam.

But...

Steam is inefficient. The Second Law of Thermodynamics, entropy is it's major issue. You lose power through heat, friction, resistance and at so many points along the line, you will never equal the efficiency that is currently capable through basic electrical power and internal combustion.

Also, you need to look seriously at all the problems with steam generation for power as well. Transmission of power is severely limited by the basic fact of condensation. You have pressure issues, corrosion issues, foaming issues, bad water issues, bulky fuel (wood and coal are heavy and take up lots of space). Then you have the pollution issue. Not globullshit warming... pollution. As picturesque as it is to watch an elegant J class streamliner charge over mountains at full power, the amount of crap it throws into the air is incredible. A major step backwards in even what I'd call basic air quality right there.

The Railroads abandoned steam because the infrastructure, and complexity of generating high power with little space essentially is too cost prohibitive. The machines are complex and are subject to destructive influence at so many points throughout it's operation, it's just not worth going back to it.

Sure with ships and power plants you can get away with triple and quadruple expansion, but a turbine is much more efficient, but is still extremely power hungry.

We are much better serve sticking with the best technology available instead of going 'Amish' with our basic fundamentals of society in energy generation and infrastructure support.

Steamboy is great fiction, but lousy reality.

Most Americans have arrived at the understanding that “by way of deception” is how you anti-American cult members function. Realizing that the “truth is the first casualty of war” it’s clear that the big liars are the true enemies of America. From the main steam media to those posting all the lies and deceit on message boards it has become clear who the enemies really are.

The first lie you told in your opening comments is that you are a “Rail buff.” You go on to lie about every aspect of the steam engine, As a matter of fact everything you stated about the steam engine is the opposite of the truth.

The steam engine is the oldest and most efficient method of generating power, and is comparable to a dynamo when a portion of energy generated by this simple and remarkable engine is used to provide heat in helping to convert water into steam.

You throw in all kinds of senseless misleading Bull Shi# attempting to convince only the most gullible that your words contain any trace of merit. The steam engine was very durable, with large parts that hardly ever wore out. The greedy enemies of America even in the early days of the print media used “terrorism” to generate fear by saying that steam driven locomotives had the tendency to explode.

These Americans enemies who were bankers, businessmen, and politicians who surly saw to it that some steam engines exploded, and people were killed to lure us away from this most efficient, cost effective, and simple technology. The irony is that all along the greedy enemies of true American progress knew that another invention called the pressure relief valve would prevent any likelihood of explosions had be developed.

Of course the acts of terrorism carried out these same enemies of America were responsible for the sinking of the Titanic and the halt of steam powered ocean liners, ships, and boats to this very day. These are the true terrorist and every act of terrorism is to limit freedom, cause debt, and to enslave the masses of people. Steam was not abandoned it was “terrorism” that caused the destruction of economic freedom steam powered energy would deliver.

Terrorism changes the course of history, Oklahoma city, 9-11 and many other acts of terrorism here and abroad are done based on beastly satanic greed and “blamed on those that oppose them“! There is no need for any confusion.

The murder of president Garfield, Lincoln, and the terrorist media intensified murdered of president Kennedy were all by these same international bankers, businessmen now called corporations and politicians who secretly oppose the true ideals of America. Secret societies for the most part were created to serve this evil and wicked purpose.

Reliance on oil is not the best technology available, and if steam were now available these same enemies of America would not be looting the American treasury, killing American solders, and other peoples based thievery of other nations oil and natural resources.

How in the hell can you talk about air quality when we are at war with these same enemies who are spraying Biotoxins in the air such as these LINK: STRANGE DAYS STRANGE SKIES

We are at war with these enemies of America and the world, and those who are bribed by these animals and bailing out their “usury” apparatus is incredibly dumb, and doing it with no preconditions is the height of Stupidity.

Anyone amazed by what secret societies are all about? They will no doubt pay an enormous price in lowest hell. Why should we follow them there?

All that is required is that one does what is right. In the war of Good and evil ones actions determine their fate.

Say what you want about the Amish, I'm not talking about going back to horse and buggy. At least Amish Americans are true to themselves, have morals, and are not in debt.

One really has to wonder about the notion of what is considered "progress", or are we really speaking of self destruction.

Buddy, this is not a conspiracy. It's the market in action. For comsumers to to purchase something it must meet some criteria. The only criteria the greenies really care about is how environmentally friendly an energy source is. They don't consider whether it is effecient from an energy production or cost stand point. The point is if steam was the way to go, if it was cheap and efficient, we would be using it. The oil industry haven't kept electric or ethanol based cars off the road. The coal and oil companies haven't prevented hydro-electric, wind or solar from arriving into the market. There is no barrier to entry to steam power if one was so inclined. Yet it is not used. Why? Probably because it isn't cost effective or efficient.
 
I'm agreeing with Screaming Eagle now. This guy's disturbed or mentally incompetent and needs medical attention.
 
The electric ignition came out before a rapid boiler mechanism. Until then steam powered cars were common.

I will say that if we adopt steam, there seem to be plenty of folks who could add to the general national energy store, as easily as they get steamed.

and FYI - steam power plants are still in use around the US.

all nuclear power plants are steam powered. So are all our nuclear naval vessels.
 
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Sorry, couldn't resist one more. Your new avatar octodoh!
 

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