South Carolina schools may teach gun safety and training

[hadit]

The point is, that children were apparently not shooting each other or their school mates. These problems we fact today are due to society, and not to a gun.

No, they are due to both things and one is pretty damn easy to fix, you just won't like it.

It's easier to address the symptoms and not the disease. Of course, the disease will still kill you, but don't let that get in the way.

The disease is all the damn guns. The symptoms are 20,000 firearm suicides and accidents each year.

Take away the guns and those suicides will still happen. We've been over this before.

And you lost, since the number went down, significantly.

No, your downfall was insisting that the important number was the number of suicides BY GUN. That's not significant at all. The total number of suicides stays about the same.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No, they are due to both things and one is pretty damn easy to fix, you just won't like it.

It's easier to address the symptoms and not the disease. Of course, the disease will still kill you, but don't let that get in the way.

The disease is all the damn guns. The symptoms are 20,000 firearm suicides and accidents each year.

Take away the guns and those suicides will still happen. We've been over this before.

And you lost, since the number went down, significantly.

No, your downfall was insisting that the important number was the number of suicides BY GUN. That's not significant at all. The total number of suicides stays about the same.

No, it doesn't. That's a problem for you so just deal with it.

 

[hadit]

Children should be.

Why, because you say so?

I would much rather a young person be able to render a found firearm harmless instead of fleeing in terror, leaving it for the next kid to find and play with.

How about run and tell an adult? What a plan eh, and no child gets hurt.

Tell an adult? What good is that going to do when the adult doesn't have any idea how to render the gun harmless either? Either way, there's a potentially dangerous gun left for other kids to find.

In most cases, not yours of course, an adult has far more common sense than a child. And loose guns around is part of why I want to ban the damn things.

1. Banning them won't eliminate them being found.
2. If the adult has also be indocrinated in the fool's paradise and doesn't have a clue how to render a gun harmless, it leaves the gun dangerous. That's just stupid.

Again, what do you want, a SWAT team deployment every time a gun is found? Totally unnecessary.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Why, because you say so?

I would much rather a young person be able to render a found firearm harmless instead of fleeing in terror, leaving it for the next kid to find and play with.

How about run and tell an adult? What a plan eh, and no child gets hurt.

Tell an adult? What good is that going to do when the adult doesn't have any idea how to render the gun harmless either? Either way, there's a potentially dangerous gun left for other kids to find.

In most cases, not yours of course, an adult has far more common sense than a child. And loose guns around is part of why I want to ban the damn things.

1. Banning them won't eliminate them being found.
2. If the adult has also be indocrinated in the fool's paradise and doesn't have a clue how to render a gun harmless, it leaves the gun dangerous. That's just stupid.

Again, what do you want, a SWAT team deployment every time a gun is found? Totally unnecessary.

As I said, and I won't say it again, if that's what it takes since that is the kind of thing we pay them for. Just because the neighbors might be able to put a house on fire out with their garden hoses doesn't mean you don't call the fire department in.

 

[hadit]

It's easier to address the symptoms and not the disease. Of course, the disease will still kill you, but don't let that get in the way.

The disease is all the damn guns. The symptoms are 20,000 firearm suicides and accidents each year.

Take away the guns and those suicides will still happen. We've been over this before.

And you lost, since the number went down, significantly.

No, your downfall was insisting that the important number was the number of suicides BY GUN. That's not significant at all. The total number of suicides stays about the same.

No, it doesn't. That's a problem for you so just deal with it.

Post the stats. Show us total suicides in countries that banned guns, before and after. Make sure to include at least 5 years before and after the event, and include multiple countries so you're not talking about one data point.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The disease is all the damn guns. The symptoms are 20,000 firearm suicides and accidents each year.

Take away the guns and those suicides will still happen. We've been over this before.

And you lost, since the number went down, significantly.

No, your downfall was insisting that the important number was the number of suicides BY GUN. That's not significant at all. The total number of suicides stays about the same.

No, it doesn't. That's a problem for you so just deal with it.

Post the stats. Show us total suicides in countries that banned guns, before and after. Make sure to include at least 5 years before and after the event, and include multiple countries so you're not talking about one data point.

The stats have been posted in this thread, so I won't bother. Anyone not wedded to NRA dogma like you is free to read them.

 

[hadit]

I would much rather a young person be able to render a found firearm harmless instead of fleeing in terror, leaving it for the next kid to find and play with.

How about run and tell an adult? What a plan eh, and no child gets hurt.

Tell an adult? What good is that going to do when the adult doesn't have any idea how to render the gun harmless either? Either way, there's a potentially dangerous gun left for other kids to find.

In most cases, not yours of course, an adult has far more common sense than a child. And loose guns around is part of why I want to ban the damn things.

1. Banning them won't eliminate them being found.
2. If the adult has also be indocrinated in the fool's paradise and doesn't have a clue how to render a gun harmless, it leaves the gun dangerous. That's just stupid.

Again, what do you want, a SWAT team deployment every time a gun is found? Totally unnecessary.

As I said, and I won't say it again, if that's what it takes since that is the kind of thing we pay them for. Just because the neighbors might be able to put a house on fire out with their garden hoses doesn't mean you don't call the fire department in.

If you see a small fire close to your neighbor's house and put it out with a garden hose, you don't need to call the fire department and you save the house. OTOH, if you see a small fire and run away screaming, you most likely condemn the house to destruction. Same with guns. If you find one, you should turn it in to the police because they would see if it was linked to a crime, but running away terrified just leaves it for a kid to find and get hurt.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How about run and tell an adult? What a plan eh, and no child gets hurt.

Tell an adult? What good is that going to do when the adult doesn't have any idea how to render the gun harmless either? Either way, there's a potentially dangerous gun left for other kids to find.

In most cases, not yours of course, an adult has far more common sense than a child. And loose guns around is part of why I want to ban the damn things.

1. Banning them won't eliminate them being found.
2. If the adult has also be indocrinated in the fool's paradise and doesn't have a clue how to render a gun harmless, it leaves the gun dangerous. That's just stupid.

Again, what do you want, a SWAT team deployment every time a gun is found? Totally unnecessary.

As I said, and I won't say it again, if that's what it takes since that is the kind of thing we pay them for. Just because the neighbors might be able to put a house on fire out with their garden hoses doesn't mean you don't call the fire department in.

If you see a small fire close to your neighbor's house and put it out with a garden hose, you don't need to call the fire department and you save the house. OTOH, if you see a small fire and run away screaming, you most likely condemn the house to destruction. Same with guns. If you find one, you should turn it in to the police because they would see if it was linked to a crime, but running away terrified just leaves it for a kid to find and get hurt.

If you find one, get on that amazing piece of technology all the kids have now and call the cops or someone you know is trained in firearms. Give it up, your point is beyond useless to the debate because any sane person would not want their child to start handling a gun they found, period.

 

[hadit]

No Planned Parenthood but the NRA is just fine in schools? Got it. Gun nuts, fucking nuts since guns have but one purpose, killing. Next up, Understanding Racism, by the KKK.

You just equated abortion with racism and Planned Parenthood with the KKK. Good job, dumbass.

I believe in celibrating all the amendments. Comprehensive sex-ed belongs in school, so does gun saftey, along with driver's ed and first aid. If libtards don't want the NRA to head it up then they need to make their own foundation and compete.

I bet if this school wanted to offer an elective on falconry we'd never hear about it eventhough a 14 y/o handeling a wild raptor is more dangerous than a firearm. The left needs serious psychiatric help with their hopolophobia.

You don't let the proponents teach. Playboy wants you you to buy porn, the NRA guns.

Using that standard, sex ed should be taught by groups that believe sex is ONLY for procreation, no other purpose.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No Planned Parenthood but the NRA is just fine in schools? Got it. Gun nuts, fucking nuts since guns have but one purpose, killing. Next up, Understanding Racism, by the KKK.

You just equated abortion with racism and Planned Parenthood with the KKK. Good job, dumbass.

I believe in celibrating all the amendments. Comprehensive sex-ed belongs in school, so does gun saftey, along with driver's ed and first aid. If libtards don't want the NRA to head it up then they need to make their own foundation and compete.

I bet if this school wanted to offer an elective on falconry we'd never hear about it eventhough a 14 y/o handeling a wild raptor is more dangerous than a firearm. The left needs serious psychiatric help with their hopolophobia.

You don't let the proponents teach. Playboy wants you you to buy porn, the NRA guns.

Using that standard, sex ed should be taught by groups that believe sex is ONLY for procreation, no other purpose.

No, the NRA wants you to have guns so it would be taught by people who want you to have sex. Fucking think next time.

 

[hadit]

No Planned Parenthood but the NRA is just fine in schools? Got it. Gun nuts, fucking nuts since guns have but one purpose, killing. Next up, Understanding Racism, by the KKK.

You just equated abortion with racism and Planned Parenthood with the KKK. Good job, dumbass.

I believe in celibrating all the amendments. Comprehensive sex-ed belongs in school, so does gun saftey, along with driver's ed and first aid. If libtards don't want the NRA to head it up then they need to make their own foundation and compete.

I bet if this school wanted to offer an elective on falconry we'd never hear about it eventhough a 14 y/o handeling a wild raptor is more dangerous than a firearm. The left needs serious psychiatric help with their hopolophobia.

You don't let the proponents teach. Playboy wants you you to buy porn, the NRA guns.

Using that standard, sex ed should be taught by groups that believe sex is ONLY for procreation, no other purpose.

No, the NRA wants you to have guns so it would be taught by people who want you to have sex. Fucking think next time.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I hope so, because what you're saying is really stupid.

 

[hadit]

Tell an adult? What good is that going to do when the adult doesn't have any idea how to render the gun harmless either? Either way, there's a potentially dangerous gun left for other kids to find.

In most cases, not yours of course, an adult has far more common sense than a child. And loose guns around is part of why I want to ban the damn things.

1. Banning them won't eliminate them being found.
2. If the adult has also be indocrinated in the fool's paradise and doesn't have a clue how to render a gun harmless, it leaves the gun dangerous. That's just stupid.

Again, what do you want, a SWAT team deployment every time a gun is found? Totally unnecessary.

As I said, and I won't say it again, if that's what it takes since that is the kind of thing we pay them for. Just because the neighbors might be able to put a house on fire out with their garden hoses doesn't mean you don't call the fire department in.

If you see a small fire close to your neighbor's house and put it out with a garden hose, you don't need to call the fire department and you save the house. OTOH, if you see a small fire and run away screaming, you most likely condemn the house to destruction. Same with guns. If you find one, you should turn it in to the police because they would see if it was linked to a crime, but running away terrified just leaves it for a kid to find and get hurt.

If you find one, get on that amazing piece of technology all the kids have now and call the cops or someone you know is trained in firearms. Give it up, your point is beyond useless to the debate because any sane person would not want their child to start handling a gun they found, period.

High school aged kids are perfectly capable of rendering a gun harmless. In your case, it's probably best to run away screaming. You would hurt yourself.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

In most cases, not yours of course, an adult has far more common sense than a child. And loose guns around is part of why I want to ban the damn things.

1. Banning them won't eliminate them being found.
2. If the adult has also be indocrinated in the fool's paradise and doesn't have a clue how to render a gun harmless, it leaves the gun dangerous. That's just stupid.

Again, what do you want, a SWAT team deployment every time a gun is found? Totally unnecessary.

As I said, and I won't say it again, if that's what it takes since that is the kind of thing we pay them for. Just because the neighbors might be able to put a house on fire out with their garden hoses doesn't mean you don't call the fire department in.

If you see a small fire close to your neighbor's house and put it out with a garden hose, you don't need to call the fire department and you save the house. OTOH, if you see a small fire and run away screaming, you most likely condemn the house to destruction. Same with guns. If you find one, you should turn it in to the police because they would see if it was linked to a crime, but running away terrified just leaves it for a kid to find and get hurt.

If you find one, get on that amazing piece of technology all the kids have now and call the cops or someone you know is trained in firearms. Give it up, your point is beyond useless to the debate because any sane person would not want their child to start handling a gun they found, period.

High school aged kids are perfectly capable of rendering a gun harmless. In your case, it's probably best to run away screaming. You would hurt yourself.

No, they are not, especially a gun they have no clue about and just found somewhere. We pay professionals to deal with that, not your fucking kid.

 

[hadit]

Take away the guns and those suicides will still happen. We've been over this before.

And you lost, since the number went down, significantly.

No, your downfall was insisting that the important number was the number of suicides BY GUN. That's not significant at all. The total number of suicides stays about the same.

No, it doesn't. That's a problem for you so just deal with it.

Post the stats. Show us total suicides in countries that banned guns, before and after. Make sure to include at least 5 years before and after the event, and include multiple countries so you're not talking about one data point.

The stats have been posted in this thread, so I won't bother. Anyone not wedded to NRA dogma like you is free to read them.

So post a link to the relevant post. It should be easy to find.

 

[hadit]

1. Banning them won't eliminate them being found.
2. If the adult has also be indocrinated in the fool's paradise and doesn't have a clue how to render a gun harmless, it leaves the gun dangerous. That's just stupid.

Again, what do you want, a SWAT team deployment every time a gun is found? Totally unnecessary.

As I said, and I won't say it again, if that's what it takes since that is the kind of thing we pay them for. Just because the neighbors might be able to put a house on fire out with their garden hoses doesn't mean you don't call the fire department in.

If you see a small fire close to your neighbor's house and put it out with a garden hose, you don't need to call the fire department and you save the house. OTOH, if you see a small fire and run away screaming, you most likely condemn the house to destruction. Same with guns. If you find one, you should turn it in to the police because they would see if it was linked to a crime, but running away terrified just leaves it for a kid to find and get hurt.

If you find one, get on that amazing piece of technology all the kids have now and call the cops or someone you know is trained in firearms. Give it up, your point is beyond useless to the debate because any sane person would not want their child to start handling a gun they found, period.

High school aged kids are perfectly capable of rendering a gun harmless. In your case, it's probably best to run away screaming. You would hurt yourself.

No, they are not, especially a gun they have no clue about and just found somewhere. We pay professionals to deal with that, not your fucking kid.

And the reason they have no clue about the gun found is.....

<waits for the idiots to figure it out>

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No Planned Parenthood but the NRA is just fine in schools? Got it. Gun nuts, fucking nuts since guns have but one purpose, killing. Next up, Understanding Racism, by the KKK.

You just equated abortion with racism and Planned Parenthood with the KKK. Good job, dumbass.

I believe in celibrating all the amendments. Comprehensive sex-ed belongs in school, so does gun saftey, along with driver's ed and first aid. If libtards don't want the NRA to head it up then they need to make their own foundation and compete.

I bet if this school wanted to offer an elective on falconry we'd never hear about it eventhough a 14 y/o handeling a wild raptor is more dangerous than a firearm. The left needs serious psychiatric help with their hopolophobia.

You don't let the proponents teach. Playboy wants you you to buy porn, the NRA guns.

Using that standard, sex ed should be taught by groups that believe sex is ONLY for procreation, no other purpose.

No, the NRA wants you to have guns so it would be taught by people who want you to have sex. Fucking think next time.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I hope so, because what you're saying is really stupid.

No dummy, learn to fucking think! Do you think the NRA wants to teach "Gun Safety" because they want you to see how dangerous a gun can be and then never touch one again? Fuck you're a dumbss. They want to like guns, like they do, and then go buy and think just like they do. It has nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with promoting gun ownership and defeating gun control laws. That's all the NRA stands for, and all it every has or will.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And you lost, since the number went down, significantly.

No, your downfall was insisting that the important number was the number of suicides BY GUN. That's not significant at all. The total number of suicides stays about the same.

No, it doesn't. That's a problem for you so just deal with it.

Post the stats. Show us total suicides in countries that banned guns, before and after. Make sure to include at least 5 years before and after the event, and include multiple countries so you're not talking about one data point.

The stats have been posted in this thread, so I won't bother. Anyone not wedded to NRA dogma like you is free to read them.

So post a link to the relevant post. It should be easy to find.

Find it yourself you lazy asshole.

 

[hadit]

You just equated abortion with racism and Planned Parenthood with the KKK. Good job, dumbass.

I believe in celibrating all the amendments. Comprehensive sex-ed belongs in school, so does gun saftey, along with driver's ed and first aid. If libtards don't want the NRA to head it up then they need to make their own foundation and compete.

I bet if this school wanted to offer an elective on falconry we'd never hear about it eventhough a 14 y/o handeling a wild raptor is more dangerous than a firearm. The left needs serious psychiatric help with their hopolophobia.

You don't let the proponents teach. Playboy wants you you to buy porn, the NRA guns.

Using that standard, sex ed should be taught by groups that believe sex is ONLY for procreation, no other purpose.

No, the NRA wants you to have guns so it would be taught by people who want you to have sex. Fucking think next time.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I hope so, because what you're saying is really stupid.

No dummy, learn to fucking think! Do you think the NRA wants to teach "Gun Safety" because they want you to see how dangerous a gun can be and then never touch one again? Fuck you're a dumbss. They want to like guns, like they do, and then go buy and think just like they do. It has nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with promoting gun ownership and defeating gun control laws. That's all the NRA stands for, and all it every has or will.

I'm going with you NOT being deliberately obtuse. You obviously can't help it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

As I said, and I won't say it again, if that's what it takes since that is the kind of thing we pay them for. Just because the neighbors might be able to put a house on fire out with their garden hoses doesn't mean you don't call the fire department in.

If you see a small fire close to your neighbor's house and put it out with a garden hose, you don't need to call the fire department and you save the house. OTOH, if you see a small fire and run away screaming, you most likely condemn the house to destruction. Same with guns. If you find one, you should turn it in to the police because they would see if it was linked to a crime, but running away terrified just leaves it for a kid to find and get hurt.

If you find one, get on that amazing piece of technology all the kids have now and call the cops or someone you know is trained in firearms. Give it up, your point is beyond useless to the debate because any sane person would not want their child to start handling a gun they found, period.

High school aged kids are perfectly capable of rendering a gun harmless. In your case, it's probably best to run away screaming. You would hurt yourself.

No, they are not, especially a gun they have no clue about and just found somewhere. We pay professionals to deal with that, not your fucking kid.

And the reason they have no clue about the gun found is.....

<waits for the idiots to figure it out>

They have no clue about the fucking gun because it isn't their fucking gun! You as dumb as they fucking get.

 

[2aguy]

You just equated abortion with racism and Planned Parenthood with the KKK. Good job, dumbass.

I believe in celibrating all the amendments. Comprehensive sex-ed belongs in school, so does gun saftey, along with driver's ed and first aid. If libtards don't want the NRA to head it up then they need to make their own foundation and compete.

I bet if this school wanted to offer an elective on falconry we'd never hear about it eventhough a 14 y/o handeling a wild raptor is more dangerous than a firearm. The left needs serious psychiatric help with their hopolophobia.

You don't let the proponents teach. Playboy wants you you to buy porn, the NRA guns.

Using that standard, sex ed should be taught by groups that believe sex is ONLY for procreation, no other purpose.

No, the NRA wants you to have guns so it would be taught by people who want you to have sex. Fucking think next time.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I hope so, because what you're saying is really stupid.

No dummy, learn to fucking think! Do you think the NRA wants to teach "Gun Safety" because they want you to see how dangerous a gun can be and then never touch one again? Fuck you're a dumbss. They want to like guns, like they do, and then go buy and think just like they do. It has nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with promoting gun ownership and defeating gun control laws. That's all the NRA stands for, and all it every has or will.

Yes, better to have 60-70 dead kids every year because you don't like the Eddie Eagle gun safety program......again....no dead kids, no gun control pushes.......