Sound of Settled Science: Polar Bear Edition

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    There are too many polar bears in parts of Nunavut and climate change hasn’t yet affected any of them, says a draft management plan from the territorial government that contradicts much of conventional scientific thinking.

    The proposed plan — which is to go to public hearings in Iqaluit on Tuesday — says that growing bear numbers are increasingly jeopardizing public safety and it’s time Inuit knowledge drove management policy.

    “Inuit believe there are now so many bears that public safety has become a major concern,” says the document, the result of four years of study and public consultation.

    'So many bears:' Draft plan says Nunavut polar bear numbers unsafe
     
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    Polar bear population is forecast to decline by 30% by the year 2050, due to loss of habitat (from ice melt) and hunting.

    You cannot deny that polar bears feeding and reproductive habits require ice. You cannot deny that ice cover in the Arctic is shrinking. Ergo...
     
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    Only my drinking habits require ice.

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    Forecast by whom? So far every climatologists claim regarding polar bears has been laughably wrong.

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    A Modeling claim that is non falsifiable. It is already wrong anyway since the big drop of Arctic ice extent (in the first decade) came 25 years early , yet Polar Bear Population CONTINUED to increase despite that drop to the decadal low in 2007 which is now over TEN YEARS ago.

    How can you explain the obvious failure?
     
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    ergo more polar bears than ever and snow is still not a thing of the past
     
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    Crick also wrote this incorrect statement:

    "You cannot deny that polar bears feeding and reproductive habits require ice. You cannot deny that ice cover in the Arctic is shrinking. Ergo."

    Actually they get most of their calories for the year from March to July time frame where there are still adequate ice cover to use , and den mostly on LAND.
     
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    Ringed and bearded seals feed on benthic organisms (living on the bottom). Thus they cannot feed in waters much deeper than 200 feet. Polar bears feed primarily on those seals. As the ice melts its edge will move away from shore and into deeper water. Problem. Male and female polar bears meet and mate in areas of the best seal-hunting. Problem.
     
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    There are plenty of Seals for the Bears to eat going into July with still plenty of ice cover:

    Buffet time for polar bears – spring/early summer is for eating baby seals

    Spring is the busiest and most important season for polar bears: it is the most important feeding period and it is also when mating occurs. The fat that polar bears put on during the spring and early summer is critical for their survival over the rest of the year and for females, determines whether they can successfully produce cubs the following year.

    Mothers and new cubs emerge from their winter dens in late March to early April and those who have chosen to den on land soon head towards the sea ice. For a fabulous photo of a polar bear female and her two young cubs, just out of their winter den, feeding on a bearded seal pup, pop over here. All other bears, including females with older cubs, will already be on the ice, feeding on the first newborn ice seals of the season and any other seals they can catch."

    By this time most Seal pups have weaned and gone into deeper water and more often away from the Ice shelf, making it harder for the Bears to continue eating at the frenzied rate of Spring. Here is the NSIDC ice chart showing plenty of Ice near the beginning of July when the main Seal Eating Season has winded down to a much lower level..

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    How did Polar Bears, Eskimos survive centuries of little to NO summer ice during the early part of the Holocene?

    When are you EVER going to address it?
     
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    Did Guam just tip over?
     
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