Sorry libs Hurricane Dorian is not evidence of climate change

The whole point of the Green New Deal is not about climate change but the redistribution of wealth. That is fucking Socialism, not "environmentalism". Fuck you if you want to stay poor, some of US here have worked hard for our money and will share it with those "WE WANT TO", not to shit fucks who dont do shit to earn it.
I don’t support the green new deal. It’s way too extreme. But I’m also not gonna run around pretending like climate change is a hoax.
Natural climate change is happening. The man made version doesnt exist. There isn't shit any one can do to stop it and throwing money at a non problem to line democrat pockets is bull shit..
Take man made out of the picture all together. Real climate change is happening and is presenting many dangers to our people and our world. That should be understood and contingencies put in place. It shouldn’t be combated like our right wing is doing.

Mans activity absolutely has an impact on the climate, only a complete imbecile would think otherwise. Now how much of an impact and what effective preventative actions can be done is another question and should be discussed by leaders from around the world. Our genius of a leader walked away from the table and called the whole thing a hoax. His own agencies submit reports contradicting his hoax campaign. What a joke.

I’m not a dem and I’m not interested in money or power, but I do care about the environment and I KNOW we can do better than we are doing now.. Millions of others feel the same way. Just stop with the propaganda.
If climate change is so dangerous, why did Obama buy a 15 million dollar mansion(that requires as much electricity to run as a small city) near the beach? Fuck, you are beiong played like a fool, by your own elites. Again I say "Follow the money" and you know how it is bullshit.
What does Obama buying a big house have to do with anything that I’m saying? And how exactly am I being played like a fool? Cause I care about the environment I’m a fool? Please explain

s0n....your legal of caring borders on hysteria. You're in the vast minority btw.....most folks display only a passing interest in climate change. Not even debatable.

Obama buying a mansion on the shore of the ocean means hes hardly concerned about the science on sea level rise. Doy
 
I don’t support the green new deal. It’s way too extreme. But I’m also not gonna run around pretending like climate change is a hoax.
Natural climate change is happening. The man made version doesnt exist. There isn't shit any one can do to stop it and throwing money at a non problem to line democrat pockets is bull shit..
Take man made out of the picture all together. Real climate change is happening and is presenting many dangers to our people and our world. That should be understood and contingencies put in place. It shouldn’t be combated like our right wing is doing.

Mans activity absolutely has an impact on the climate, only a complete imbecile would think otherwise. Now how much of an impact and what effective preventative actions can be done is another question and should be discussed by leaders from around the world. Our genius of a leader walked away from the table and called the whole thing a hoax. His own agencies submit reports contradicting his hoax campaign. What a joke.

I’m not a dem and I’m not interested in money or power, but I do care about the environment and I KNOW we can do better than we are doing now.. Millions of others feel the same way. Just stop with the propaganda.
If climate change is so dangerous, why did Obama buy a 15 million dollar mansion(that requires as much electricity to run as a small city) near the beach? Fuck, you are beiong played like a fool, by your own elites. Again I say "Follow the money" and you know how it is bullshit.
What does Obama buying a big house have to do with anything that I’m saying? And how exactly am I being played like a fool? Cause I care about the environment I’m a fool? Please explain

s0n....your legal of caring borders on hysteria. You're in the vast minority btw.....most folks display only a passing interest in climate change. Not even debatable.

Obama buying a mansion on the shore of the ocean means hes hardly concerned about the science on sea level rise. Doy
My legal of caring? Exactly what legal of caring do I have?
 
I've watched the AGW k00ks crow about the "decided science" in here for 10 years....taking bows in front of their banner. What has it netted them? Pride in a billboard!:113::113:

Since the NFL season goes full on today, the old football game analogy is in order.....

The AGW k00ks are like a team that has spent the whole game trying to move the ball but have gained just a single yard.....

:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fu:

But the coach is telling the public about how impressed he was with the effort!:hello77:
 
I've watched the AGW k00ks crow about the "decided science" in here for 10 years....taking bows in front of their banner. What has it netted them? Pride in a billboard!:113::113:

Since the NFL season goes full on today, the old football game analogy is in order.....

The AGW k00ks are like a team that has spent the whole game trying to move the ball but have gained just a single yard.....

:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fu:

But the coach is telling the public about how impressed he was with the effort!:hello77:

More like the team that gets its QB sacked over and over again and has negative yardage...
 
I've watched the AGW k00ks crow about the "decided science" in here for 10 years....taking bows in front of their banner. What has it netted them? Pride in a billboard!:113::113:

Since the NFL season goes full on today, the old football game analogy is in order.....

The AGW k00ks are like a team that has spent the whole game trying to move the ball but have gained just a single yard.....

:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fu:

But the coach is telling the public about how impressed he was with the effort!:hello77:
What do you mean “what has it netted them”. Progress towards a cleaner environment is never a bad thing. What damage has it caused?
 
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I've watched the AGW k00ks crow about the "decided science" in here for 10 years....taking bows in front of their banner. What has it netted them? Pride in a billboard!:113::113:

Since the NFL season goes full on today, the old football game analogy is in order.....

The AGW k00ks are like a team that has spent the whole game trying to move the ball but have gained just a single yard.....

:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fu:

But the coach is telling the public about how impressed he was with the effort!:hello77:
What do you mean “what has it netted them”. Progress towards a cleaner environment is never a bad thing. What damage has it caused?

Lol....their goal is 100% renewable energy. After 25 years of hysterics, wind + solar still provide America with less than 7% of our electricity.....so its netted them dick!:113:. Hysterical to me!

If that's spike the football stuff to you, well, God bless!!:coffee:
 
I've watched the AGW k00ks crow about the "decided science" in here for 10 years....taking bows in front of their banner. What has it netted them? Pride in a billboard!:113::113:

Since the NFL season goes full on today, the old football game analogy is in order.....

The AGW k00ks are like a team that has spent the whole game trying to move the ball but have gained just a single yard.....

:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fu:

But the coach is telling the public about how impressed he was with the effort!:hello77:
What do you mean “what has it netted them”. Progress towards a cleaner environment is never a bad thing. What damage has it caused?

Lol....their goal is 100% renewable energy. After 25 years of hysterics, wind + solar still provide America with less than 7% of our electricity.....so its netted them dick!:113:. Hysterical to me!

If that's spike the football stuff to you, well, God bless!!:coffee:
So you are focused on the fringe then is that right?
 
I've watched the AGW k00ks crow about the "decided science" in here for 10 years....taking bows in front of their banner. What has it netted them? Pride in a billboard!:113::113:

Since the NFL season goes full on today, the old football game analogy is in order.....

The AGW k00ks are like a team that has spent the whole game trying to move the ball but have gained just a single yard.....

:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fu:

But the coach is telling the public about how impressed he was with the effort!:hello77:
What do you mean “what has it netted them”. Progress towards a cleaner environment is never a bad thing. What damage has it caused?

Lol....their goal is 100% renewable energy. After 25 years of hysterics, wind + solar still provide America with less than 7% of our electricity.....so its netted them dick!:113:. Hysterical to me!

If that's spike the football stuff to you, well, God bless!!:coffee:
So you are focused on the fringe then is that right?


Nope.....only focused on winning!! So since the climate change industry is continually losing, that means Im continually winning!:cul2:
 
I've watched the AGW k00ks crow about the "decided science" in here for 10 years....taking bows in front of their banner. What has it netted them? Pride in a billboard!:113::113:

Since the NFL season goes full on today, the old football game analogy is in order.....

The AGW k00ks are like a team that has spent the whole game trying to move the ball but have gained just a single yard.....

:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fu:

But the coach is telling the public about how impressed he was with the effort!:hello77:
What do you mean “what has it netted them”. Progress towards a cleaner environment is never a bad thing. What damage has it caused?

Lol....their goal is 100% renewable energy. After 25 years of hysterics, wind + solar still provide America with less than 7% of our electricity.....so its netted them dick!:113:. Hysterical to me!

If that's spike the football stuff to you, well, God bless!!:coffee:
So you are focused on the fringe then is that right?


Nope.....only focused on winning!! So since the climate change industry is continually losing, that means Im continually winning!:cul2:
Continually losing?! Ok buddy. I see progress being made year after year but keep telling yourself whatever you need to feel like a winner. Sounds like you need that sort of thing.
 
I've watched the AGW k00ks crow about the "decided science" in here for 10 years....taking bows in front of their banner. What has it netted them? Pride in a billboard!:113::113:

Since the NFL season goes full on today, the old football game analogy is in order.....

The AGW k00ks are like a team that has spent the whole game trying to move the ball but have gained just a single yard.....

:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fu:

But the coach is telling the public about how impressed he was with the effort!:hello77:
What do you mean “what has it netted them”. Progress towards a cleaner environment is never a bad thing. What damage has it caused?
How is CO2 dirty air? It is life for plants, why do you hate plants so much?
 
I've watched the AGW k00ks crow about the "decided science" in here for 10 years....taking bows in front of their banner. What has it netted them? Pride in a billboard!:113::113:

Since the NFL season goes full on today, the old football game analogy is in order.....

The AGW k00ks are like a team that has spent the whole game trying to move the ball but have gained just a single yard.....

:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fu:

But the coach is telling the public about how impressed he was with the effort!:hello77:
What do you mean “what has it netted them”. Progress towards a cleaner environment is never a bad thing. What damage has it caused?
How is CO2 dirty air? It is life for plants, why do you hate plants so much?
When did I call CO2 dirty air? Lying about things I say again? Grow up
 

See.. there's the problem... Folks who don't know weather can't possibly be climate analysts... Almost EVERYTHING about intensity of weather events is predicated on "differentials", not the increase of one variable..

Winds speeds are a product of barometric differentials.. Storms have about 3 or 5 ESSENTIAL components for intensity.. They LARGELY work off temperature differentials between the SURFACE and the upper Troposphere... And they require favorable winds aloft and actually a differential between wet and dry air...

Tornadoes occur in super cells along "dry lines"... It's an essential component..

If Global Warming manifests as a warming of the ENTIRE troposphere, as it should, there would be no increased differential between surface heat and upper level temps...

So MAYBE they get a bit wetter... But FORMATION is too complex to be radically tweaked by surface temperature alone.. You'd be seeing a LENGTHENING of the hurricane season. If surface heating alone created more violent storms, the tropics would be a constant disaster zone.... And Saudi Arabia would be a garden of Eden...
 
LOL..

Three articles based on one paper that used Zeta-Joules rather than show a simple 0.001 Deg C rise and admit that our measuring devices can only get to +/- 0.01 deg C MOE. So their measurements are equal to ZERO.... Tell me again about how fast our oceans are warming.. Then show me the empirical evidence to prove it.

SOME of the oceans are warming.. There's no doubt.. The Southern Ocean really is not for example..
 

Neither you're 1st link or the Scientific American article actually TELLS you what the rate of warming is directly.. And "40% faster" than "the models"" tells you nothing.. Which model? What CO2 emission scenario was USED in that model? Where are brackets on numerical confidence for the prediction?

It's a flabby rehash of gawd knows what intended to torque the public psyche.. The only NUMBERS that even vaguely RELATED to "rate of warming" was the 1.5DegC warmer by 2100 number.. Which is LESS than the "trigger temperature" change that AOC depends on for forecasting we're all gonna die in 12 years....
 
Explain to me how current ocean temps are compared to 20 years ago, 40 years ago, 60 years ago, 80 years ago 100 years ago........ You can't. "Oceans are warming faster than predicted". Compared to what? Predicted by whom? Go through your own links and find something that even suggests that there is something out of the ordinary going on. You can't. For all you or I know this is the smallest fluctuation ever.
 

A 100% cut and past post, with ZERO explanation on WHY you post them.

Link one) Doesn't make a case for anything out of the ordinary.

Link two) Doesn't make a case for anything out of the ordinary.

Link three) Doesn't make a case for anything out of the ordinary. It does contain a flat out lie since it is the sun that provides 99.99% of the energy to warm the waters.

Here is the lie:

"Up to 90 percent of the warming caused by human carbon emissions is absorbed by the world’s oceans, scientists estimate. And researchers increasingly agree that the oceans are warming faster than previously thought."

bolding mine, where the lie is shown

No data based evidence of an increasingly warmer rate is provided, just ambiguous mention of a bunch of "studies" none linked or detailed at all. I am astounded anyone can fall for this declaration:

Summary
Climate change from human activities mainly results from the energy imbalance in Earth's climate system caused by rising concentrations of heat-trapping gases. About 93% of the energy imbalance accumulates in the ocean as increased ocean heat content (OHC).

Anytime you have so called climate scientists making statement such as this: "heat-trapping gases" then I know this is a bogus paper because CO2 doesn't absorb heat, they absorb IR.

Then we go on with this next baloney run: "About 93% of the energy imbalance accumulates in the ocean as increased ocean heat content (OHC). The ocean record of this imbalance is much less affected by internal variability and is thus better suited for detecting and attributing human influences (1) than more commonly used surface temperature records."

Imbalance is a magic word used by climate scientists who wants to make up a story that can't be substantiated, they hope uttering this is enough to fool people who have no idea that this is a made up claim.

Why? because the SUN already make up 99.99% of the inflow of energy into the waters, the other .1% are from Volcanoes, and other feeble heat sources, "backradiation" nearly ZERO!

Link four) This one is FULL of misleading claims and statements, written with some hyperbole and lacks an reference to climate history as we know it. I used to have a subscription to Scientific American years ago, but gave it up because they promote science pulpists, and propagandists of climate stuff, the hyperbole, the chronic misleading claims, the dirge of a dark future based on unverified speculation. It is a truly shitty rag today.

I find it distressing when people like YOU make a cut and past post, implying something is wrong, then run away. It is clear you have nothing cogent to offer, just another ignorant warmists is what I see in you.
 
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A 100% cut and past post, with ZERO explanation on WHY you post them.

Link one) Doesn't make a case for anything out of the ordinary.

Link two) Doesn't make a case for anything out of the ordinary.

Link three) Doesn't make a case for anything out of the ordinary. It does contain a flat out lie since it is the sun that provides 99.99% of the energy to warm the waters.

Here is the lie:

"Up to 90 percent of the warming caused by human carbon emissions is absorbed by the world’s oceans, scientists estimate. And researchers increasingly agree that the oceans are warming faster than previously thought."

bolding mine, where the lie is shown

No data based evidence of an increasingly warmer rate is provided, just ambiguous mention of a bunch of "studies" none linked or detailed at all. I am astounded anyone can fall for this declaration:

Summary
Climate change from human activities mainly results from the energy imbalance in Earth's climate system caused by rising concentrations of heat-trapping gases. About 93% of the energy imbalance accumulates in the ocean as increased ocean heat content (OHC).

Anytime you have so called climate scientists making statement such as this: "heat-trapping gases" then I know this is a bogus paper because CO2 doesn't absorb heat, they absorb IR.

Then we go on with this next baloney run: "About 93% of the energy imbalance accumulates in the ocean as increased ocean heat content (OHC). The ocean record of this imbalance is much less affected by internal variability and is thus better suited for detecting and attributing human influences (1) than more commonly used surface temperature records."

Imbalance is a magic word used by climate scientists who wants to make up a story that can't be substantiated, they hope uttering this is enough to fool people who have no idea that this is a made up claim.

Why? because the SUN already make up 99.99% of the inflow of energy into the waters, the other .1% are from Volcanoes, and other feeble heat sources, "backradiation" nearly ZERO!

Link four) This one is FULL of misleading claims and statements, written with some hyperbole and lacks an reference to climate history as we know it. I used to have a subscription to Scientific American years ago, but gave it up when they because science pulpists, and propagandists of climate stuff, the hyperbole, the chronic misleading claims, the dirge of a dark future based on unverified speculation. It is a truly shitty rag today.

I find it distressing when people like YOU make a cut and past post, implying something is wrong, then run away. It is clear you have nothing cogent to offer, just another ignorant warmists is what I see in you.
Their motto is "baffle them with bull shit". If they can throw out buzz words and a lot of smoke they think people will eat the lie up.

They think we are not capable of seeing through the crap they post up. They would be wrong...
 
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A 100% cut and past post, with ZERO explanation on WHY you post them.

Link one) Doesn't make a case for anything out of the ordinary.

Link two) Doesn't make a case for anything out of the ordinary.

Link three) Doesn't make a case for anything out of the ordinary. It does contain a flat out lie since it is the sun that provides 99.99% of the energy to warm the waters.

Here is the lie:

"Up to 90 percent of the warming caused by human carbon emissions is absorbed by the world’s oceans, scientists estimate. And researchers increasingly agree that the oceans are warming faster than previously thought."

bolding mine, where the lie is shown

No data based evidence of an increasingly warmer rate is provided, just ambiguous mention of a bunch of "studies" none linked or detailed at all. I am astounded anyone can fall for this declaration:

Summary
Climate change from human activities mainly results from the energy imbalance in Earth's climate system caused by rising concentrations of heat-trapping gases. About 93% of the energy imbalance accumulates in the ocean as increased ocean heat content (OHC).

Anytime you have so called climate scientists making statement such as this: "heat-trapping gases" then I know this is a bogus paper because CO2 doesn't absorb heat, they absorb IR.

Then we go on with this next baloney run: "About 93% of the energy imbalance accumulates in the ocean as increased ocean heat content (OHC). The ocean record of this imbalance is much less affected by internal variability and is thus better suited for detecting and attributing human influences (1) than more commonly used surface temperature records."

Imbalance is a magic word used by climate scientists who wants to make up a story that can't be substantiated, they hope uttering this is enough to fool people who have no idea that this is a made up claim.

Why? because the SUN already make up 99.99% of the inflow of energy into the waters, the other .1% are from Volcanoes, and other feeble heat sources, "backradiation" nearly ZERO!

Link four) This one is FULL of misleading claims and statements, written with some hyperbole and lacks an reference to climate history as we know it. I used to have a subscription to Scientific American years ago, but gave it up when they because science pulpists, and propagandists of climate stuff, the hyperbole, the chronic misleading claims, the dirge of a dark future based on unverified speculation. It is a truly shitty rag today.

I find it distressing when people like YOU make a cut and past post, implying something is wrong, then run away. It is clear you have nothing cogent to offer, just another ignorant warmists is what I see in you.
Their motto is "baffle them with bull shit". If they can throw out buzz words and a lot of smoke they think people will eat the lie up.

They think we are not capable of seeing through the crap they post up. They would be wrong...

I give them high marks for "caring"... But I have yet to run into a single "caring" lefty that actually UNDERSTANDS where all these dire CATASTROPHIC fears that political leaders and the media are selling actually CAME from...

And they just don't know enough about the science to even start to discuss ACTUAL NUMBERS or rates or those dire "conclusions" they consider "settled science"....

There's an effect from increasing CO2 emissions, but it's in no way "planet ending" or even as AOC and the "know-nothings" call it --- "Our World War"...
 

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