Soros: The Chinese Model Of Suppressing Individuals ...

[Ravi]

Dicca: [China's] "utopian vision" of "totalitarianism" means "life would be beautiful"

I am rather shocked that Dicca thinks this, but scratch a fascist and you often find something that looks like a communist.

 

[Newby]

The [ ] punctuation device is included as it is a reference to the article which was originally quoted. This is to distinguish the article from Soro's direct quote.

Of course! That's how you inject batshit-crazy commentary into an otherwise-direct quote and make it seem a connected thought....and sit back as the brigade eats it up like candy.

The funniest thing...Soros is warning against the Chinese model, saying it would be a bad thing overall...and these morons apparently are now going to embrace the Chinese model simply because Soros is against it.



Never underestimate the power of stupidity.

 

[boedicca]

The [ ] punctuation device is included as it is a reference to the article which was originally quoted. This is to distinguish the article from Soro's direct quote.

Of course! That's how you inject batshit-crazy commentary into an otherwise-direct quote and make it seem a connected thought....and sit back as the brigade eats it up like candy.

The funniest thing...Soros is warning against the Chinese model, saying it would be a bad thing overall...and these morons apparently are now going to embrace the Chinese model simply because Soros is against it.



Never underestimate the power of stupidity.

Keep telling yourself that, if it gives you comfort.

It's clear you have little else to provide it.

 

[Ravi]

Mr. Soros warned that China’s model of state capitalism, in which the interests of the individual are subordinated to those of the government, posed a danger if its example became “the envy of the world.”

From the link...how stupid does one have to be to not understand the words warned and posed a danger?

 

[8537]

Mr. Soros warned that China’s model of state capitalism, in which the interests of the individual are subordinated to those of the government, posed a danger if its example became “the envy of the world.”

From the link...how stupid does one have to be to not understand the words warned and posed a danger?

Well, it doesn't fit the rightwing meme so it mustn't be true. Ya see, the fact that Soros warned against China's model is undeniable evidence that Soros supports China's model.

Capisce?

 

[boedicca]

He's against the Chinese Being MORE SUCCESSFUL at centralized control than the West.

“The world does need order,” he said, “and that order needs maintenance. The idea that markets can correct their excesses turned out to be false.”

He continued: “Perfect order and global governance are not realistic expectations. However, it is a sad fact that Western democracies provide less successful leadership than China.”...

 

[midcan5]

The irony of this particular conservative diversion is the OP applies to the right wing in America already. Note the right's constant attempts to remove rights from women, impose Christianity (whatever that may be in their minds), remove family planning supports, deny gays equal rights, control education, making it supportive of corporate goals, deny workers labor rights etc etc. It always strikes me as curious that the people who use the word 'Liberty' constantly want nothing of the sort.

"The Epilogue is by George Soros, who offers his thoughts on an “Open Society Reconsidered.” Soros is no friend of current “conservative” administration, but he does argue that “both Democrats and Republicans engage in deliberate deception” even if the radical right has more money to spend and is therefore more effective at it.

I have not done justice to this collection in my brief sketches. Whether I agreed with a writer or not, upon a second reading I found the anthology even more worthwhile. Orwell struck a deep chord for good, honest journalism that he believed was necessary for human freedom. Times have changed but the need for good journalism has not." András Szántó What Orwell Didn't Know: Propaganda and the New Face of American Politics - book review by Joseph Szimhart

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[boedicca]

Oh for Pete's Sake, you are such a moron.

 

[Ravi]

Mr. Soros warned that China’s model of state capitalism, in which the interests of the individual are subordinated to those of the government, posed a danger if its example became “the envy of the world.”

From the link...how stupid does one have to be to not understand the words warned and posed a danger?

Well, it doesn't fit the rightwing meme so it mustn't be true. Ya see, the fact that Soros warned against China's model is undeniable evidence that Soros supports China's model.

Capisce?

It is kind of hard to understand the mind of a rightwinger.

Not only is he against the Chinese model, he also seems to be saddened that our lack of leadership in the west means they are getting ahead of us...I think he is correct. Our politicians spend way to much time on issues like gay sex and other ridiculous topics and not enough time on improving our economic growth.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yeah, that's what makes it so amazing. Out of context quotes, with made-up context added in by the writer of the op-ed. It sounds vague enough the the die-hards will latch on to it. It's "rallying the base". The middle-right, moderates and independents will ignore it, and the far-left will rally their base by attacking back. In a lot of ways, it's win-win for both sides.

I'm a sucker for really good rhetoric.

Anyone who listens to Soros is a fool.

He dared to call China a socialists society when everyone who's been alive knows they're a communist country.

It amazes me how people that think they're so damned smart can be so gullible.

China hasn't actually been a "Communist" country since Mao died.

They're a mixed economy, just like every other major economic power in the world. How do you think they own so much of our debt? Why do you think that everything you own says "Made in China" on it?

You don't get to be one of the fastest growing superpowers in the world by being Communist.

So, a single party state, known as the Peoples Republic of China, ruled and governed by the Communist Party of China is not Communist?

Who knew?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You libs and your intellectual dishonesty never cease to amaze me.

 

[boedicca]

From the link...how stupid does one have to be to not understand the words warned and posed a danger?

Well, it doesn't fit the rightwing meme so it mustn't be true. Ya see, the fact that Soros warned against China's model is undeniable evidence that Soros supports China's model.

Capisce?

It is kind of hard to understand the mind of a rightwinger.

Not only is he against the Chinese model, he also seems to be saddened that our lack of leadership in the west means they are getting ahead of us...I think he is correct. Our politicians spend way to much time on issues like gay sex and other ridiculous topics and not enough time on improving our economic growth.

He's not against the Chinese Model - he's against them providing better centralized control over their country than Western Democracies are able to do over theirs.

He's jealous.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Is -batshit- really crazy? "Batshit crazy"?

Another, "going forward". Movement forward is already implied. There's no need for redundancy.

As for China, yes, they suppress their people. They open up little by little but chairman mao is still considered the revolutionary to the elites in their current government.

 

[AquaAthena]

Well, at least he's being honest in expressing his value system:

Soros: The Chinese Model Of Suppressing Individuals Could Become The Envy Of The World

Apparently, Soros is considering the possibility that people might some day want to be censored and live in a socialist society like China's.

He said yesterday at the Traveller’s Club in Paris, according to Dealbook:

“The world does need order, and that order needs maintenance. The idea that markets can correct their excesses turned out to be false.

“Perfect order and global governance are not realistic expectations. However, it is a sad fact that Western democracies provide less successful leadership than China.”

"[China’s model of state capitalism, in which the interests of the individual are subordinated to those of the government, pose a danger if its example becomes] “the envy of the world.”...

Soros: The Chinese Model Of Suppressing Individuals Could Become The Envy Of The World


Soros is one of the big bankrollers of the Democrats and financed a large portion of Obama's 2008 campaign. This quote certainly puts "net neutrality" in perspective.

Lefties: your "good intentions" and utopian vision are leading us down the highway to totalitarianism. It's time for you to grow up and wake up.

"This would be the time’ because I think you really need to bring China into the creation of a new world order, financial world order. I think you need a new world order, that China has to be part of the process of creating it and they have to buy in, they have to own it in the same way as the United States owns … the current order." – Financial Times in 2009, when asked what Obama should discuss with the Chinese

" I give away something up to $500 million a year throughout the world promoting Open Society. My foundations support people in the country who care about an open society. It’s their work that I’m supporting. So it’s not me doing it.

The Desk of Brian » George Soros Quotes (UPD: FOX, Beck are Nazis & Tea Partiers are deceived)

 

[Ravi]

Right...Soros loves communism that is why he has spent much of his life donating money to anti-communist groups.

Sometimes I think you Beck groupies are just as stupid as Alex jones groupies.

Well, that's a lie. I always do.

 

[8537]

Anyone who listens to Soros is a fool.

He dared to call China a socialists society when everyone who's been alive knows they're a communist country.

It amazes me how people that think they're so damned smart can be so gullible.

China hasn't actually been a "Communist" country since Mao died.

They're a mixed economy, just like every other major economic power in the world. How do you think they own so much of our debt? Why do you think that everything you own says "Made in China" on it?

You don't get to be one of the fastest growing superpowers in the world by being Communist.

So, a single party state, known as the Peoples Republic of China, ruled and governed by the Communist Party of China is not Communist?

Who knew?

in other news, a country known as the German Democratic Republic wasn't democratic!

China is a mixed economy with about 40% of it's GDP coming from the private sector. It's not a communist country in the economic sense, nor has it been since Mao left.

 

[8537]

Right...Soros loves communism that is why he has spent much of his life donating money to anti-communist groups.

Sometimes I think you Beck groupies are just as stupid as Alex jones groupies.

Well, that's a lie. I always do.

That's not fair to Alex Jones

 

[editec]

Whoever came up with the idea for this new brand Conservative tabloid sensationalism deserves a fucking award. Pure propaganda political genius. It's incredible.

Call it professional respect.

Dr. Goebbels may have died, but his spirit lives on.

 

[boedicca]

Right...Soros loves communism that is why he has spent much of his life donating money to anti-communist groups.

Sometimes I think you Beck groupies are just as stupid as Alex jones groupies.

Well, that's a lie. I always do.

I didn't say he loves communism...he loves control over the economy.

Which is what he has spent his life doing in the West...but he now sees the Chinese being more effective at it, which cuts into his game.

 

[mudwhistle]

Right...Soros loves communism that is why he has spent much of his life donating money to anti-communist groups.

Sometimes I think you Beck groupies are just as stupid as Alex jones groupies.

Well, that's a lie. I always do.

Soros makes money from destroying economies through various financial tools. He knows the damage communism does to capitalist countries.