Some wars need to be fought

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Some wars need to be fought

If we would have not got into the Revolutionary war... ....would that have worked well?

If we would have stayed out of World War II...........would that have worked well?

According to the liberals leader Obama, the war with Iraq was a war of choice and it worked well getting rid of Saddam.

So, when Obama says we don't want to meddle in with Iran, tells us that the liberals don't really understand that some wars need to be fought. Their analogy is that don't confront that mad-man because we don't want to make them mad at us.
 
Some wars need to be fought

If we would have not got into the Revolutionary war... ....would that have worked well?

If we would have stayed out of World War II...........would that have worked well?

According to the liberals leader Obama, the war with Iraq was a war of choice and it worked well getting rid of Saddam.

So, when Obama says we don't want to meddle in with Iran, tells us that the liberals don't really understand that some wars need to be fought. Their analogy is that don't confront that mad-man because we don't want to make them mad at us.

It's a tad more complicated than that.
:cuckoo:
 
Some wars need to be fought

If we would have not got into the Revolutionary war... ....would that have worked well?

If we would have stayed out of World War II...........would that have worked well?

According to the liberals leader Obama, the war with Iraq was a war of choice and it worked well getting rid of Saddam.

So, when Obama says we don't want to meddle in with Iran, tells us that the liberals don't really understand that some wars need to be fought. Their analogy is that don't confront that mad-man because we don't want to make them mad at us.

Apples and oranges.

The wars are not comparable.
 
do you truly believe that we, the USA alone, should send our men and women to die in droves... in a war with a heavily armed, militaristic iran, because of all of this going on in their country with their election?

what are you, empirialistic and cold as ice at the same time? No one in our military should be forced to fight and die in a war that has nothing to do with our own imminent danger or safety imo!

THE rebellion WITHIN this country, IS the BEGINNING of well needed change, that THEY WANT....the beginnings of a revolution....that will some day, play out.
 
Some wars need to be fought

If we would have not got into the Revolutionary war... ....would that have worked well?

If we would have stayed out of World War II...........would that have worked well?

According to the liberals leader Obama, the war with Iraq was a war of choice and it worked well getting rid of Saddam.

So, when Obama says we don't want to meddle in with Iran, tells us that the liberals don't really understand that some wars need to be fought. Their analogy is that don't confront that mad-man because we don't want to make them mad at us.

or mabey presscott could just not of bank rolled the nazis in the first place

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D6fxyOtVeI]YouTube - bush prescott nazi connection[/ame]
 
do you truly believe that we, the USA alone, should send our men and women to die in droves... in a war with a heavily armed, militaristic iran, because of all of this going on in their country with their election?

what are you, empirialistic and cold as ice at the same time? No one in our military should be forced to fight and die in a war that has nothing to do with our own imminent danger or safety imo!

THE rebellion WITHIN this country, IS the BEGINNING of well needed change, that THEY WANT....the beginnings of a revolution....that will some day, play out.

And therein lies the key: what they want.

It may surprise many Americans but most Iranians actually want their Islamic Republic - they just want a loosening of restrictions and fair elections.
 
Some wars need to be fought

If we would have not got into the Revolutionary war... ....would that have worked well?

If we would have stayed out of World War II...........would that have worked well?

According to the liberals leader Obama, the war with Iraq was a war of choice and it worked well getting rid of Saddam.

So, when Obama says we don't want to meddle in with Iran, tells us that the liberals don't really understand that some wars need to be fought. Their analogy is that don't confront that mad-man because we don't want to make them mad at us.

Apples and oranges.

The wars are not comparable.

Exactly.
 
Have fun reinstating the draft, raise taxes to the brim, incur an extra few trillion dollars of debt, and sending 2 million Americans into the hills of Iran... IN THE MIDDLE OF RECESSION.
 
We need not fight a war with Iran, Iran can be contained with the every country that supplies Iran with components for its ambitions comming to the table and sending a coherent message. When you have nations like Russia, China, N. Korea, and many others that do business with Iran and look the other way in exchange for hard cash and then block efforts to sanction Iran for its activities thats the real issue. The Iranian people are for the most part young, well educated, and western friendly, but they wish to choose their own form of Govt. and it would not serve the United States well to enter into any combat with Iran all because of the mouth that runs the nation. Our best approach would be to support FULLY the people that wish to choose their own leaders and at the same time condemn those would supply the materials to make weapons they supply the world over to terrorist groups. As for the comment of spending during a time of war and costing trillions, we don't need a war for that, we have TARP, the bailout, and healthcare which is going to take care of that anyway.
 
Some wars need to be fought

If we would have not got into the Revolutionary war... ....would that have worked well?

If we would have stayed out of World War II...........would that have worked well?

According to the liberals leader Obama, the war with Iraq was a war of choice and it worked well getting rid of Saddam.

So, when Obama says we don't want to meddle in with Iran, tells us that the liberals don't really understand that some wars need to be fought. Their analogy is that don't confront that mad-man because we don't want to make them mad at us.

One thing I am so tired of hearing, is armchair warriors telling us we need another war. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Get yourself enlisted, pull on a uniform, then go spouting off about how much you want a war. Otherwise, STFU about it!
 
Having a war with Iran is not in America's best interest.

It is in Israel's best interest.

But saddly, many people here think that what is best for Israel, is somehow best for America.

We need to divorce ourselves from that mindset and concentrate on what's best only for America. Period.
 
Some wars need to be fought

If we would have not got into the Revolutionary war... ....would that have worked well?

If we would have stayed out of World War II...........would that have worked well?

According to the liberals leader Obama, the war with Iraq was a war of choice and it worked well getting rid of Saddam.

So, when Obama says we don't want to meddle in with Iran, tells us that the liberals don't really understand that some wars need to be fought. Their analogy is that don't confront that mad-man because we don't want to make them mad at us.

It's a tad more complicated than that.
:cuckoo:
Lots want the US to meddle, but this is first one honest enough to suggest we declare war on Iran. LOL
 
I'm not convinced there's been a war since the Revolutionary War that we've needed to fight.
 
IMHO, we have become a country of paper tigers because although we have the might, we are afraid to use it when it would save American lives.

In WW1, and WW2, we used everything we had to win those wars, but when it came to Korea we were lax and never took the offensive by destroying North Korea until they surrendered, but instead refused to cross the 28 parallel, and fired the general in charge because he wanted to win the war. That mistake left us to deal with a nuclear capable North Korea today.

During Vietnam, we dropped enough explosive to destroy every living thing in North Vietnam, but we did not drop them where they would do the most harm, we just destroy lots of jungle, and left Haiphong harbor, along with the major population centers, intact in lieu of destroying them.

Evidently it was not politically correct to actually attempt to win that war the same most other wars were won, by destroying the enemy until they were unable to continue.

I sometimes wonder what would have happened if we had been afraid to destroy population centers in Germany and Japan, during previous wars, and how many more Americans would have died because of it.

Just for information, the US soldier did not loose the war in Vietnam, it was lost in Washington. The largest offense by the VC was, in contrast to what the media led the public to believe, was a major US victory with hundreds of VC killed for each American life lost.
 
IMHO, we have become a country of paper tigers because although we have the might, we are afraid to use it when it would save American lives.

In WW1, and WW2, we used everything we had to win those wars, but when it came to Korea we were lax and never took the offensive by destroying North Korea until they surrendered, but instead refused to cross the 28 parallel, and fired the general in charge because he wanted to win the war. That mistake left us to deal with a nuclear capable North Korea today.

During Vietnam, we dropped enough explosive to destroy every living thing in North Vietnam, but we did not drop them where they would do the most harm, we just destroy lots of jungle, and left Haiphong harbor, along with the major population centers, intact in lieu of destroying them.

Evidently it was not politically correct to actually attempt to win that war the same most other wars were won, by destroying the enemy until they were unable to continue.

I sometimes wonder what would have happened if we had been afraid to destroy population centers in Germany and Japan, during previous wars, and how many more Americans would have died because of it.

Just for information, the US soldier did not loose the war in Vietnam, it was lost in Washington. The largest offense by the VC was, in contrast to what the media led the public to believe, was a major US victory with hundreds of VC killed for each American life lost.

Well, had we not intervened in WW1 in the first place then WW2 may have been avoided. We should never have entered Korea or Vietnam in the first place, so it shouldn't have been necessary for us to call a truce with North Korea or to leave Vietnam.
 
I'm not convinced there's been a war since the Revolutionary War that we've needed to fight.

Well, nobody ever really needs to fight a war, do they? It all comes down to whether one considers one's way of life to be valuable enough to fight for, or whether one considers allies to be expendable.

America is defended primarily not by any super-weapon, missile or plane. It is defended by several thousand miles of water, making the invasion of America extremely unlikely until foreign powers are able to 'beam' armies to their desired combat zone a la Star Trek. As such, one has to ask where one draws the line. Is it, for example, planes flying into the WTC? Or planes bombing Pearl Harbor? Nether event in isolation is going to result in the USA being overrun.

As I said, nobody needs to fight a war. It is always possible to capitulate instantly to the demands of anyone who is more militaristically minded. Like the Brits were 200 years ago.
 
So, when Obama says we don't want to meddle in with Iran, tells us that the liberals don't really understand that some wars need to be fought. Their analogy is that don't confront that mad-man because we don't want to make them mad at us.

I think some trigger-happy "conservatives" should understand that not every war has to be fought.

FFS, if America has had trouble taming Iraq, it will be 10x worse in Iran.
 
I'm not convinced there's been a war since the Revolutionary War that we've needed to fight.

Well, nobody ever really needs to fight a war, do they? It all comes down to whether one considers one's way of life to be valuable enough to fight for, or whether one considers allies to be expendable.

America is defended primarily not by any super-weapon, missile or plane. It is defended by several thousand miles of water, making the invasion of America extremely unlikely until foreign powers are able to 'beam' armies to their desired combat zone a la Star Trek. As such, one has to ask where one draws the line. Is it, for example, planes flying into the WTC? Or planes bombing Pearl Harbor? Nether event in isolation is going to result in the USA being overrun.

As I said, nobody needs to fight a war. It is always possible to capitulate instantly to the demands of anyone who is more militaristically minded. Like the Brits were 200 years ago.

I'm not convinced our way of life has been threatened since the Revolutionary War.
 
Some wars need to be fought

If we would have not got into the Revolutionary war... ....would that have worked well?

If we would have stayed out of World War II...........would that have worked well?

According to the liberals leader Obama, the war with Iraq was a war of choice and it worked well getting rid of Saddam.

So, when Obama says we don't want to meddle in with Iran, tells us that the liberals don't really understand that some wars need to be fought. Their analogy is that don't confront that mad-man because we don't want to make them mad at us.

or mabey presscott could just not of bank rolled the nazis in the first place

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D6fxyOtVeI]YouTube - bush prescott nazi connection[/ame]
Thanks for the YouTube piece video on the Bush family.
 

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