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DKSuddeth said:guilty by association or proximity, right?
OCA said:Absolutely. If you are with or next to someone who is committing a crime or knowingly withold information which I believe could be the case with some of these roaches then I feel no guilt or remorse for their treatment. The fact remains if these people had not been in cahoots with or proximity to the bad guys the chances are they would not be in custody.
This is war, there are no civil right protections to illegal detainment(I don't care what the Geneva Convention says)
Pale Rider said:I spent eight years in the Air Force jar, and I'm a 60% service connected disabled veteran.
With that in mind, you wonder would I have ratted out my fellow servicemen? Well, I might have tried to point out that what we were doing wasn't right, and MAY get us in trouble. But rat them out? Not just no, but HELL NO!!
Pale Rider said:So a couple of them had to wear their underwear on their head and pile on their brother naked. Well boo fucking hoo. That's a fucking tea party compared to getting your HEAD SAWED OFF! And you want me to be the one to help these animals?
Not on your life.
DKSuddeth said:should we apply that methodology in our own country as well?
Merlin1047 said:Let's say that I fully understand where you're coming from and I do not entirely disagree with your sentiment. I'm pragmatic enough to accept some "abuse" of prisoners in the form of humiliation, sleep deprivation etc provided that some purpose is served by those actions. For example, the LTC who fired a round from his pistol near a prisoner's head and thereby gained valuable intelligence which may well have saved many American lives. Personally, that doesn't even qualify as "abuse" in my book, but somehow a lot of brass got their butts up on their shoulders over that one.
If being tough on prisoners extracts information which will shorten the war and save the lives of our service people, then I have no problem with it provided it does not descend to the level of outright torture.
But we should not make excuses for nor condone the actions of those who mistreat prisoners for no purpose other than their own sadistic entertainment.
OCA said:The thing is though has it ever been proven that these soldiers did what they did for their own "sadistic reasons? Or was it just assumed?
Pale Rider said:I spent eight years in the Air Force jar, and I'm a 60% service connected disabled veteran.
With that in mind, you wonder would I have ratted out my fellow servicemen? Well, I might have tried to point out that what we were doing wasn't right, and MAY get us in trouble. But rat them out? Not just no, but HELL NO!!
Bullypulpit said:To remain silent in the face of evil is to condone it. That's how Hitler came to power and the Holocaust came to pass...Remaining silent in the face of evil. You're pathetic.
OCA said:There it is! When you have nothing important or useful to say hit em with the Hitler and evil comments, bravo Bully!
Bullypulpit said:"...<b>some people are real assholes</b>..."
OCA, you are a living, breathing example of the threads header.
OCA said:My condolences to your parents, it must be a real burden to them knowing they unleashed you on society, the shame must be overwhelming.
OCA said:My condolences to your parents, it must be a real burden to them knowing they unleashed you on society, the shame must be overwhelming.
nakedemperor said:
Bullypulpit said:Obviously projecting your own inferiority complex and insecurities on others.
Bullypulpit said:Yeah, time to put out the flame-thrower...
OCA said:Yeah go to the psychobabble b.s. when you have nothing better to say. Why don't you take a hike Bully and quit blowing smoke up everyone's ass. Go crawl back into the loser sewer from whence you came. Or should I post that classy p.m. you sent me about 10 minutes ago? Be advised I don't give a fuck tonight.