Some NFL stadiums appear empth, is the boycott working?

Probably the latter... a lot of these teams suck and no one wants to pay $300 to see them.

But you keep pretending that these protests that have you soooo upset are the reason.

Why were they willing to pay the same money just a few years ago?

The country has changed politically and people are not taking it anymore. The election of Trump empowers people to realize, they can make a change if they don't like what is going on. Regardless of Trumps successes themselves, it's an important moment in American democracy.

The NFL protest backlash is just another example of how even diehard fans are deciding it's best to lose out on the enjoyment of their sport to make a point rather than to just happily go along even in the face of such kneeling to the anthem. It's important to take a stand in support of your values, these values define a nation.
 
Probably the latter... a lot of these teams suck and no one wants to pay $300 to see them.

But you keep pretending that these protests that have you soooo upset are the reason.

Let's see they were full last year , not so much this year..what changed Einstein?
 
Probably the latter... a lot of these teams suck and no one wants to pay $300 to see them.

But you keep pretending that these protests that have you soooo upset are the reason.
What a jackass. The guy said he didn't know if it was the protests or not and then you spew out your lie. You are disgusting.
 
Why were they willing to pay the same money just a few years ago?

The country has changed politically and people are not taking it anymore. The election of Trump empowers people to realize, they can make a change if they don't like what is going on. Regardless of Trumps successes themselves, it's an important moment in American democracy.

You mean the moment it failed because Americans started hating their fellow Americans more than they love the country? Yeah, I guess it's important if we can't recover from it.

The NFL protest backlash is just another example of how even diehard fans are deciding it's best to lose out on the enjoyment of their sport to make a point rather than to just happily go along even in the face of such kneeling to the anthem. It's important to take a stand in support of your values, these values define a nation.

So being okay with cops shooting black kids is a 'value' now?
 
Why were they willing to pay the same money just a few years ago?

The country has changed politically and people are not taking it anymore. The election of Trump empowers people to realize, they can make a change if they don't like what is going on. Regardless of Trumps successes themselves, it's an important moment in American democracy.

You mean the moment it failed because Americans started hating their fellow Americans more than they love the country? Yeah, I guess it's important if we can't recover from it.

The NFL protest backlash is just another example of how even diehard fans are deciding it's best to lose out on the enjoyment of their sport to make a point rather than to just happily go along even in the face of such kneeling to the anthem. It's important to take a stand in support of your values, these values define a nation.

So being okay with cops shooting black kids is a 'value' now?

Of course not. If it is a trigger happy cop doing so without just cause, it's a crime. Obviously, if it's a case of it being justified, an armed man not following orders etc, well NO amount of kneeling is going to change how law enforcement will deal with such circumstances. Deal with the bad apples and lax accountability, but do so outside of work.

This isn't about the desire for a fair and honest justice system, everyone wants that, this is about the method in which to express this unhappiness. It's not helpful, and it offends many people. People don't go to the football games for politics, nor to watch their flag and anthem disrespected by the very people they are paying to watch. That's not entertainment.

If they respond by tuning out, that's the cost of whatever it is these guys are trying to achieve. The league is operating as America as a nation has the last few decades, giving away their advantages to be politically correct and/or unwilling to confront the abuses head on. I imagine all the other sports love that this is happening to the NFL, it might lead to some converts.

Oh, and now there are even questions about tax breaks given to these owners. Can you imagine how MASSIVE a personal cost it would be to the owners if the public keep pressing this issue?

Stand for the anthem and the flag. A small sacrifice to make for those risking their lives for their freedoms.
 
Of course not. If it is a trigger happy cop doing so without just cause, it's a crime.

I agree, it is. But then you have cases like Tamir Rice, Philandro Castille, Michael Brown, where cops are shooting unarmed black folks and being either not charged or let off.

Obviously, if it's a case of it being justified, an armed man not following orders etc, well NO amount of kneeling is going to change how law enforcement will deal with such circumstances. Deal with the bad apples and lax accountability, but do so outside of work.

Okay, let's look at that. Let's look how cops handled a white man carrying an AR-15 in public, and how they dealt with a person of color.



This isn't about the desire for a fair and honest justice system, everyone wants that, this is about the method in which to express this unhappiness. It's not helpful, and it offends many people. People don't go to the football games for politics, nor to watch their flag and anthem disrespected by the very people they are paying to watch. That's not entertainment.

I'm not sure everyone wants that. It seems that if you have 46% of people voting for a racist POS like Trump, a lot of white people are more scared of the Darkies than wanting to see fair play.

Oh, and now there are even questions about tax breaks given to these owners. Can you imagine how MASSIVE a personal cost it would be to the owners if the public keep pressing this issue?

The tax breaks are given because these teams produce revenues for their cities. Revoke them, they'll move somewhere else where they'd be just as happy to give them tax breaks.

Stand for the anthem and the flag. A small sacrifice to make for those risking their lives for their freedoms.

It seems to me one of those freedoms would be to not stand for the flag or the anthem if you don't want to.
 
Of course not. If it is a trigger happy cop doing so without just cause, it's a crime.

I agree, it is. But then you have cases like Tamir Rice, Philandro Castille, Michael Brown, where cops are shooting unarmed black folks and being either not charged or let off.

Obviously, if it's a case of it being justified, an armed man not following orders etc, well NO amount of kneeling is going to change how law enforcement will deal with such circumstances. Deal with the bad apples and lax accountability, but do so outside of work.

Okay, let's look at that. Let's look how cops handled a white man carrying an AR-15 in public, and how they dealt with a person of color.



This isn't about the desire for a fair and honest justice system, everyone wants that, this is about the method in which to express this unhappiness. It's not helpful, and it offends many people. People don't go to the football games for politics, nor to watch their flag and anthem disrespected by the very people they are paying to watch. That's not entertainment.

I'm not sure everyone wants that. It seems that if you have 46% of people voting for a racist POS like Trump, a lot of white people are more scared of the Darkies than wanting to see fair play.

Oh, and now there are even questions about tax breaks given to these owners. Can you imagine how MASSIVE a personal cost it would be to the owners if the public keep pressing this issue?

The tax breaks are given because these teams produce revenues for their cities. Revoke them, they'll move somewhere else where they'd be just as happy to give them tax breaks.

Stand for the anthem and the flag. A small sacrifice to make for those risking their lives for their freedoms.

It seems to me one of those freedoms would be to not stand for the flag or the anthem if you don't want to.



Your posting an edited video as proof?


 
Why were they willing to pay the same money just a few years ago?

The country has changed politically and people are not taking it anymore. The election of Trump empowers people to realize, they can make a change if they don't like what is going on. Regardless of Trumps successes themselves, it's an important moment in American democracy.

You mean the moment it failed because Americans started hating their fellow Americans more than they love the country? Yeah, I guess it's important if we can't recover from it.

The NFL protest backlash is just another example of how even diehard fans are deciding it's best to lose out on the enjoyment of their sport to make a point rather than to just happily go along even in the face of such kneeling to the anthem. It's important to take a stand in support of your values, these values define a nation.

So being okay with cops shooting black kids is a 'value' now?
Another black man is more of threa
 
Probably the latter... a lot of these teams suck and no one wants to pay $300 to see them.

But you keep pretending that these protests that have you soooo upset are the reason.




Optics Joe. Don't matter what the reason it, but judging by the fact that you had to defend the protest shows that you really don't believe what your saying about it..
 
Why were they willing to pay the same money just a few years ago?

The country has changed politically and people are not taking it anymore. The election of Trump empowers people to realize, they can make a change if they don't like what is going on. Regardless of Trumps successes themselves, it's an important moment in American democracy.

You mean the moment it failed because Americans started hating their fellow Americans more than they love the country? Yeah, I guess it's important if we can't recover from it.

The NFL protest backlash is just another example of how even diehard fans are deciding it's best to lose out on the enjoyment of their sport to make a point rather than to just happily go along even in the face of such kneeling to the anthem. It's important to take a stand in support of your values, these values define a nation.

So being okay with cops shooting black kids is a 'value' now?

Jaboni's killing other Jaboni's appears to be a value...why wouldn't
a cop doing it be a value?

It can only make the country better.
 
Of course not. If it is a trigger happy cop doing so without just cause, it's a crime.

I agree, it is. But then you have cases like Tamir Rice, Philandro Castille, Michael Brown, where cops are shooting unarmed black folks and being either not charged or let off.

Obviously, if it's a case of it being justified, an armed man not following orders etc, well NO amount of kneeling is going to change how law enforcement will deal with such circumstances. Deal with the bad apples and lax accountability, but do so outside of work.

Okay, let's look at that. Let's look how cops handled a white man carrying an AR-15 in public, and how they dealt with a person of color.



This isn't about the desire for a fair and honest justice system, everyone wants that, this is about the method in which to express this unhappiness. It's not helpful, and it offends many people. People don't go to the football games for politics, nor to watch their flag and anthem disrespected by the very people they are paying to watch. That's not entertainment.

I'm not sure everyone wants that. It seems that if you have 46% of people voting for a racist POS like Trump, a lot of white people are more scared of the Darkies than wanting to see fair play.

Oh, and now there are even questions about tax breaks given to these owners. Can you imagine how MASSIVE a personal cost it would be to the owners if the public keep pressing this issue?

The tax breaks are given because these teams produce revenues for their cities. Revoke them, they'll move somewhere else where they'd be just as happy to give them tax breaks.

Stand for the anthem and the flag. A small sacrifice to make for those risking their lives for their freedoms.

It seems to me one of those freedoms would be to not stand for the flag or the anthem if you don't want to.



Then the deflection. Pay attention y'all, your watching Joe flail.
 

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