‘Socialism Does Not Work’: President Trump Supporter Confronts Crazy Bernie At Iowa Campaign Event

[Andylusion]

i love this guy!

'Socialism Does Not Work': Trump Supporter Confronts Sanders At Campaign Event

So...I'm sure he will nobly turn down Social Security and Medicare since they are socialism.

I've never understood this comment from left-wingers.

If you give me money to live on.... why would I not take it? Sure you paying for my life, will eventually cause you to go bankrupt, but until that happens, I'll take every dollar you give me. That's your fault for offering to pay for my life. Has nothing to do with me. I'm simply accepting the money you are willing to give out.

Again, Venezuela... they did all this, and the result was the country imploded, and people are eating their pet dog and cat to survive a little longer.

Millions of people already left the country almost a decade ago. Them leaving... and not taking the socialist hand outs, didn't change the fact that socialism eventually fails. So whether we take every dollar from Social Security and Medicare until they go broke, or we don't... doesn't change that both will go broke. So there is no reason we shouldn't take whatever we can get, until the system fails.

It's going to fail no matter what we do, because socials has always failed, is failing, and will fail in the future.

I'll take every dollar you are willing to give me, until you are impoverished like those in France.

"socialism eventually fails"

sigh.....

the happiest countries in the world are SOCIAL democracies;

Norway, Finland, Denmark,


In fact....here are the top 20 (note the US position)

1

Finland 7.769 1.340 1.587 0.986 0.596 0.153 0.393
2

Denmark 7.600 1.383 1.573 0.996 0.592 0.252 0.410
3

Norway 7.554 1.488 1.582 1.028 0.603 0.271 0.341
4

Iceland 7.494 1.380 1.624 1.026 0.591 0.354 0.118
5

Netherlands 7.488 1.396 1.522 0.999 0.557 0.322 0.298
6

Switzerland 7.480 1.452 1.526 1.052 0.572 0.263 0.343
7

Sweden 7.343 1.387 1.487 1.009 0.574 0.267 0.373
8

New Zealand 7.307 1.303 1.557 1.026 0.585 0.330 0.380
9

Canada 7.278 1.365 1.505 1.039 0.584 0.285 0.308
10

Austria 7.246 1.376 1.475 1.016 0.532 0.244 0.226
11

Australia 7.228 1.372 1.548 1.036 0.557 0.332 0.290
12

Costa Rica 7.167 1.034 1.441 0.963 0.558 0.144 0.093
13

Israel 7.139 1.276 1.455 1.029 0.371 0.261 0.082
14

Luxembourg 7.090 1.609 1.479 1.012 0.526 0.194 0.316
15

United Kingdom 7.054 1.333 1.538 0.996 0.450 0.348 0.278
16

Ireland 7.021 1.499 1.553 0.999 0.516 0.298 0.310
17

Germany 6.985 1.373 1.454 0.987 0.495 0.261 0.265
18

Belgium 6.923 1.356 1.504 0.986 0.473 0.160 0.210
19

United States 6.892 1.433 1.457 0.874 0.454 0.280 0.128
20

Czech Republic

YOU keep FORCING US to discuss Venezuala and Cuba....

but we don't want to be like those countries....

we don't want COMMUNIST socialism

We want everything we have NOW that YOU DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT (police, military, fire dept , roads, social security)
plus we'd like AFFORDABLE (not FREE not FREE not FREE NOT FKN FREE) AFFORDABLE Healthcare and Education.

like Norway
and Finland


NOT like Venezuela

Why can't you understand that?

what the fuk is wrong with you that you can't talk about Norway or Finland but MUST ONLY DISCUSS the evils of Venezuela?

Why do you keep claiming that those countries are socialist, when even those country deny they are socialist?

Why do your fellow travellers and the OP keep claiming that Bernie Sanders is a "socialist" when he self-describes as a Democratic Socialist?

See how that works?

Having it both ways: Priceless.

Because there is zero difference between the two.

You are asking "Why are you calling bright red, red?" Um... because putting it near a light, doesn't change the color. Red, is red, whether it is bright, dark, neon, or any other flavor of red.

Socialism, is still socialism, whether the person implementing it was given authority by vote, or by birth.
See how that works?

Failing to realize the flaw of your own argument: Priceless.

 

[OKTexas]

i love this guy!

Of course you do. Anything that disrupts a discussion you cream your jeans, doncha.

Does it not even occur to you that the statement in your title doesn't even appear in the video? Or are you just too stupid to check it?

You commies set the rules, don't cry when we play by them.

.

 

[OKTexas]

the WHOLE FKN POINT of CAPITALISM is EXCESSIVE GREED and ENVY.....

Ah, but I'll bet you're never greedy or envious are you. No, just the other guy.

"Ah, but I'll bet you're never greedy or envious are you. No, just the other guy"

I see.

Incapable of civil debate (conservatives) you immediately resort to personal attacks and lies.

I am NOT a greedy person.

YOU are an ABOMINABLE LIAR for suggesting it!

I don't know you and you don't fkn know me!

I have no idea if YOU are greedy or not but I do know you MAKE UP LIES and ATTACK DECENT PEOPLE with them.

I own a small house
a small yard
2 vehicles for my wife and I
a dog and 2 cats
I donated 4 years of my life working for a large local charity; picking up, cleaning, repairing, packing, boxing, dump runs, organizing the actual rummage sale, tents, tables, electricity, volunteers

I BOUGHT stuff at yard sales to DONATE TO THE FKN CHARITY so they make a little more money from it.
I BOUGHT bags of books (on bag day) from OTHER book sales to add to our stock in our sale

When I buy a 6 dollar hamburger I leave a $4 tip

I OVER tipped a waitress once (as I generally do) and one of my companions, seeing the excess, said "that's too much!", proceeded to PICK UP the fkn tip and put it in his fkn pocket!
I put more down, told him to leave it alone.

This thread is about SOCIALISM and whether it works or not.

it is not about YOU making FALSE claims about people who are OBVIOUSLY much better than you.


SOME FKN SOCIALISM (yspos) IS GOOD!

roads, schools, fire dept, police, social security...


and THAT does NOT make me GREEDY

The fact that you even think that makes YOU.......well....I'm too much of a gentleman to say what you are......

Aw, virtue signaling, a true sign of a commie. LMAO

.

 

[Andylusion]

Check your own hypocrisy.

I have always been of the mindset that a candidate on the stump is trying to convey his or her beliefs and values so that the people can make a choice. You sit and listen, you do NOT debate their beliefs. You accept them or reject them.

A politician in a town hall meeting is a different animal. The Politician is there to listen to the people and when the politician tries to quibble or spin his or her position, the audience has every right to confront, challenge and even shout down the politician.

It all comes down to setting and purpose. So take your hypocrisy and shove it up your ass.

Far too many left leaning people think they have a right to silence anyone who is speaking they disagree with, in any situation.

Agreed. Far too many right leaning people also.

Where are those people?
I don't see right leaning people doing that.

The Radical right shouted and harassed Don jr and that washed of FOX chick right off the stage in California (maybe Berkley?) about a month ago. There is Too much of "shout the SOB down" on both sides. When the right wing does it, it doesn't make FOX news most of the time. If right wing sources are all you see and listen to, you've probably missed.

I've never watched Fox News.

So there is a nut case named Nick Fuentes, and his group is targeting conservatives.

Antifa, and the left-wing radicals are targeting conservatives.

When I say I don't see right-leaning people do that, I mean as a group.

Yes, there are individual nut cases that engage in disruption. Sure.

But from what I've read about this Nick Fuentes, is that he is just insane. If half of what I've read that he has said, is accurate, then he's a just a flat out nut job.

I don't see his views reflected in Conservatism anywhere... which is why some of his posts are all about how conservatives are fake. Because conservatives don't believe 90% of what he's said.

When I say I don't see right-wing people doing this, I mean from a mainstream point of view.

I see mainstream people who have openly supported the actions of Antifa to engage in violence, the opposite of this Nick Fuentes who is a fringe and marginalized right-wing person.

I don't see Ann Coulter supporting Nick Fuentes. I don't see Tucker Carlson supporting Nick either.

I do see professors at universities, openly support violence.



Prof wanted to fight Ben Shapiro; students want him promoted

The left-wing in this country, is openly directly supporting censorship of conservative views. Openly supporting violence.

Even in Charlottesville.... no matter how you cut it... there have been numerous protests pushing to remove confederate statues, and you don't see mass right-wing protests attacking them.

But when the right-wing has a protest to protect their history, the left-wing comes and does not just have a counter protest, but is violently attacking them.

And even when some far-right nutters respond to this instigation, by running people over... did you see right-wing conservatives supporting this? Did you see them with posts saying this was good, the way you see left-wingers promoting "punch a fascist"

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What kind of pro-violence, anti-debate rhetoric is being promoted, by which side?

Left-wing. You don't see this being promoted by conservative professors, or by conservative churches anywhere.

I think most professors are too smart to be conservative right now. The conservatives are really confused. Remember when leading by executive order was bad? When they wanted a balanced budget? When they believe in free trade? I don't think professors can flop around in the wind like that.

None of those things have changed. I can think of dozens of conservative commentators, who are all still against leading by executive order, still in favor of a balanced budget, still believe in free trade.

Nothing has changed in the core conservative principals.

The only thing that has changed, is that some left-wingers, are now Trump supporters. Tons of Trumps support has come from blue collar workers, that typically would be Union supporter, trade hating people, that for a long time were almost exclusively Democraps.

Very few are former conservatives, that flipped on things.

 

[anynameyouwish]

the WHOLE FKN POINT of CAPITALISM is EXCESSIVE GREED and ENVY.....

Ah, but I'll bet you're never greedy or envious are you. No, just the other guy.

"Ah, but I'll bet you're never greedy or envious are you. No, just the other guy"

I see.

Incapable of civil debate (conservatives) you immediately resort to personal attacks and lies.

I am NOT a greedy person.

YOU are an ABOMINABLE LIAR for suggesting it!

I don't know you and you don't fkn know me!

I have no idea if YOU are greedy or not but I do know you MAKE UP LIES and ATTACK DECENT PEOPLE with them.

I own a small house
a small yard
2 vehicles for my wife and I
a dog and 2 cats
I donated 4 years of my life working for a large local charity; picking up, cleaning, repairing, packing, boxing, dump runs, organizing the actual rummage sale, tents, tables, electricity, volunteers

I BOUGHT stuff at yard sales to DONATE TO THE FKN CHARITY so they make a little more money from it.
I BOUGHT bags of books (on bag day) from OTHER book sales to add to our stock in our sale

When I buy a 6 dollar hamburger I leave a $4 tip

I OVER tipped a waitress once (as I generally do) and one of my companions, seeing the excess, said "that's too much!", proceeded to PICK UP the fkn tip and put it in his fkn pocket!
I put more down, told him to leave it alone.

This thread is about SOCIALISM and whether it works or not.

it is not about YOU making FALSE claims about people who are OBVIOUSLY much better than you.


SOME FKN SOCIALISM (yspos) IS GOOD!

roads, schools, fire dept, police, social security...


and THAT does NOT make me GREEDY

The fact that you even think that makes YOU.......well....I'm too much of a gentleman to say what you are......

Aw, virtue signaling, a true sign of a commie. LMAO

.

fuk you you stinking piece of nazi shit

 

[anynameyouwish]

So...I'm sure he will nobly turn down Social Security and Medicare since they are socialism.

I've never understood this comment from left-wingers.

If you give me money to live on.... why would I not take it? Sure you paying for my life, will eventually cause you to go bankrupt, but until that happens, I'll take every dollar you give me. That's your fault for offering to pay for my life. Has nothing to do with me. I'm simply accepting the money you are willing to give out.

Again, Venezuela... they did all this, and the result was the country imploded, and people are eating their pet dog and cat to survive a little longer.

Millions of people already left the country almost a decade ago. Them leaving... and not taking the socialist hand outs, didn't change the fact that socialism eventually fails. So whether we take every dollar from Social Security and Medicare until they go broke, or we don't... doesn't change that both will go broke. So there is no reason we shouldn't take whatever we can get, until the system fails.

It's going to fail no matter what we do, because socials has always failed, is failing, and will fail in the future.

I'll take every dollar you are willing to give me, until you are impoverished like those in France.

"socialism eventually fails"

sigh.....

the happiest countries in the world are SOCIAL democracies;

Norway, Finland, Denmark,


In fact....here are the top 20 (note the US position)

1

Finland 7.769 1.340 1.587 0.986 0.596 0.153 0.393
2

Denmark 7.600 1.383 1.573 0.996 0.592 0.252 0.410
3

Norway 7.554 1.488 1.582 1.028 0.603 0.271 0.341
4

Iceland 7.494 1.380 1.624 1.026 0.591 0.354 0.118
5

Netherlands 7.488 1.396 1.522 0.999 0.557 0.322 0.298
6

Switzerland 7.480 1.452 1.526 1.052 0.572 0.263 0.343
7

Sweden 7.343 1.387 1.487 1.009 0.574 0.267 0.373
8

New Zealand 7.307 1.303 1.557 1.026 0.585 0.330 0.380
9

Canada 7.278 1.365 1.505 1.039 0.584 0.285 0.308
10

Austria 7.246 1.376 1.475 1.016 0.532 0.244 0.226
11

Australia 7.228 1.372 1.548 1.036 0.557 0.332 0.290
12

Costa Rica 7.167 1.034 1.441 0.963 0.558 0.144 0.093
13

Israel 7.139 1.276 1.455 1.029 0.371 0.261 0.082
14

Luxembourg 7.090 1.609 1.479 1.012 0.526 0.194 0.316
15

United Kingdom 7.054 1.333 1.538 0.996 0.450 0.348 0.278
16

Ireland 7.021 1.499 1.553 0.999 0.516 0.298 0.310
17

Germany 6.985 1.373 1.454 0.987 0.495 0.261 0.265
18

Belgium 6.923 1.356 1.504 0.986 0.473 0.160 0.210
19

United States 6.892 1.433 1.457 0.874 0.454 0.280 0.128
20

Czech Republic

YOU keep FORCING US to discuss Venezuala and Cuba....

but we don't want to be like those countries....

we don't want COMMUNIST socialism

We want everything we have NOW that YOU DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT (police, military, fire dept , roads, social security)
plus we'd like AFFORDABLE (not FREE not FREE not FREE NOT FKN FREE) AFFORDABLE Healthcare and Education.

like Norway
and Finland


NOT like Venezuela

Why can't you understand that?

what the fuk is wrong with you that you can't talk about Norway or Finland but MUST ONLY DISCUSS the evils of Venezuela?

Why do you keep claiming that those countries are socialist, when even those country deny they are socialist?

Why do your fellow travellers and the OP keep claiming that Bernie Sanders is a "socialist" when he self-describes as a Democratic Socialist?

See how that works?

Having it both ways: Priceless.

Because there is zero difference between the two.

You are asking "Why are you calling bright red, red?" Um... because putting it near a light, doesn't change the color. Red, is red, whether it is bright, dark, neon, or any other flavor of red.

Socialism, is still socialism, whether the person implementing it was given authority by vote, or by birth.
See how that works?

Failing to realize the flaw of your own argument: Priceless.

so Denmark is venezuela?


we HAVE socialism

roads, schools, police, fire dept.

if RED is RED then using YOUR deranged logic the USA is ALREADY a communist country.

 

[OKTexas]

the WHOLE FKN POINT of CAPITALISM is EXCESSIVE GREED and ENVY.....

Ah, but I'll bet you're never greedy or envious are you. No, just the other guy.

"Ah, but I'll bet you're never greedy or envious are you. No, just the other guy"

I see.

Incapable of civil debate (conservatives) you immediately resort to personal attacks and lies.

I am NOT a greedy person.

YOU are an ABOMINABLE LIAR for suggesting it!

I don't know you and you don't fkn know me!

I have no idea if YOU are greedy or not but I do know you MAKE UP LIES and ATTACK DECENT PEOPLE with them.

I own a small house
a small yard
2 vehicles for my wife and I
a dog and 2 cats
I donated 4 years of my life working for a large local charity; picking up, cleaning, repairing, packing, boxing, dump runs, organizing the actual rummage sale, tents, tables, electricity, volunteers

I BOUGHT stuff at yard sales to DONATE TO THE FKN CHARITY so they make a little more money from it.
I BOUGHT bags of books (on bag day) from OTHER book sales to add to our stock in our sale

When I buy a 6 dollar hamburger I leave a $4 tip

I OVER tipped a waitress once (as I generally do) and one of my companions, seeing the excess, said "that's too much!", proceeded to PICK UP the fkn tip and put it in his fkn pocket!
I put more down, told him to leave it alone.

This thread is about SOCIALISM and whether it works or not.

it is not about YOU making FALSE claims about people who are OBVIOUSLY much better than you.


SOME FKN SOCIALISM (yspos) IS GOOD!

roads, schools, fire dept, police, social security...


and THAT does NOT make me GREEDY

The fact that you even think that makes YOU.......well....I'm too much of a gentleman to say what you are......

Aw, virtue signaling, a true sign of a commie. LMAO

.

fuk you you stinking piece of nazi shit

Some talk, some do. I see you're all talk.


.

 

[Blues Man]

i love this guy!

'Socialism Does Not Work': Trump Supporter Confronts Sanders At Campaign Event

So...I'm sure he will nobly turn down Social Security and Medicare since they are socialism.

No they are not

And it was his money that was taken so why should he not take it back

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[anynameyouwish]

the WHOLE FKN POINT of CAPITALISM is EXCESSIVE GREED and ENVY.....

Ah, but I'll bet you're never greedy or envious are you. No, just the other guy.

"Ah, but I'll bet you're never greedy or envious are you. No, just the other guy"

I see.

Incapable of civil debate (conservatives) you immediately resort to personal attacks and lies.

I am NOT a greedy person.

YOU are an ABOMINABLE LIAR for suggesting it!

I don't know you and you don't fkn know me!

I have no idea if YOU are greedy or not but I do know you MAKE UP LIES and ATTACK DECENT PEOPLE with them.

I own a small house
a small yard
2 vehicles for my wife and I
a dog and 2 cats
I donated 4 years of my life working for a large local charity; picking up, cleaning, repairing, packing, boxing, dump runs, organizing the actual rummage sale, tents, tables, electricity, volunteers

I BOUGHT stuff at yard sales to DONATE TO THE FKN CHARITY so they make a little more money from it.
I BOUGHT bags of books (on bag day) from OTHER book sales to add to our stock in our sale

When I buy a 6 dollar hamburger I leave a $4 tip

I OVER tipped a waitress once (as I generally do) and one of my companions, seeing the excess, said "that's too much!", proceeded to PICK UP the fkn tip and put it in his fkn pocket!
I put more down, told him to leave it alone.

This thread is about SOCIALISM and whether it works or not.

it is not about YOU making FALSE claims about people who are OBVIOUSLY much better than you.


SOME FKN SOCIALISM (yspos) IS GOOD!

roads, schools, fire dept, police, social security...


and THAT does NOT make me GREEDY

The fact that you even think that makes YOU.......well....I'm too much of a gentleman to say what you are......

Aw, virtue signaling, a true sign of a commie. LMAO

.

fuk you you stinking piece of nazi shit

Some talk, some do. I see you're all talk.


.

fuk you you stinking piece of nazi shit

 

[Blues Man]

My brother told me that socialism doesn't work, as well. We had that conversation as I was taking him to his Medicare doctor appointment.

You need to look up the definition of socialism

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[Andylusion]

I've never understood this comment from left-wingers.

If you give me money to live on.... why would I not take it? Sure you paying for my life, will eventually cause you to go bankrupt, but until that happens, I'll take every dollar you give me. That's your fault for offering to pay for my life. Has nothing to do with me. I'm simply accepting the money you are willing to give out.

Again, Venezuela... they did all this, and the result was the country imploded, and people are eating their pet dog and cat to survive a little longer.

Millions of people already left the country almost a decade ago. Them leaving... and not taking the socialist hand outs, didn't change the fact that socialism eventually fails. So whether we take every dollar from Social Security and Medicare until they go broke, or we don't... doesn't change that both will go broke. So there is no reason we shouldn't take whatever we can get, until the system fails.

It's going to fail no matter what we do, because socials has always failed, is failing, and will fail in the future.

I'll take every dollar you are willing to give me, until you are impoverished like those in France.

"socialism eventually fails"

sigh.....

the happiest countries in the world are SOCIAL democracies;

Norway, Finland, Denmark,


In fact....here are the top 20 (note the US position)

1

Finland 7.769 1.340 1.587 0.986 0.596 0.153 0.393
2

Denmark 7.600 1.383 1.573 0.996 0.592 0.252 0.410
3

Norway 7.554 1.488 1.582 1.028 0.603 0.271 0.341
4

Iceland 7.494 1.380 1.624 1.026 0.591 0.354 0.118
5

Netherlands 7.488 1.396 1.522 0.999 0.557 0.322 0.298
6

Switzerland 7.480 1.452 1.526 1.052 0.572 0.263 0.343
7

Sweden 7.343 1.387 1.487 1.009 0.574 0.267 0.373
8

New Zealand 7.307 1.303 1.557 1.026 0.585 0.330 0.380
9

Canada 7.278 1.365 1.505 1.039 0.584 0.285 0.308
10

Austria 7.246 1.376 1.475 1.016 0.532 0.244 0.226
11

Australia 7.228 1.372 1.548 1.036 0.557 0.332 0.290
12

Costa Rica 7.167 1.034 1.441 0.963 0.558 0.144 0.093
13

Israel 7.139 1.276 1.455 1.029 0.371 0.261 0.082
14

Luxembourg 7.090 1.609 1.479 1.012 0.526 0.194 0.316
15

United Kingdom 7.054 1.333 1.538 0.996 0.450 0.348 0.278
16

Ireland 7.021 1.499 1.553 0.999 0.516 0.298 0.310
17

Germany 6.985 1.373 1.454 0.987 0.495 0.261 0.265
18

Belgium 6.923 1.356 1.504 0.986 0.473 0.160 0.210
19

United States 6.892 1.433 1.457 0.874 0.454 0.280 0.128
20

Czech Republic

YOU keep FORCING US to discuss Venezuala and Cuba....

but we don't want to be like those countries....

we don't want COMMUNIST socialism

We want everything we have NOW that YOU DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT (police, military, fire dept , roads, social security)
plus we'd like AFFORDABLE (not FREE not FREE not FREE NOT FKN FREE) AFFORDABLE Healthcare and Education.

like Norway
and Finland


NOT like Venezuela

Why can't you understand that?

what the fuk is wrong with you that you can't talk about Norway or Finland but MUST ONLY DISCUSS the evils of Venezuela?

Why do you keep claiming that those countries are socialist, when even those country deny they are socialist?

Why do your fellow travellers and the OP keep claiming that Bernie Sanders is a "socialist" when he self-describes as a Democratic Socialist?

See how that works?

Having it both ways: Priceless.

Because there is zero difference between the two.

You are asking "Why are you calling bright red, red?" Um... because putting it near a light, doesn't change the color. Red, is red, whether it is bright, dark, neon, or any other flavor of red.

Socialism, is still socialism, whether the person implementing it was given authority by vote, or by birth.
See how that works?

Failing to realize the flaw of your own argument: Priceless.

so Denmark is venezuela?


we HAVE socialism

roads, schools, police, fire dept.

if RED is RED then using YOUR deranged logic the USA is ALREADY a communist country.

No. Denmark is not socialist. Not even close. The USA is not socialist.

Danish PM in US: Denmark is not socialist

All the Nordic countries are very very capitalist. Some of the Nordic countries are even more capitalist than the US is.

Now I do agree, that there are some specific socialized areas of the economy, and it is in those areas we have all the problems.

Banking, Healthcare, Education, all very socialized, and all very screwed up.

But when you say you are in favor of real socialism.... every country that has implemented the policies of socialism... has ended up like Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, pre-78 China, pre-90s India and so on.

Every country that has adopted pro-Capitalist policies, has ended up wealthy. Nordic countries, western Europe, post-78 China, post 90s India, Japan, S.Korea, and so on.

Again, as I said in the prior posts, if we actually adopted the policies of the Nordic Countries, those of you on the left-wing, would be having an epileptic seizure. You would never tolerate the policies in the Nordic countries, that make the Nordic countries what they are.

 

[OKTexas]

Ah, but I'll bet you're never greedy or envious are you. No, just the other guy.

"Ah, but I'll bet you're never greedy or envious are you. No, just the other guy"

I see.

Incapable of civil debate (conservatives) you immediately resort to personal attacks and lies.

I am NOT a greedy person.

YOU are an ABOMINABLE LIAR for suggesting it!

I don't know you and you don't fkn know me!

I have no idea if YOU are greedy or not but I do know you MAKE UP LIES and ATTACK DECENT PEOPLE with them.

I own a small house
a small yard
2 vehicles for my wife and I
a dog and 2 cats
I donated 4 years of my life working for a large local charity; picking up, cleaning, repairing, packing, boxing, dump runs, organizing the actual rummage sale, tents, tables, electricity, volunteers

I BOUGHT stuff at yard sales to DONATE TO THE FKN CHARITY so they make a little more money from it.
I BOUGHT bags of books (on bag day) from OTHER book sales to add to our stock in our sale

When I buy a 6 dollar hamburger I leave a $4 tip

I OVER tipped a waitress once (as I generally do) and one of my companions, seeing the excess, said "that's too much!", proceeded to PICK UP the fkn tip and put it in his fkn pocket!
I put more down, told him to leave it alone.

This thread is about SOCIALISM and whether it works or not.

it is not about YOU making FALSE claims about people who are OBVIOUSLY much better than you.


SOME FKN SOCIALISM (yspos) IS GOOD!

roads, schools, fire dept, police, social security...


and THAT does NOT make me GREEDY

The fact that you even think that makes YOU.......well....I'm too much of a gentleman to say what you are......

Aw, virtue signaling, a true sign of a commie. LMAO

.

fuk you you stinking piece of nazi shit

Some talk, some do. I see you're all talk.


.

fuk you you stinking piece of nazi shit

How'd your wife like supporting your lazy ass when you were doing all that "volunteer" work?

BTW, citizens helping other citizens is the antithesis of socialism.

If you need the big words explained, ask your wife, she seems to be the responsible one.

.

 

[Pogo]

i love this guy!

Of course you do. Anything that disrupts a discussion you cream your jeans, doncha.

Does it not even occur to you that the statement in your title doesn't even appear in the video? Or are you just too stupid to check it?

You commies set the rules, don't cry when we play by them.

No idea what that means. I understand English is a challenging language to learn.

 

[OKTexas]

i love this guy!

Of course you do. Anything that disrupts a discussion you cream your jeans, doncha.

Does it not even occur to you that the statement in your title doesn't even appear in the video? Or are you just too stupid to check it?

You commies set the rules, don't cry when we play by them.

No idea what that means. I understand English is a challenging language to learn.

Get a 6 year old to explain it to ya.

.

 

[Pogo]

So...I'm sure he will nobly turn down Social Security and Medicare since they are socialism.

I've never understood this comment from left-wingers.

If you give me money to live on.... why would I not take it? Sure you paying for my life, will eventually cause you to go bankrupt, but until that happens, I'll take every dollar you give me. That's your fault for offering to pay for my life. Has nothing to do with me. I'm simply accepting the money you are willing to give out.

Again, Venezuela... they did all this, and the result was the country imploded, and people are eating their pet dog and cat to survive a little longer.

Millions of people already left the country almost a decade ago. Them leaving... and not taking the socialist hand outs, didn't change the fact that socialism eventually fails. So whether we take every dollar from Social Security and Medicare until they go broke, or we don't... doesn't change that both will go broke. So there is no reason we shouldn't take whatever we can get, until the system fails.

It's going to fail no matter what we do, because socials has always failed, is failing, and will fail in the future.

I'll take every dollar you are willing to give me, until you are impoverished like those in France.

"socialism eventually fails"

sigh.....

the happiest countries in the world are SOCIAL democracies;

Norway, Finland, Denmark,


In fact....here are the top 20 (note the US position)

1

Finland 7.769 1.340 1.587 0.986 0.596 0.153 0.393
2

Denmark 7.600 1.383 1.573 0.996 0.592 0.252 0.410
3

Norway 7.554 1.488 1.582 1.028 0.603 0.271 0.341
4

Iceland 7.494 1.380 1.624 1.026 0.591 0.354 0.118
5

Netherlands 7.488 1.396 1.522 0.999 0.557 0.322 0.298
6

Switzerland 7.480 1.452 1.526 1.052 0.572 0.263 0.343
7

Sweden 7.343 1.387 1.487 1.009 0.574 0.267 0.373
8

New Zealand 7.307 1.303 1.557 1.026 0.585 0.330 0.380
9

Canada 7.278 1.365 1.505 1.039 0.584 0.285 0.308
10

Austria 7.246 1.376 1.475 1.016 0.532 0.244 0.226
11

Australia 7.228 1.372 1.548 1.036 0.557 0.332 0.290
12

Costa Rica 7.167 1.034 1.441 0.963 0.558 0.144 0.093
13

Israel 7.139 1.276 1.455 1.029 0.371 0.261 0.082
14

Luxembourg 7.090 1.609 1.479 1.012 0.526 0.194 0.316
15

United Kingdom 7.054 1.333 1.538 0.996 0.450 0.348 0.278
16

Ireland 7.021 1.499 1.553 0.999 0.516 0.298 0.310
17

Germany 6.985 1.373 1.454 0.987 0.495 0.261 0.265
18

Belgium 6.923 1.356 1.504 0.986 0.473 0.160 0.210
19

United States 6.892 1.433 1.457 0.874 0.454 0.280 0.128
20

Czech Republic

YOU keep FORCING US to discuss Venezuala and Cuba....

but we don't want to be like those countries....

we don't want COMMUNIST socialism

We want everything we have NOW that YOU DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT (police, military, fire dept , roads, social security)
plus we'd like AFFORDABLE (not FREE not FREE not FREE NOT FKN FREE) AFFORDABLE Healthcare and Education.

like Norway
and Finland


NOT like Venezuela

Why can't you understand that?

what the fuk is wrong with you that you can't talk about Norway or Finland but MUST ONLY DISCUSS the evils of Venezuela?

Why do you keep claiming that those countries are socialist, when even those country deny they are socialist?

Why do your fellow travellers and the OP keep claiming that Bernie Sanders is a "socialist" when he self-describes as a Democratic Socialist?

See how that works?

Having it both ways: Priceless.

Because there is zero difference between the two.

You are asking "Why are you calling bright red, red?" Um... because putting it near a light, doesn't change the color. Red, is red, whether it is bright, dark, neon, or any other flavor of red.

Socialism, is still socialism, whether the person implementing it was given authority by vote, or by birth.
See how that works?

Failing to realize the flaw of your own argument: Priceless.

It ain't my fallacy -- it's yours. Called "Double Standard". Obviously you have no clue what that means; it means you want to apply a distinction to your own argument but then dismiss the same distinction in somebody else's. And that's just plain dishonest.

If there were 'zero difference', the proper adjective would be nonfunctiona, wouldn't it. That qualifier is there for a reason, yet you would dismiss that reason as inconvenient to your partisan hacksmanship.

Is there "zero difference" between a tire rack and a gun rack? Hey, a rack's a rack, right?
Traffic cone - ice cream cone. Same thing right? Ever see a carpenter put a nail in a governing board?

Your argument is dishonest. Now you're trying to avoid admitting it, which is also dishonest.

 

[Pogo]

i love this guy!

Of course you do. Anything that disrupts a discussion you cream your jeans, doncha.

Does it not even occur to you that the statement in your title doesn't even appear in the video? Or are you just too stupid to check it?

You commies set the rules, don't cry when we play by them.

No idea what that means. I understand English is a challenging language to learn.

Get a 6 year old to explain it to ya.

I wooden want to go over your head.

If you think you have a point, think to try to articulate it.

 

[OKTexas]

i love this guy!

Of course you do. Anything that disrupts a discussion you cream your jeans, doncha.

Does it not even occur to you that the statement in your title doesn't even appear in the video? Or are you just too stupid to check it?

You commies set the rules, don't cry when we play by them.

No idea what that means. I understand English is a challenging language to learn.

Get a 6 year old to explain it to ya.

I wooden want to go over your head.

If you think you have a point, think to try to articulate it.

I made a point, your inability to understand is your problem, not mine.

.

 

[Andylusion]

I've never understood this comment from left-wingers.

If you give me money to live on.... why would I not take it? Sure you paying for my life, will eventually cause you to go bankrupt, but until that happens, I'll take every dollar you give me. That's your fault for offering to pay for my life. Has nothing to do with me. I'm simply accepting the money you are willing to give out.

Again, Venezuela... they did all this, and the result was the country imploded, and people are eating their pet dog and cat to survive a little longer.

Millions of people already left the country almost a decade ago. Them leaving... and not taking the socialist hand outs, didn't change the fact that socialism eventually fails. So whether we take every dollar from Social Security and Medicare until they go broke, or we don't... doesn't change that both will go broke. So there is no reason we shouldn't take whatever we can get, until the system fails.

It's going to fail no matter what we do, because socials has always failed, is failing, and will fail in the future.

I'll take every dollar you are willing to give me, until you are impoverished like those in France.

"socialism eventually fails"

sigh.....

the happiest countries in the world are SOCIAL democracies;

Norway, Finland, Denmark,


In fact....here are the top 20 (note the US position)

1

Finland 7.769 1.340 1.587 0.986 0.596 0.153 0.393
2

Denmark 7.600 1.383 1.573 0.996 0.592 0.252 0.410
3

Norway 7.554 1.488 1.582 1.028 0.603 0.271 0.341
4

Iceland 7.494 1.380 1.624 1.026 0.591 0.354 0.118
5

Netherlands 7.488 1.396 1.522 0.999 0.557 0.322 0.298
6

Switzerland 7.480 1.452 1.526 1.052 0.572 0.263 0.343
7

Sweden 7.343 1.387 1.487 1.009 0.574 0.267 0.373
8

New Zealand 7.307 1.303 1.557 1.026 0.585 0.330 0.380
9

Canada 7.278 1.365 1.505 1.039 0.584 0.285 0.308
10

Austria 7.246 1.376 1.475 1.016 0.532 0.244 0.226
11

Australia 7.228 1.372 1.548 1.036 0.557 0.332 0.290
12

Costa Rica 7.167 1.034 1.441 0.963 0.558 0.144 0.093
13

Israel 7.139 1.276 1.455 1.029 0.371 0.261 0.082
14

Luxembourg 7.090 1.609 1.479 1.012 0.526 0.194 0.316
15

United Kingdom 7.054 1.333 1.538 0.996 0.450 0.348 0.278
16

Ireland 7.021 1.499 1.553 0.999 0.516 0.298 0.310
17

Germany 6.985 1.373 1.454 0.987 0.495 0.261 0.265
18

Belgium 6.923 1.356 1.504 0.986 0.473 0.160 0.210
19

United States 6.892 1.433 1.457 0.874 0.454 0.280 0.128
20

Czech Republic

YOU keep FORCING US to discuss Venezuala and Cuba....

but we don't want to be like those countries....

we don't want COMMUNIST socialism

We want everything we have NOW that YOU DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT (police, military, fire dept , roads, social security)
plus we'd like AFFORDABLE (not FREE not FREE not FREE NOT FKN FREE) AFFORDABLE Healthcare and Education.

like Norway
and Finland


NOT like Venezuela

Why can't you understand that?

what the fuk is wrong with you that you can't talk about Norway or Finland but MUST ONLY DISCUSS the evils of Venezuela?

Why do you keep claiming that those countries are socialist, when even those country deny they are socialist?

Why do your fellow travellers and the OP keep claiming that Bernie Sanders is a "socialist" when he self-describes as a Democratic Socialist?

See how that works?

Having it both ways: Priceless.

Because there is zero difference between the two.

You are asking "Why are you calling bright red, red?" Um... because putting it near a light, doesn't change the color. Red, is red, whether it is bright, dark, neon, or any other flavor of red.

Socialism, is still socialism, whether the person implementing it was given authority by vote, or by birth.
See how that works?

Failing to realize the flaw of your own argument: Priceless.

It ain't my fallacy -- it's yours. Called "Double Standard". Obviously you have no clue what that means; it means you want to apply a distinction to your own argument but then dismiss the same distinction in somebody else's. And that's just plain dishonest.

If there were 'zero difference', the proper adjective would be nonfunctiona, wouldn't it. That qualifier is there for a reason, yet you would dismiss that reason as inconvenient to your partisan hacksmanship.

Is there "zero difference" between a tire rack and a gun rack? Hey, a rack's a rack, right?
Traffic cone - ice cream cone. Same thing right? Ever see a carpenter put a nail in a governing board?

Your argument is dishonest. Now you're trying to avoid admitting it, which is also dishonest.

No, you just don't want to believe it.

There is no difference between Democratic socialism, and socialism.

Democratic has effects nothing in relation to how socialism effects the country.

People voted for Hugo Chavez, and people largely didn't vote for Kim Jong-un, nor Castro.

But the effects Socialism, as one would expect who understands that voting for stupid doesn't magically make stupid smart.... have been identical between those countries. All have declined, all have rampant poverty, all have shortages of basic needs, all have resulted in hundreds, if not millions, fleeing to other countries that do not engage in socialism.

Consistently, socialism has negative consequences, and the results are predictable, and unavoidable.

Never once, has voting on it in so called "democratic socialism" made any difference in the long term consequences.

The only one who is dishonest here, is you. There is nothing to admit to... except perhaps that I admit I've been mocking you using the truth.

 

[Vandalshandle]

My brother told me that socialism doesn't work, as well. We had that conversation as I was taking him to his Medicare doctor appointment.

You need to look up the definition of socialism

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Baby Bush signed a law that added RX benefits to Medicare, even though it increased the Medicare liability by 12%, and did not include a dime's worth of added revenue. In short, it was a gift from the government. If that isn't socialism, I don't know what is.

 

[Blues Man]

My brother told me that socialism doesn't work, as well. We had that conversation as I was taking him to his Medicare doctor appointment.

You need to look up the definition of socialism

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Baby Bush signed a law that added RX benefits to Medicare, even though it increased the Medicare liability by 12%, and did not include a dime's worth of added revenue. In short, it was a gift from the government. If that isn't socialism, I don't know what is.

Learn to use a dictionary