socialism Destroys Another Country

no, sweetheart, it is the absence of private property of everything - even your life and your kids and your wife - in reality. Just let them start with means of production and you will end up in GULAG or dead because of artificially created famine.

:cuckoo: To much tea party kool aid pal. As a Socialist I know damn well the tenets of it unlike you who has been fed the bullshit from the republicans and tea party idiots. Like I said all you need to do is read...its quite simple and easy to find the truth. I won't argue with you over something I know to be true, I would never support something (communism) that doesn't support or allow private personal property. I would much rather have production in the hands of the public than in the hands of an elite few who control how much we get paid etc.

dumbo, start reading from here https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

then I may pay some attention - if you switch from extreme idiocy to a moderate one.

so far it is too stupid to deserve anything except a condescending smirk.

communism never existed. only socialism. and it was murderous - always. and always will be. as it is being proven as we speak.

LOL...I am not a communist numbnuts. I already said end of this discussion as you are willfully ignorant.
 
Everyone in the world knows what socialism but Americans fer chrissake. It's always democratic, is well regulated capitalism with a good safety net- like every modern country, even us when ACA is going...Pub dupes...

''We're all socialists now''- Finland PM when ACA was passed.
Communism is the extreme form, like Nazism is of Republicanism lol...
 
:cuckoo: To much tea party kool aid pal. As a Socialist I know damn well the tenets of it unlike you who has been fed the bullshit from the republicans and tea party idiots. Like I said all you need to do is read...its quite simple and easy to find the truth. I won't argue with you over something I know to be true, I would never support something (communism) that doesn't support or allow private personal property. I would much rather have production in the hands of the public than in the hands of an elite few who control how much we get paid etc.

dumbo, start reading from here https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

then I may pay some attention - if you switch from extreme idiocy to a moderate one.

so far it is too stupid to deserve anything except a condescending smirk.

communism never existed. only socialism. and it was murderous - always. and always will be. as it is being proven as we speak.

LOL...I am not a communist numbnuts. I already said end of this discussion as you are willfully ignorant.

you are just a brainwashed imbecile.

nothing more.

of the OWS type.
 
Everyone in the world knows what socialism but Americans fer chrissake. It's always democratic, is well regulated capitalism with a good safety net- like every modern country, even us when ACA is going...Pub dupes...

''We're all socialists now''- Finland PM when ACA was passed.
Communism is the extreme form, like Nazism is of Republicanism lol...

hater dupe, nazism is just a stage of socialism :D a phase after a parliamentary ( not a revolutionary) type of transition
It existed only 12 years - and only 7 years without a war - so it did not evolve to a full blown socialism.
but it had all the needed features.

Including the enemy of the state as well ( there are always "enemies" in socialism - the totalitarian regime needs to justify the bloodshed of coercion)
 
I couldn't give a shytte what you think, morons. The rest of the modern world thinks Dems are center right, and the GOP are dangerous ugly American nutjobs/savage capitalist/chickenhawk a-holes...SHHH......
 
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HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST IS THE STUPIDEST TP REVISIONISM LATELY...''DANGEROUS DRIVEL''- the Economist. The rest of the world rolls its eyes, Beckbot. He was a militarist, super-nationalist, racist megalomaniac- none of which is socialist, shyttehead. Idiot.
 
HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST IS THE STUPIDEST TP REVISIONISM LATELY...''DANGEROUS DRIVEL''- the Economist. The rest of the world rolls its eyes, Beckbot. He was a militarist, super-nationalist, racist megalomaniac- none of which is socialist, shyttehead. Idiot.

What do you consider Hitler's economic policy? The name of the party was the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party...
 
Who is pushing for nationalization of private business?

Our banks have been nationalized

Yep that damn socialist George Washington began that whole socialist bank thing.
Did He? Try Under Wilson and the PROGRESSIVES...and the same era that brought us the 16th and 17th Amendments that sapped power from the people and the States.


The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve, and informally as the Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. It was created on December 23, 1913, with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, largely in response to a series of financial panics, particularly a severe panic in 1907...

Damn! Washington must have been one OLD sob?!

MORON
 
Fail rate -- 100% and counting. And to think some of our resident geniuses are pushing this style of government...... Incredible.

Every time, every single time, socialism is tried it fails. Spectacularly.

Every Freedom-Loving American predicted this the minute that scumbag 'Ugo took over (may he roast in hell). And now?

Now look at what they've done.

Pretty words can only do so much. And you eventually run out of other people's money

Venezuela Descends Into Madness, Rioting And Hysteria

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But …Socialism…. :dunno:

Via Daily Beast:

“I want to get out of here. I want to leave this country as soon as possible and never come back.”

The text from my friend Luis surprised me. A lawyer by training, he got his masters in urban planning from an elite Manhattan university, and had returned to Venezuela full of hope. He was hired by a local NGO working on poverty abatement issues. But now, he’s fed up.

“Nothing works. There are lines to buy everything. Prices have gone through the roof. You can’t go out at night for fear of getting shot. If you want to get married, finding a place to live is impossible. The country has become unlivable.”

Luis’s story is a depressingly common one on the streets of Venezuela’s major urban centers. The nation’s young people are tired of enduring one of the world’s highest inflation rates, highest murder rates, scarcity of basic staples like toilet paper, and the near certainty that things are going to get worse before they get better. A few days ago, the Associated Press reported on Venezuelans camping on the sidewalk to get information about emigrating to Ireland.



They are going to have more problems when they raise the price of gas, because they can't afford to give it away for free anymore. Venezuelans pay 6 cents a gallon for gas. Yes, .06 cents a gallon.

The crazy thing is they sit on one of the biggest oil fields ever BUT have issues with refineries, even with refineries working they don't charge enough for gas. Over the past few years, even though rich in oil they have imported oil from the United States and have paid regular market prices, but have given it away at 6 cents a gallon. The roads are bad, crime is out of control, and schools and hospitals are often in poor shape BUT ya get nearly FREE gas!

The last time they went to raise gas prices to deal with the issues, hundreds (276 dead, official number from government) if not thousands ( numbers claimed by Cambridge University Study and report) were killed in Caracazo riots. The crazy part about it, is even in this socialist country, its the rich who benefit from the subsidy because they have cars.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/world/americas/venezuela-gasoline-prices.html?_r=0
 
What are the most successful countries in the world today? Which countries would you consider to be the most prosperous as examples to point to of well run nations? Anyone?
 
Is anyone actually suggesting SA style socialism?

I think the most extreme progressives are at most asking for a nation more like Sweden while most just want UHC and their SS and Medicare.
 
So now ORION thinks Hitler was a socialist because it's in the name of the party- sorry, pure propaganda. It's like the Peoples Republic of N Korea are Republicans...
 
So now ORION thinks Hitler was a socialist because it's in the name of the party- sorry, pure propaganda. It's like the Peoples Republic of N Korea are Republicans...

I was asking you. What in your opinion was Hitlers economic policy and beliefs...we know that the more socialist members the Strasser brothers were expelled and 1 was murdered during the purge so what do you consider Hitler's economic policy?
 
So now ORION thinks Hitler was a socialist because it's in the name of the party- sorry, pure propaganda. It's like the Peoples Republic of N Korea are Republicans...

I was asking you. What in your opinion was Hitlers economic policy and beliefs...we know that the more socialist members the Strasser brothers were expelled and 1 was murdered during the purge so what do you consider Hitler's economic policy?

He was a dictator just like Stalin. Appeals to socialism or nationalism or God or whatever else by dictators is just a means to an end. The end being their ultimate authority.
 
I'm also for paid parental leave and free GOOD day care. We and New Guinea are the only countries without ppl..and cheaper university...public U's price doubled just under W...
 
Our banks have been nationalized

Yep that damn socialist George Washington began that whole socialist bank thing.
Did He? Try Under Wilson and the PROGRESSIVES...and the same era that brought us the 16th and 17th Amendments that sapped power from the people and the States.


The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve, and informally as the Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. It was created on December 23, 1913, with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, largely in response to a series of financial panics, particularly a severe panic in 1907...

Damn! Washington must have been one OLD sob?!

MORON

Congress created two Banks of the United States. The first in 1791 and Washinton was not sure the bank was Constititional but Hamilton assured him it was and Congress passed the law creating the Bank. The Second Bank of the United States was killed by Jackson. Might want to do your homework first, this is high school stuff.
 
Funny thread.

But see how quick it got off the topic of the original post....That Socialism sucks everywhere with metronomic regularity; that is, all the time.

What about that?

Don't know, but this thread is killing 'em at the comedy clubs in Stockholm...
 
Stalin was a communist, the central gov't confiscated, owned and ran every aspect of industry, business, and farming.

HITLER WAS A FASCIST, NATIONALIZED ONLY jEWISH BUSINESSES AND THOSE AGAINST HIM. PALS WITH THE CORPORATE ARISTOCRACY, HIS ECONOMY WAS ON A PURE WAR FOOTING, HAD FULL EMPLOYMENT BUT RAN AT HUGE DEFICITS- even with a fotune in Jewish money- THAT MADE IT necessary to go on wars of conquest or at least a policy of annexation to make it work...sorry about the caps.
 
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