Unkotare
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We're where we are because in the 1940's a corporate executive made about 12-15 times what a carpenter or plumber made. By the 70's that figure had grown to 50 times as much. Last year the average CEO made 550 times what an ordinary member of what used to be the middle class earned. This shit has to stop somewhere.
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We're where we are because in the 1940's a corporate executive made about 12-15 times what a carpenter or plumber made. By the 70's that figure had grown to 50 times as much. Last year the average CEO made 550 times what an ordinary member of what used to be the middle class earned. This shit has to stop somewhere.
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I think that's a corporate culture problem, I don't think that's the cause of our economic problems. I think the cause of all our problems is globalism. It isn't that a CEO is making too much, it's that it's too easy to take a manufacturing job or a customer service job and move it to another country.
Give you an example. I had to call T-Mobile for something. Now if this were the 1970's, I'd call a help line and get an operator who would have helped me. Today I have to go threw ten minutes of voice mail before I got to a gal in the Philippines who talked me through my problem by reading out of a book.
YOu could take everything those CEO's make and not fund the government for more than a few weeks. Government's hunger for money is just too great, where 6 trillion out of a 14 trillion economy is government spending.
I think you're the one getting paid...
I worked 41 years at the plant which produced the highly enriched uranium which was used in "Little Boy" You remember reading about that I'm sure. The bomb killed about 70% of the population of Hiroshima, Japan. For the first ten years I was there I was a process operator. I walked in that shit in my street shoes and tracked it home to the carpeting on which my infant children were crawling. Luckily I managed to transfer to the data processing facility in 1961 and get away from the actual process.
I remember when the first people began to draw a pittance from social security...about 1942, 43. The act was initiated about 1935 and guess what........
Dude you are so old I bet you fart dust.
Isn't it about time you off yourself & quit burdening the system?
Respect towards our seniors, that is what everyone loves so much about you.
I think you're the one getting paid...
I worked 41 years at the plant which produced the highly enriched uranium which was used in "Little Boy" You remember reading about that I'm sure. The bomb killed about 70% of the population of Hiroshima, Japan. For the first ten years I was there I was a process operator. I walked in that shit in my street shoes and tracked it home to the carpeting on which my infant children were crawling. Luckily I managed to transfer to the data processing facility in 1961 and get away from the actual process.
You were walking through enriched uranium?
Doesn't sound very smart.
Laughable. When we remind you that the system is completely unsustainable then what? Are you going to be another one of those asshats that say all you have to do is raise the retirement age and cut benefits. I guess it is okay to gut MY social security as long as we don't touch yours huh. That is the complete hypocrisy in SS today. No one want THEIR bennies touched but everyone knows that there needs to be some changes. That's why I have always been behind a kind of soft privatization of the system. That way my benefits would not be an empty promise on a worthless piece of mail that I will never achieve. Instead, they would be concrete and real. Benefits that I would be assured I can draw.Sorry but you're not going to take my SS away from me by telling me I shouldn't expect it. I've paid for it, its an insurance policy, and it has nothing to do with "government taking care of me", it has to do with government paying the benefits of an insurance policy that I'm buying from them and is thus rightfully MINE. It will constitute one part of a multi-pronged retirement approach that also involves paying off mortgage, saving in long term bonds and in stocks, and seeking employment that I'll be able to continue to do in old age.
Care to substantiate that or are you talking out of your ass. Try to even define 'fair share.' I am sure you can. Never mind that everyone that has tried up to and including the president has failed miserable at a definition for 'fair share' but I am sure you can provide better....See..the deal is this. A whole lot more of folks who earn in the upper half are Republicans because they don't want to pay their fair share, i.e. Ronald Reagan.
And? None of the points in this thread even come close to hitting that problem and its root cause. Let me give you a hint, taxes are not the problem here....The problem is... we aren't talking about funding the government. We are talking about MORE and BETTER PAYING jobs for the average worker. Those jobs went bye bye to slave labor countries...the RESULT of that is the CEO making 550x the wages of an average worker and massive profits at the expense of our own economy.
You were walking through enriched uranium?
Doesn't sound very smart.
My Social security benefits are why I’ll never vote republican. They want to cut and end the program so I suspect they will bankrupt us to end or cut it severelyI remember when the first people began to draw a pittance from social security...about 1942, 43. The act was initiated about 1935 and guess what.......the Republicans screamed that it would cost jobs. They continued to scream until the act went to the supreme court twice before it was finally ruled constitutional. Republicans would like to see the poverty stricken back on county poor farms(poorhouses) A couple of acres and a basically empty house where a group of poverty stricken people lived and those who could still amble about would raise and can enough food to feed all of them. This country is lightly sprinkled with unmarked graves from those days.
Social Security is the only program in Washington that month end and month out pays it's own way.
I wish you people had a clue. I wish you could have seen west Tennessee during the depression. Unemployment reached nearly 50%. Grown men cried because they were unable to put food on the table for their families. Men would scrounge around looking for a days work on farms, 12 hours in the fields for $0.75 and their mid day meal. My dad worked in a box factory and ruptured himself lifting loads from a skid and the second day he missed they replaced him. There were no unions, no benefits, no vacation, personal leave, health insurance, workman's comp, etc. If a man could work he was paid...if he couldn't he wasn't.
When my dad got a job as timekeeper on the WPA that was the first regular paycheck he ever drew. He made about $6.50 a week. Believe it or not that was enough to feed us and afford a place to live. He would be sure that my mom kept a pot of navy beans warming on the stove so beggers who knocked on the door knowing we had no work for them could at least have a bowl of beans and a stick of corn bread.
My dad was lucky. When the war started he hired in at Procter and Gamble in Milan, TN where they were cooking TNT and turning out 500# bombs. He worked his way up from laborer to a line superintendent then when he heard they were hiring for a special project in east Tennessee he went to Jackson, TN, interviewed and landed a job working on the Manhatten project in Oak Ridge, TN. Our family did alright after that........all of us. Oak Ridge had over 700 PHD's. 10 times the national average for the population. Those people demanded good schools for their kids and my family was one of thousands who benefited from that. We were so lucky that looking back I have no clue what our fate might have been had we stayed in west Tennessee.
You folks need to get your shit together and your minds right.