Social Security Privatize?

[archangel]

Well I guess ya all did not get my message or thought process...I have no need to pat myself on the back...I love my life and family and yours...I would just like to see this country return to "Happy Days" when money was not so important...sorry I am old fashioned...and we wonder why we have so many problems in life...humm! Carry on soldier...sorry I cannot follo :halo: w you...

 

[freeandfun1]

Okay guys and gals this is going to be a hot button issue this year...so here goes just one mans opinion:It does not take rocket science to figure this one out...Leave it alone...It was intended to be a safety net for the elderly..it has been raped and abused by politicians for uses other than it's intention...Right now there is a 3.3 ratio of contributors to payee's...hummm...it was 16 to one previously..what happened? Well try outsourcing of jobs for a start...then add importing of illegal immigration workers to the mix and walla we have a problem...what is the answer?Well we close our borders tightly...punish corporations who outsource and hire illegal immigrants for low wages...punish politicians who rape the coffer for programs the SSA money was not intended for and call in the IOU's placed in the system for the illegal withdrawl...I like and am satisfied with GW's anti terrorist war,however he is way off base on this one...what say you?

the problem is that there are too many non-elderly getting social security. And I am not just talking about minors that are getting death benefits for a parent that died. I am talking about all kinds of people that could be working but ride the system by taking disability social security.

 

[freeandfun1]

Well I guess ya all did not get my message or thought process...I have no need to pat myself on the back...I love my life and family and yours...I would just like to see this country return to "Happy Days" when money was not so important...sorry I am old fashioned...and we wonder why we have so many problems in life...humm! Carry on soldier...sorry I cannot follo :halo: w you...

you say you want things to get back to like they were "when money was not so important" yet you are talking about money.

 

[no1tovote4]

Well I guess ya all did not get my message or thought process...I have no need to pat myself on the back...I love my life and family and yours...I would just like to see this country return to "Happy Days" when money was not so important...sorry I am old fashioned...and we wonder why we have so many problems in life...humm! Carry on soldier...sorry I cannot follo :halo: w you...

I thought the debate was whether we thought the Government or ourselves would be the ones that are better at securing our retirement, not whether we loved your family (which we do) or our own family (which we most certainly do). I fail to see still why being in the service helps your debate on this particular subject.

Oh well, enjoy.

 

[archangel]

you say you want things to get back to like they were "when money was not so important" yet you are talking about money.

Geez-one expresses an opinion and the weirdos come out of the closet...Yes SSA does involve money that was paid for by contribution to a federal retirement plan..whether you believe it was a plan or not...I'm amazed by all the rhetoric being expelled by the investment community in here...whats the matter pickings getting scarce in Wall Street for suckers...

 

[freeandfun1]

Geez-one expresses an opinion and the weirdos come out of the closet...Yes SSA does involve money that was paid for by contribution to a federal retirement plan..whether you believe it was a plan or not...I'm amazed by all the rhetoric being expelled by the investment community in here...whats the matter pickings getting scarce in Wall Street for suckers...

are you about 12 or so? cuz that is how you discuss things as if you are a kid.

what rhetoric have I expressed? All I pointed out was the FACT (I guess you hate facts) that you started a thread on monetary issues yet you say that you wish people would stop worrying about money. So which is it? Are you wanting to discuss a monetary issue or not?

You seem to be the only weirdo here.

 

[Mr. P]

If you look carefully, I gave you positive points, AA (a name that will live in infamy...from a previous lifetime)

Best of luck to you, AA.

I think I just had a BAD dream!

 

[Fmr jarhead]

Ditto!

 

[Fmr jarhead]

oR SHOULD i SAY, "DITTO?"

 

[manu1959]

i am sure it has been posted that FDR's original plan was a self supporting self funding full opitional system and that a priavte plan was the ultimate goal

if you doubt me go back and read his speach

 

[archangel]

:hail:

are you about 12 or so? cuz that is how you discuss things as if you are a kid.

what rhetoric have I expressed? All I pointed out was the FACT (I guess you hate facts) that you started a thread on monetary issues yet you say that you wish people would stop worrying about money. So which is it? Are you wanting to discuss a monetary issue or not?

You seem to be the only weirdo here.

Excuse me wannabee professor...you are the one who jumped in here and expressed no facts whatsoever...if your comrades were in agreement with me so would you have been...thats my point...pure and simple...you have no independent thoughts just a follower not a leader...another point I was trying to make...grow up...little mind..I threw out a issue for debate and all I get is a repetition of combined thoughts...good God is this what is being taught in universities today...don't give your own thoughts just agree with the masses...I'm beginning to believe that libs and conservatives in both parties are one and the same...I thought this would be a fun and constructive debate issue all I am seeing is mass delusion....lol.. By the way how many of you actually served in the military? You all must have been in college as professional students while we the defenders gave you the right to attack us for our service and thoughts...have a nice day and don't forget to reduce my points to bolster your ego.... :hail:

 

[spillmind]

Talk about true to form. Why don't you get off your butt and PROVE that we actually HAD a surplus IN THE TREASURY. Not a projection, not Clinton's guess, not lib wishful thinking, but actual money.

Do that and then we can talk.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE2/budget.html

but don't mind me, i'm a just a maniacal ranting liberal that doesn't have a goddamned CLUE of what i am talking about.

 

[manu1959]

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE2/budget.html

but don't mind me, i'm a just a maniacal ranting liberal that doesn't have a goddamned CLUE of what i am talking about.

wow you are pretty self aware for a liberal....you must be from mill valley

 

[Merlin1047]

I'm a vet who served and am very proud-you can knock points off till the cow comes home...however your conscience will get to you eventually..

Oh knock it off with the "I'm a vet" act. You don't get extra points for that. Lots of us here are vets, you don't hear us trotting that out every time we disagree with someone.

I answered your original premise in detail. You have continued to ignore it in favor of simply heaping personal abuse and insult on other members. That makes me suspect that you're nothing but a troll who has come here to stir up shit. I tried to give you a not-so-subtle hint before, apparently it didn't take. So I'll spell it out for you. Knock off the personal attacks and the smartass bullshit or I'll ban your ass so fast it will leave friction burns.

Oh - and a P.S. - my conscience is just fine, thank you.

 

[Merlin1047]

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE2/budget.html

but don't mind me, i'm a just a maniacal ranting liberal that doesn't have a goddamned CLUE of what i am talking about.

LOL - well, there's something we can agree upon at last.

So you're going to trot out a 1998 budget hearing and try to make your case with that. Wasn't Slick Willie president in '98? And from your own article:

"HOLLINGS: Well, the truth is...ah, shoot, well, we all know there's Washington's math problem. Alan Sloan in this past week's Newsweek says he spends 150%. What we've been doing, Mr. Chairman, in all reality, is taken a hundred billion out of the Social Security Trust Fund, transferring it over to the spending column, and spending it. Our friends to the left here are getting their tax cuts, we getting our spending increases, and hollering surplus, surplus, and balanced budget, and balanced budget plans when we continue to spend a hundred billion more than we take in. "

So you're proving that the looting of social security funds has been going on for a long time under previous administrations. I knew that already.

 

[freeandfun1]

:hail:
Excuse me wannabee professor...you are the one who jumped in here and expressed no facts whatsoever...if your comrades were in agreement with me so would you have been...thats my point...pure and simple...you have no independent thoughts just a follower not a leader...another point I was trying to make...grow up...little mind..I threw out a issue for debate and all I get is a repetition of combined thoughts...good God is this what is being taught in universities today...don't give your own thoughts just agree with the masses...I'm beginning to believe that libs and conservatives in both parties are one and the same...I thought this would be a fun and constructive debate issue all I am seeing is mass delusion....lol.. By the way how many of you actually served in the military? You all must have been in college as professional students while we the defenders gave you the right to attack us for our service and thoughts...have a nice day and don't forget to reduce my points to bolster your ego.... :hail:

hey fuckhead, I served 8 years in the Army as an Infantryman so stop your dribble. You are about as intelligent as a jackass. You spout some shit and you think everybody is going to think you are so intelligent and wonderful. Grow up and get a clue.

 

[Merlin1047]

I served 8 years in the Army as an Infantryman so stop your dribble.

Ahem - already on it. Check it out: http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17413&page=5&pp=15

Besides - you don't have anything to prove to this guy - why waste the keystrokes?

 

[archangel]

hey fuckhead, I served 8 years in the Army as an Infantryman so stop your dribble. You are about as intelligent as a jackass. You spout some shit and you think everybody is going to think you are so intelligent and wonderful. Grow up and get a clue.

Damn for awhile I thought you might be a fair opponent...wrong I was your language just showed your IQ...When you master the english language please advise us all...I only listen to those who can explain their thoughts without resorting to four letter words, :crutch: common with the Liberals commentary....lol

 

[archangel]

Ahem - already on it. Check it out: http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17413&page=5&pp=15

Besides - you don't have anything to prove to this guy - why waste the keystrokes?

Already on what?Your -check it out- just goes back to this post and entries...
Well at least you have control and left out four letter words...If you support my opponent so be it....however there is never a waste of keystrokes or else why would anyone bother to come into chat in the first place?

 

[CivilLiberty]

1. Democrats are going to say no to anything Bush proposes.

2 Democrats want that big wad of money laying around if they ever return to power.

3 Democrats do NOT want people to be able to keep their own money. They want to redistribute it like the socialists they are.

I don't know about that - the last democrat pres actually reduced the debt for the first time in decades. And Bush is hinging our debt to the hilt like some trailer trash living off credit cards.


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