So, what's stopping workers from controlling the means of production?

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    The central thesis of Socialists is that "working people own and control the means of production and distribution...where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few"

    Well, what's stopping workers from ownership and control?
     
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    The police force and military.
     
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    Just proves we are not nearly as socialist as right wing nuts claim.
     
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    It fails every time it's tried. What was the name of that airline that turned the whole company over to the workers to run? I forget, it went bankrupt long ago.
     
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    yeah and so did a lot of airlines that were not turned over to the employees.

    Does this prove that traditional ownership and management is no better then the employee variety?

    I sold my company to my employees several years ago and they are still doing fine.
    It is an auto Electronics and AC shop.
    They still do work for the state govt and some auto dealers as well as drive in customers.
     
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    Its called a CO-OP. Not many of them in existence though.
     
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    why don't workers buy stock ? if they want more say, in 'their' business' policies; then why don't they "pay to play", and buy their way in, through open "market means", like everybody else, who already does so ? is there need, for "Government & politics", to be invoked, when markets already long ago had the means, by which people could (non coercively) exert their influence, into firms ?
     
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    They can if they work for a corporation, but you must remember that the typical share holder hasn't enough shares to effect the decisions of the corporation.
     
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    People like Barak Obama! :mad:
     
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    if everybody else can, then workers could form "investment trusts", to pool their purchasing power ? "they all invest their money, in "Acme workers investment fund", which then buys big blocs of shares" ?
     

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