So we a Theocracy now?...

[midcan5]

So quickly you wingnuts forget, Bush spoke to Gawd, he even advised him on invading Iraq and killing a hundred thousand innocents, you forgot already? You think all the dead are in heaven now? More are coming everyday from Iraq, it seems from the chaos that Gawd's advice to Bush was misunderstood, do you think that sometimes it may just be the voices in heads, rather than the words of the main woman?

Obama's comment is consistent with most Christian Americans, a rare, rare breed today. Read the quote rather than the filter.

"And so when I talk about our financial institutions playing by the same rules as folks on Main Street, when I talk about making sure insurance companies aren’t discriminating against those who are already sick, or making sure that unscrupulous lenders aren’t taking advantage of the most vulnerable among us, I do so because I genuinely believe it will make the economy stronger for everybody. But I also do it because I know that far too many neighbors in our country have been hurt and treated unfairly over the last few years, and I believe in God’s command to 'love thy neighbor as thyself.'"

Question for the wackos criticizing Obama - Could an atheist get elected president in America?

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[The T]

Everyone has their religious beliefs tied up in their political beliefs, even atheists. We both seem to think we have the correct interpretation of the scripture, Mine tells me that doing something to help the poor and sick is preferable to doing nothing.

Christ left it to the individual person to decide.

There is nothing else left to discuss on this.

So, if an individual person chooses to help another person, that's good according to your view of Christ.

But if a group of people choose to help another group of people, that's wrong, bad, evil socialism and you think Christ would have none of it.

Your view of Christ is rather ... uhm ... interesting.

Group may DO what they want with thier money...

What is so difficult about this?

It isn't government's function.

My view of Christ is from a perspective of whom he was addressing...individual human beings that one day will have to account to thier creator.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Everyone has their religious beliefs tied up in their political beliefs, even atheists. We both seem to think we have the correct interpretation of the scripture, Mine tells me that doing something to help the poor and sick is preferable to doing nothing.

Christ left it to the individual person to decide.

There is nothing else left to discuss on this.

So, if an individual person chooses to help another person, that's good according to your view of Christ.

But if a group of people choose to help another group of people, that's wrong, bad, evil socialism and you think Christ would have none of it.

Your view of Christ is rather ... uhm ... interesting.

The important word is highlighted.

There is no virtue in compelling someone to spend money your way.

 

[Stephanie]

this article is barf worthy...
where is all the lefties now calling for that "secular" government...separation of church and state...


Obama links economic policies with faith
By JULIE PACE, Associated Press

Associated Press February 2, 2012 07:33 AM Copyright Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Thursday, February 2, 2012
.Read more: Obama links economic policies with faith

It swerves into the OP's premise, doesn't it? Obama could give a rat's ass about any of it quite frankly. This is all about HIM, and nothing elese. Always has been, always will be.

pure evil..

 

[The T]

this article is barf worthy...
where is all the lefties now calling for that "secular" government...separation of church and state...


Obama links economic policies with faith
By JULIE PACE, Associated Press

Associated Press February 2, 2012 07:33 AM Copyright Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Thursday, February 2, 2012
.Read more: Obama links economic policies with faith

It swerves into the OP's premise, doesn't it? Obama could give a rat's ass about any of it quite frankly. This is all about HIM, and nothing elese. Always has been, always will be.

pure evil..

Kinda trumps narcissism I was thinking...

 

[DontBeStupid]

Christ left it to the individual person to decide.

There is nothing else left to discuss on this.

So, if an individual person chooses to help another person, that's good according to your view of Christ.

But if a group of people choose to help another group of people, that's wrong, bad, evil socialism and you think Christ would have none of it.

Your view of Christ is rather ... uhm ... interesting.

Group may DO what they want with thier money...

What is so difficult about this?

It isn't government's function.

My view of Christ is from a perspective of whom he was addressing...individual human beings that one day will have to account to thier creator.

Oh no. I get the part you have issue with is that it's YOUR money being used. What I find so interesting, is that not only do you think Christ would be against a group of us helping people, but also that you don't want to be part of that group.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So we a Theocracy now?...

No one smart enough to know the difference between someone invoking his deity and the conservative propensity to conjoin church and State would think so.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I am what I think is a liberal because of the teachings of christ. And for no other basic reason.

I just do not know what the conservative christians are gonna do if christ comes back in their lifetimes and rules this earthly domain for a thousand years. Afterall, most christians are aware that when His followers were inspired by the Holy Spirit, they all immediately sold their possessions, their homes, and brought the proceeds to one of the original followers to be distributed to each according to his need. Sounds like fucking socialism to me. God's chosen manner for a group of people to care for one another. No sir, the conservative christians will shit on themselves, and think back of their vehement opposition to some of the liberal democrats who never went that far!!!!

It really is the great cosmic irony. And funny as Hell.

I am frankly quite happy to see Obama doing God's Will. FDR, Truman, Ike, all of these great men did God's Will quite often. Then it fell out of fashion starting in 1980. And oddly enough the ones that drove it from fashion were conservative christians. We are chock full of irony these days, with much more to come. Stay tuned!

They were moved spiritually by God. Not government.

Yet if God moves those who are in gov't, those who make the rules? Which by the way would logically be the case when christ returns to rule mankind for a thousand years.

But his people will not be driven by greed, as we are. So, they will naturally select a system that would care for the entire group, no longer being driven by greed, the impusle to hoard wealth. This won't be something conservastive christians will be comfortable with. Assuming they make the cut of course....

Do you think Christ will approve of abortions during that thousand year reign? I was just curious since you allude to one political group not making the cut.

 

[Conservative]

How are him mention the baby Jesus at a Prayer breakfast!

Impeach, Impeach.

How are him mention?...

^That guy is in my Avatar!



peace...

That avatar is not Him....

HIM... is him.

 

[Stephanie]

So we a Theocracy now?...

No one smart enough to know the difference between someone invoking his deity and the conservative propensity to conjoin church and State would think so.

 

[mal]

How are him mention the baby Jesus at a Prayer breakfast!

Impeach, Impeach.

How are him mention?...

^That guy is in my Avatar!



peace...

That avatar is not Him....

HIM... is him.

Cannonball then a Motherfucker...



peace...

 

[Baruch Menachem]

So, if an individual person chooses to help another person, that's good according to your view of Christ.

But if a group of people choose to help another group of people, that's wrong, bad, evil socialism and you think Christ would have none of it.

Your view of Christ is rather ... uhm ... interesting.

Group may DO what they want with thier money...

What is so difficult about this?

It isn't government's function.

My view of Christ is from a perspective of whom he was addressing...individual human beings that one day will have to account to thier creator.

Oh no. I get the part you have issue with is that it's YOUR money being used. What I find so interesting, is that not only do you think Christ would be against a group of us helping people, but also that you don't want to be part of that group.

No, the objection is not to whom the money belonged, the issue is one person robbing another to feed his ego.

Helping folks is wonderful. I encourage charity for everyone. But I get no glory if I pay charity out of your wallet without your say in the matter

 

[Conservative]

Christ left it to the individual person to decide.

There is nothing else left to discuss on this.

So, if an individual person chooses to help another person, that's good according to your view of Christ.

But if a group of people choose to help another group of people, that's wrong, bad, evil socialism and you think Christ would have none of it.

Your view of Christ is rather ... uhm ... interesting.

The important word is highlighted.

There is no virtue in compelling someone to spend money your way.

If I want to be Christ-like and help my fellow man, I will I should not have it forced upon me by my government.

 

[The T]

So, if an individual person chooses to help another person, that's good according to your view of Christ.

But if a group of people choose to help another group of people, that's wrong, bad, evil socialism and you think Christ would have none of it.

Your view of Christ is rather ... uhm ... interesting.

Group may DO what they want with thier money...

What is so difficult about this?

It isn't government's function.

My view of Christ is from a perspective of whom he was addressing...individual human beings that one day will have to account to thier creator.

Oh no. I get the part you have issue with is that it's YOUR money being used. What I find so interesting, is that not only do you think Christ would be against a group of us helping people, but also that you don't want to be part of that group.

What part of 'other people' don't you get? And So what if I object to government using MINE? it's mine to start with, and MY decision, now isn't it?

*Idiot*

 

[Avatar4321]

Everyone has their religious beliefs tied up in their political beliefs, even atheists. We both seem to think we have the correct interpretation of the scripture, Mine tells me that doing something to help the poor and sick is preferable to doing nothing.

Christ left it to the individual person to decide.

There is nothing else left to discuss on this.

So, if an individual person chooses to help another person, that's good according to your view of Christ.

But if a group of people choose to help another group of people, that's wrong, bad, evil socialism and you think Christ would have none of it.

Your view of Christ is rather ... uhm ... interesting.

No. It's perfectly alright for groups of people to help others. But they need to do it voluntarily. If it's forced than it's not helping.

The difference between forcing "help" on others and genuinely helping them.

 

[DontBeStupid]

So, if an individual person chooses to help another person, that's good according to your view of Christ.

But if a group of people choose to help another group of people, that's wrong, bad, evil socialism and you think Christ would have none of it.

Your view of Christ is rather ... uhm ... interesting.

The important word is highlighted.

There is no virtue in compelling someone to spend money your way.

If I want to be Christ-like and help my fellow man, I will I should not have it forced upon me by my government.

Because forcing people to be more Christ-like is bad to you?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Obama: I Pushed Dodd-Frank And Health Care Reform Because Of Christ

^Imagine Bush Invoking Christ for the Justification for his Actions regarding Legislation...



peace...

It will be, if Romney is elected POTUS.

Do you even have a CLUE how our Government works?

 

[The T]

The important word is highlighted.

There is no virtue in compelling someone to spend money your way.

If I want to be Christ-like and help my fellow man, I will I should not have it forced upon me by my government.

Because forcing people to be more Christ-like is bad to you?

Get it yet?

 

[Avatar4321]

The important word is highlighted.

There is no virtue in compelling someone to spend money your way.

If I want to be Christ-like and help my fellow man, I will I should not have it forced upon me by my government.

Because forcing people to be more Christ-like is bad to you?

You can't force people to be more Christ-like. It's impossible. Being Christ-like is requires a willing mind and a willing heart. It requires the ability to say "Not my will, but Thine be done."

You can't do that if you are forced. That's why God doesnt force us to be saved. He invites us, exhorts us, pleads for us to accept the Atonement, but He will not force, because it's not possible.

Force is the tool of the Adversary.

 

[Amelia]

They were moved spiritually by God. Not government.

Yet if God moves those who are in gov't, those who make the rules? Which by the way would logically be the case when christ returns to rule mankind for a thousand years.

But his people will not be driven by greed, as we are. So, they will naturally select a system that would care for the entire group, no longer being driven by greed, the impusle to hoard wealth. This won't be something conservastive christians will be comfortable with. Assuming they make the cut of course....

Do you think Christ will approve of abortions during that thousand year reign? I was just curious since you allude to one political group not making the cut.

Interesting question.




Does the instruction to love our neighbor mean we should pay for her abortion if she doesn't have enough money for that?

What would Jesus do?