So the republican solution to our healthcare system is as little government as possible right?

[Rustic]

In many respects reflected from world history, it is reasonable to suggest that too much government is not a good thing. However, “too much” is a very relative concept. There really is such a thing as “too little of government” and I mean that beyond the measure of anarchy as an alternative. Government, when designed properly, can benefit the lives of its citizens.
ACA is an important point to raise in the this topic. While it is certainly flawed and has failed in some of its promises in terms of affordability, it’s never the less improved healthcare in many ways. It has not changed that ACA has protection for pre-existing conditions for anyone who has health insurance. There is also a much higher cap for how much an insurance policy will cover for a medical event. The cap used to be 500,000 but it became 1,000,000 thanks to ACA. Now you can argue that ACA undermines the definition of insurance, but the point here is that healthcare should not be treated like insurance.

Corporate lobbyists own our politicians. Both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are slaves to big money. They are guided more by money than by principle. Both parties are bitches to special interests.

The goal of these lobbyists is to strengthen the power of the corporation’s will and to have less regulation by the government. With less government, what is to prevent the healthcare industry from undermining the healthcare their consumers need?

This is already true.

Insurance company: “Hey guess what, if you pay $600 a month, we will eliminate your deductible for basic healthcare needs!”

The point is that Big Pharma has a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit for their shareholders. This includes undermining the plan the consumer signed up for to save money. Business is business after all.

Only government can ensure that consumers get basic healthcare services.

Which Congressional reps are insurance experts? Which ones know beans about healthcare? They foisted crappy insurance on the working poor to boast about how many folks were "covered". And they HID the "medicare expansion" costs in the pool rather than funding them.

Even the NAME of the program is an evil taunt. Because NOTHING about actual market costs of services or premium control was ever part of the plan. Other than putting more debt on the Treasury.

You want to solve healthcare? Focus on the 10 to 15% UNINSURED. And give some BARE MIN guidelines for individual insurance plans that includes a REASONABLE definition of "pre-existing".. 60% of every person over 40 right now is declared "pre-existing" simply because they are taking cholesterol drugs or blood pressure meds . That's stupid. It's preventative medicine. NOT necessarily an indicator of outcome.

SHOULD BE MINIMAL dictates on insurance from the FEDERAL level. Let the states experiment WITHOUT Federal intervention. Find the concepts that work.

Read up about oz and Canada and the U.K.
90% approval.
They laugh at us.

Keep your socialized medicine to yourselves… Leave the rest of us out of it

 

[BS Filter]

In many respects reflected from world history, it is reasonable to suggest that too much government is not a good thing. However, “too much” is a very relative concept. There really is such a thing as “too little of government” and I mean that beyond the measure of anarchy as an alternative. Government, when designed properly, can benefit the lives of its citizens.
ACA is an important point to raise in the this topic. While it is certainly flawed and has failed in some of its promises in terms of affordability, it’s never the less improved healthcare in many ways. It has not changed that ACA has protection for pre-existing conditions for anyone who has health insurance. There is also a much higher cap for how much an insurance policy will cover for a medical event. The cap used to be 500,000 but it became 1,000,000 thanks to ACA. Now you can argue that ACA undermines the definition of insurance, but the point here is that healthcare should not be treated like insurance.

Corporate lobbyists own our politicians. Both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are slaves to big money. They are guided more by money than by principle. Both parties are bitches to special interests.

The goal of these lobbyists is to strengthen the power of the corporation’s will and to have less regulation by the government. With less government, what is to prevent the healthcare industry from undermining the healthcare their consumers need?

This is already true.

Insurance company: “Hey guess what, if you pay $600 a month, we will eliminate your deductible for basic healthcare needs!”

The point is that Big Pharma has a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit for their shareholders. This includes undermining the plan the consumer signed up for to save money. Business is business after all.

Only government can ensure that consumers get basic healthcare services.

Which Congressional reps are insurance experts? Which ones know beans about healthcare? They foisted crappy insurance on the working poor to boast about how many folks were "covered". And they HID the "medicare expansion" costs in the pool rather than funding them.

Even the NAME of the program is an evil taunt. Because NOTHING about actual market costs of services or premium control was ever part of the plan. Other than putting more debt on the Treasury.

You want to solve healthcare? Focus on the 10 to 15% UNINSURED. And give some BARE MIN guidelines for individual insurance plans that includes a REASONABLE definition of "pre-existing".. 60% of every person over 40 right now is declared "pre-existing" simply because they are taking cholesterol drugs or blood pressure meds . That's stupid. It's preventative medicine. NOT necessarily an indicator of outcome.

SHOULD BE MINIMAL dictates on insurance from the FEDERAL level. Let the states experiment WITHOUT Federal intervention. Find the concepts that work.

Here's a concept for you.

Hows that Trump alternative thing working out for you?

It’s impossible for conservatives to benefit from Obamacare, not only they cannot afford it and will never use it...
When will progressives understands that Obamacare was made for progressives... And only progressives

And the poor to live off the middle class by being subsidized by the middle class that buys insurance out of their pocket.

 

[Pilot1]

The U.S. health care system became the best in the world because of the competition, the PRIVATE SECTOR allows, which also spurred innovation due to the PROFIT MOTIVE. Take that away, and everyone loses.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, the solution is as little government interference as possible. Allow competition just like in the market place. Allow the insurance companies to compete interstate.

Government solves all problems for the right wing. Why not jail employers who don't pay enough.

 

[Rustic]

When Republicans say smaller government, what they mean is no oversight. That way it’s much easier to loot the country.
Have you noticed that for Republicans it’s all about looting America. They don’t wanna build anything, they don’t care about healthcare, it’s just squeeze as much as they can out of the country.

Federal government is the enemy of the country

 

[Rustic]

Liberals want someone else to pay for EVERYTHING.

The concept of health care for all is wonderful. But to me, it's like anything else. You get what you pay for. Nobody pays for my health insurance. I work for it. Why is that such a bad concept to liberals? 70% of America was against Obamacare from the beginning. Later polls showed about 60% opposed. If Trump's approval rating at 40% is "dismal" according to liberals, why is ACA approval at 40% wonderful and amazing?

80% of workers in this country live paycheck to paycheck. People have no choice but to work shit jobs because wages are way behind on the cost of living.

The easiest thing in the world is to spend less than what you have... fact

not for the right wing.

I was talking about individuality....

 

[BS Filter]

Yes, the solution is as little government interference as possible. Allow competition just like in the market place. Allow the insurance companies to compete interstate.

Government solves all problems for the right wing. Why not jail employers who don't pay enough.

Sure, why not. That would be what a true blue Commie does.

 

[Rustic]

It’s some type of perversion expecting the successful to pay for the unsuccessful....

 

[Rustic]

 

[joaquinmiller]

In many respects reflected from world history, it is reasonable to suggest that too much government is not a good thing. However, “too much” is a very relative concept. There really is such a thing as “too little of government” and I mean that beyond the measure of anarchy as an alternative. Government, when designed properly, can benefit the lives of its citizens.
ACA is an important point to raise in the this topic. While it is certainly flawed and has failed in some of its promises in terms of affordability, it’s never the less improved healthcare in many ways. It has not changed that ACA has protection for pre-existing conditions for anyone who has health insurance. There is also a much higher cap for how much an insurance policy will cover for a medical event. The cap used to be 500,000 but it became 1,000,000 thanks to ACA. Now you can argue that ACA undermines the definition of insurance, but the point here is that healthcare should not be treated like insurance.

Corporate lobbyists own our politicians. Both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are slaves to big money. They are guided more by money than by principle. Both parties are bitches to special interests.

The goal of these lobbyists is to strengthen the power of the corporation’s will and to have less regulation by the government. With less government, what is to prevent the healthcare industry from undermining the healthcare their consumers need?

This is already true.

Insurance company: “Hey guess what, if you pay $600 a month, we will eliminate your deductible for basic healthcare needs!”

The point is that Big Pharma has a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit for their shareholders. This includes undermining the plan the consumer signed up for to save money. Business is business after all.

Only government can ensure that consumers get basic healthcare services.

Which Congressional reps are insurance experts? Which ones know beans about healthcare? They foisted crappy insurance on the working poor to boast about how many folks were "covered". And they HID the "medicare expansion" costs in the pool rather than funding them.

Even the NAME of the program is an evil taunt. Because NOTHING about actual market costs of services or premium control was ever part of the plan. Other than putting more debt on the Treasury.

You want to solve healthcare? Focus on the 10 to 15% UNINSURED. And give some BARE MIN guidelines for individual insurance plans that includes a REASONABLE definition of "pre-existing".. 60% of every person over 40 right now is declared "pre-existing" simply because they are taking cholesterol drugs or blood pressure meds . That's stupid. It's preventative medicine. NOT necessarily an indicator of outcome.

SHOULD BE MINIMAL dictates on insurance from the FEDERAL level. Let the states experiment WITHOUT Federal intervention. Find the concepts that work.

Read up about oz and Canada and the U.K.
90% approval.
They laugh at us.

You mean the UK where the Ambulances WAIT to unload the patients until the queue clears out to make the government "service numbers" look good? I ain't looking to the UK or Canada where radiologists work only 6 or 8 months of the year because the reimbursements are so low?

Nope.. I WANT CONTROL of my healthcare. I want to be able to BOLT from one doctor to another when I'm not satisfied with the care. And I want a CONSISTENT doctor who understands my history.

I think he means the UK that has provided healthcare to 100% of its residents for over 70 years, at half the per capita cost the US pays to provide healthcare to a portion of residents.

I, I, I, - the every-man-for-himself nation.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, the solution is as little government interference as possible. Allow competition just like in the market place. Allow the insurance companies to compete interstate.

Government solves all problems for the right wing. Why not jail employers who don't pay enough.

Sure, why not. That would be what a true blue Commie does.

Like criminalizing abortion and whining about the cost of welfare?

 

[danielpalos]

It’s some type of perversion expecting the successful to pay for the unsuccessful....

the rich can afford it.

 

[Rustic]

It’s some type of perversion expecting the successful to pay for the unsuccessful....

the rich can afford it.

Irrelevant...
And by the way the well is dry

 

[danielpalos]

4. and resort to the fewest fallacies or don't whine about not being taken seriously.

Where Is The Outrage Over Corporate Welfare?

 

[danielpalos]

It’s some type of perversion expecting the successful to pay for the unsuccessful....

the rich can afford it.

Irrelevant...
And by the way the well is dry

Multitudes of sins, is what the rich should consider.

 

[deanrd]

This is something that not only the Republican base has fallen for but the entire American people have fallen for this nonsense.
When Republicans say smaller government, what they mean is no oversight. That way it’s much easier to loot the country.
All they have to do is keep it so small it’s both inept and overtaxed.
Have you noticed that for Republicans it’s all about looting America. They don’t wanna build anything, they don’t care about healthcare, it’s just squeeze as much as they can out of the country.
And the base keeps saying good they’re just getting to keep theirs.
No they’re not. We are protecting their BS.

 

[deanrd]

It’s some type of perversion expecting the successful to pay for the unsuccessful....

the rich can afford it.

Mafia Don got people to work for him. And then he refused to pay them. He said go to court I don’t care. Many went bankrupt. And the right wing calls that successful. Just shows what a terrible awful people they are.

 

[danielpalos]

It’s some type of perversion expecting the successful to pay for the unsuccessful....

the rich can afford it.

Mafia Don got people to work for him. And then he refused to pay them. He said go to court I don’t care. Many went bankrupt. And the right wing calls that successful. Just shows what a terrible awful people they are.

some on the left believe it is moral, to merely Tax the Rich into Heaven.

 

[BS Filter]

Yes, the solution is as little government interference as possible. Allow competition just like in the market place. Allow the insurance companies to compete interstate.

Government solves all problems for the right wing. Why not jail employers who don't pay enough.

Sure, why not. That would be what a true blue Commie does.

Like criminalizing abortion and whining about the cost of welfare?

Once again you show your true authoritarian nature. You justify murdering innocent human life in order to put more money in your greedy authoritarian pocket. You assume every child aborted will be on welfare. Um, you're a very sick evil creature.

 

[BS Filter]

It’s some type of perversion expecting the successful to pay for the unsuccessful....

the rich can afford it.

Irrelevant...
And by the way the well is dry

Multitudes of sins, is what the rich should consider.

So you think being wealthy is a sin? When did you become a Christian believer?