So democrats do in fact advocate socialism

[Kuros]

Well, sure they do.

They just hide it behind bullshit semantics like "liberal" and "progressive".

Well, created another thread asking what they find unappealing about the model and I got no answers from democrats so - as I have always known - democrats are really socialists.

Is this what passes for a poll among the ignorant?

Nobody replied. So is it possible they detected that you were being disingenuous?

 

[Contumacious]

It appears to point in that direction..

Partially correct.

Actually the statement " So the demopublicans do in fact advocate socialism". Is far more correct.

Let me remind you that the reason most Republicans oppose Obama is because he is a Negro.

If the same policies were suggested by a cracker they would be immediately accepted.

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Safety Message from the Eye in the Sky, remember next time to unzip before relieving yourself... and no, the white cakes in the urinal are not edible... remember to wash your hands before you leave.

Safety Message from the Eye in the Sky, but remember , when confronted by embarrassing facts , become incoherent.

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[Intense]

It appears to point in that direction..

This is for the Politics board not Flame or funny zone, right?

I'll give you a real response even though I am not honestly a Democrat.

Socialism does not work because of human failings. For the most part we will not show up at work and work our hardest just because we should. There is always some excuse "well he is slacking off down the line" or "the old cripple man who gets paid as much as I do cant keep up so why do we get the same house".

Is pure Socialism my ideal? Not really. Is pure capitalism my ideal? Not really.

I do usually vote for Democrats so I suppose my answer is what you must settle for if you were looking for serious responses. If not let my apologies.

What is Christianity based in, Communion? No Political Structure competes with that, and it is not something even imposed by force. Are we ready for Communion? We are not even close. Hint though, any structure or society that steers us away from what is right and good, profiting off of vice and addiction, has no claim to being on the path.

 

[Intense]

I bet you guys are big fans of the idiot in Norway, he feels the same as you do.

Pretty retarded, even for you Ravi. The Lady is out slumming tonight?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So democrats do in fact advocate socialism
It appears to point in that direction..

Either you forgot to cite your evidence or the purpose of this thread is to exhibit your ignorance. If the latter this thread is unnecessary.

 

[Contumacious]

I really do hope you are not serious.

Feb. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, who sits on the Senate Budget Committee, said he wouldn’t reject the idea of nationalizing U.S. banks.

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Graham is a Marionette bought and paid for a hundred times over by Statist Progressive Puppet Masters. You are shooting blanks.

Alan Greenspan's real qualification is that he can be trusted never to rock the establishment's boat. He has long positioned himself in the very middle of the economic spectrum. He is, like most other long-time Republican economists, a conservative Keynesian, which in these days is almost indistinguishable from the liberal Keynesians in the Democratic camp. In fact, his views are virtually the same as Paul Volcker, also a conservative Keynesian. Which means that he wants moderate deficits and tax increases, and will loudly worry about inflation as he pours on increases in the money supply"

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[Intense]

Partially correct.

Actually the statement " So the demopublicans do in fact advocate socialism". Is far more correct.

Let me remind you that the reason most Republicans oppose Obama is because he is a Negro.

If the same policies were suggested by a cracker they would be immediately accepted.

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Safety Message from the Eye in the Sky, remember next time to unzip before relieving yourself... and no, the white cakes in the urinal are not edible... remember to wash your hands before you leave.

Safety Message from the Eye in the Sky, but remember , when confronted by embarrassing facts , become incoherent.

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Maybe the perspective you miss is that Progressive Statism is the problem and it is at war with the concept of Government by the consent of the governed. Statist's have infiltrated both Parties, that is a fact. When you vote for a Congressman or Senator, are you voting for your Representative or your Keeper? This distinction has in truth been fought over since we broke away from England. The Big Money backed the concept of "Keepers", and has fought to maintain it's hold through Government control, by any means it can get away with. On the other side of the equation, is Liberty and Justice. Is that coherent enough for you?

 

[Intense]

Feb. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, who sits on the Senate Budget Committee, said he wouldn’t reject the idea of nationalizing U.S. banks.

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Graham is a Marionette bought and paid for a hundred times over by Statist Progressive Puppet Masters. You are shooting blanks.

Alan Greenspan's real qualification is that he can be trusted never to rock the establishment's boat. He has long positioned himself in the very middle of the economic spectrum. He is, like most other long-time Republican economists, a conservative Keynesian, which in these days is almost indistinguishable from the liberal Keynesians in the Democratic camp. In fact, his views are virtually the same as Paul Volcker, also a conservative Keynesian. Which means that he wants moderate deficits and tax increases, and will loudly worry about inflation as he pours on increases in the money supply"

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We are parroting each other here. They are both wrong. Live within your means.

 

[Contumacious]

Graham is a Marionette bought and paid for a hundred times over by Statist Progressive Puppet Masters. You are shooting blanks.

Alan Greenspan's real qualification is that he can be trusted never to rock the establishment's boat. He has long positioned himself in the very middle of the economic spectrum. He is, like most other long-time Republican economists, a conservative Keynesian, which in these days is almost indistinguishable from the liberal Keynesians in the Democratic camp. In fact, his views are virtually the same as Paul Volcker, also a conservative Keynesian. Which means that he wants moderate deficits and tax increases, and will loudly worry about inflation as he pours on increases in the money supply"

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We are parroting each other here. They are both wrong. Live within your means.

Alrighty then, when are you going to come over the LIBERTARIAN Camp?

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[Big Fitz]

I've never know a liberal that wants socialism.

But keep pretending they do, and keep pretending that Obama is a Marxist.

It fits your personality of stupidity and your ability to regurgitate talking points.

Strange... I've never known a liberal who DOESN'T want it to a larger or lesser degree. Usually larger.

 

[Dutch]

The funny thing is that all of you have grown up in a system with socialist ideas and you do not even know it,

 

[KissMy]

All those Democrat Government Employees need to start spreading the wealth from their huge defined benefit pensions with the rest of us private citizens.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I've never know a liberal that wants socialism.

But keep pretending they do, and keep pretending that Obama is a Marxist.

It fits your personality of stupidity and your ability to regurgitate talking points.

They all want something different. They all know they want something that is not theirs. They want big government. They want central planning. They want equality of outcome.
They want total womb to tomb security provided by a large intrusive central government.
They want everyone else to pay for all these goodies..

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

"All those Democrat Government Employees need to start spreading the wealth from their huge defined benefit pensions with the rest of us private citizens."

Ah the divided and conquered Pub dupe...

 

[Contumacious]

The funny thing is that all of you have grown up in a system with socialist ideas and you do not even know it,

Yep.

Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.

–Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)

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[jillian]

It appears to point in that direction..

only to really, really stupid rightwingnuts.

use of language is an important skill.

knowing definitions for the words you use would probably be helpful.

hint: not everything you disagree with is "socialism".

though probably giving subsidies to agriculture would qualify. and i thought that was a rightwingnut thing. maybe we should ask michelle bachmann about it.... or about taking fed money to pray awaythe gay.

that sure sounds like socialism to me.

*shrug*

 

[IndependntLogic]

It appears to point in that direction..

I have plenty of Dem friends. Now if you're not actually looking for debate rebuttals etc...(I got that feeling after you bailed from your last thread), then perhaps we might discuss this.
I would first ask you to define socialism, as - especialy on the net - there seems to be a wide range of definitions. Would this be what your are referring to?:

An economic system in which the means of production are publicly or commonly owned. Characteristics of a socialist economy include the complete elimination of privately owned enterprises.

If so, I can assure you that neither of us will find a socialist on this board and very few in America. If this is not what you are referring to, please clarify. Depending on your definition, you may actually be correct.

 

[Contumacious]

hint: not everything you disagree with is "socialism".*

You are correct.

Many areas of our economy are under FASCIST control. So it is important to know the difference between the two.

While fascism is an offshoot of socialism , fascism allows private ownership of property albeit under government control.

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[shintao]

I've never know a liberal that wants socialism.

But keep pretending they do, and keep pretending that Obama is a Marxist.

It fits your personality of stupidity and your ability to regurgitate talking points.

Well meet me Ravi. I am a socialist democrat and proud of it. I am also a Vietnam combat Veteran 67-68'. Nothing wrong with socialism, it is capitalists best friend.

 

[Contumacious]

I've never know a liberal that wants socialism.

But keep pretending they do, and keep pretending that Obama is a Marxist.

It fits your personality of stupidity and your ability to regurgitate talking points.

Well meet me Ravi. I am a socialist democrat and proud of it. I am also a Vietnam combat Veteran 67-68'. Nothing wrong with socialism, it is capitalists best friend.

I am also a VietNam Combat Veteran 1969-71.

Nothing wrong with AIDS , it is the best friend of those who are sexually active.

There is also nothing wrong with trojan viruses , they are a computer owner's best friend.

BTW, were you get shot in the head?

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