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I bet you guys are big fans of the idiot in Norway, he feels the same as you do.
No, you name one that he embraces, asswipe.keep pretending that Obama is a Marxist
If you're right, I just handed you the hammer to beat my brains in with. Name a plank of the Communist Manifesto that he opposes. I like how you keep insulting my intelligence then can't just answer simple questions, particularly questions like this that if you're right you can bludgeon me with.
The true level of their absurdity will come to light
when they try to blame Palin for this somehow
It appears to point in that direction..
I have plenty of Dem friends. Now if you're not actually looking for debate rebuttals etc...(I got that feeling after you bailed from your last thread), then perhaps we might discuss this.
I would first ask you to define socialism, as - especially on the net - there seems to be a wide range of definitions. Would this be what your are referring to?:
An economic system in which the means of production are publicly or commonly owned. Characteristics of a socialist economy include the complete elimination of privately owned enterprises.
If so, I can assure you that neither of us will find a socialist on this board and very few in America. If this is not what you are referring to, please clarify. Depending on your definition, you may actually be correct.
I have posted on European boards, consistently they have mocked the ignorance the American version of "socialist" and they know true socialism. Some people here, have been suckered by their talking head entertainer's deliberate attempts at misinformation.
The Soviets were a Socialist state trying to achieve Communism
Yes, they're evil. The secret is out!
The Soviets were a Socialist state trying to achieve Communism
What you know about the October Revolution of 1917?
What you call Stalin?
"Trying to achieve socialism?"
Stalin was a totalitarian lunatic....
I've never know a liberal that wants socialism..
But keep pretending they do, and keep pretending that Obama is a Marxist.
It fits your personality of stupidity and your ability to regurgitate talking points.
I've never know a liberal that wants socialism..
But keep pretending they do, and keep pretending that Obama is a Marxist.
It fits your personality of stupidity and your ability to regurgitate talking points.
No, you name one that he embraces, asswipe.keep pretending that Obama is a Marxist
If you're right, I just handed you the hammer to beat my brains in with. Name a plank of the Communist Manifesto that he opposes. I like how you keep insulting my intelligence then can't just answer simple questions, particularly questions like this that if you're right you can bludgeon me with.
liberalism=socialism=communism=marxism=progressivism=fascismThe Soviets were a Socialist state trying to achieve Communism
The Soviets were a Socialist state trying to achieve Communism
What you know about the October Revolution of 1917?
What you call Stalin?
"Trying to achieve socialism?"
Stalin was a totalitarian lunatic....
Agree!
The Soviets were just an example of statism at its worst.
The main point is that they were socialists
liberalism=socialism=communism=marxism=progressivism=fascismThe Soviets were a Socialist state trying to achieve Communism
All that differs is the logistics and terminology, but the end result is the same.
ooh wow. damning stuff.No, you name one that he embraces, asswipe.If you're right, I just handed you the hammer to beat my brains in with. Name a plank of the Communist Manifesto that he opposes. I like how you keep insulting my intelligence then can't just answer simple questions, particularly questions like this that if you're right you can bludgeon me with.
Here's is Marx's program:
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.What parts do "liberals" disagree with?
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants [those who try to escape the country] and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
I could see nobody agreeing with this, even liberals.
It appears to point in that direction..
Preamble Note
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Section 8 - Powers of Congress
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
Amendment 13 - Slavery Abolished. Ratified 12/6/1865. History
1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Amendment 27 - Limiting Changes to Congressional Pay. Ratified 5/7/1992. History
No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.
No, you name one that he embraces, asswipe.If you're right, I just handed you the hammer to beat my brains in with. Name a plank of the Communist Manifesto that he opposes. I like how you keep insulting my intelligence then can't just answer simple questions, particularly questions like this that if you're right you can bludgeon me with.
Here's is Marx's program:
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.What parts do "liberals" disagree with?
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants [those who try to escape the country] and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
