RetiredGySgt
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Do you bother to read anything. Go ahead and read what you just quoted from me , then tell me where I claimed a State could leave the Union without permission. The petition is to do just that get Congress to approve certain States leaving. But it only ask for 25000 signatures from across the Country, it is symbolic as that number from everywhere is nothing.The Supreme Court ruled in 1869 that it is not Unconstitutional to leave the Union, but that it must occur by a vote of the Congress. Armed rebellion IS illegal.
Now show me in any of these petitions were any of them advocate armed rebellion? Or are you saying one does not have the freedom to make a petition for something that is Legal and Constitutional?
And we are talking about less then 9000 people with a goal of 25000, Hate to break it to you but there will be no one leaving the UNION just yet.
And none of them advocate force or open rebellion. None of them advocate armed resistance or illegal actions.
Incorrect.
It is un-Constitutional for a state to secede from the Union:
In a 5-to-3 decision, [t]he Court held that individual states could not unilaterally secede from the Union and that the acts of the insurgent Texas legislature--even if ratified by a majority of Texans--were "absolutely null." Even during the period of rebellion, however, the Court found that Texas continued to be a state.
Texas v. White | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law
From the ruling:
Thus, unless these secessionists are planning to start an armed rebellion, or obtain the consent of the other 49 states, such petitions are pointless political theater, yet another infantile temper-tantrum from the right.When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.
Texas v. White
I REPEAT, quote for me where I said a State can leave the Union without Congressional APPROVAL.
As for infantile temper tantrums I remember a few from your side in 2000 and 2004.