So because Obama won a Fair Election Rightwingers trying to throw the country into..

[BallsBrunswick]

Meh... are you really surprised? Of course there was going to be whining or friction from the opposite side regardless of who won the election. This is just a small minority of the right wing that's acting retarded and not a reflection on conservatives as a whole. I've actually been pleased with how well most conservatives are taking it and that there's a renewed interest in bipartisanship and working together to fix common causes.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Supreme Court ruled in 1869 that it is not Unconstitutional to leave the Union, but that it must occur by a vote of the Congress. Armed rebellion IS illegal.

Now show me in any of these petitions were any of them advocate armed rebellion? Or are you saying one does not have the freedom to make a petition for something that is Legal and Constitutional?

And we are talking about less then 9000 people with a goal of 25000, Hate to break it to you but there will be no one leaving the UNION just yet.

And none of them advocate force or open rebellion. None of them advocate armed resistance or illegal actions.

Incorrect.

It is un-Constitutional for a state to ‘secede’ from the Union:

In a 5-to-3 decision, [t]he Court held that individual states could not unilaterally secede from the Union and that the acts of the insurgent Texas legislature--even if ratified by a majority of Texans--were "absolutely null." Even during the period of rebellion, however, the Court found that Texas continued to be a state.

Texas v. White | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law

From the ruling:

When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.

Texas v. White

Thus, unless these ‘secessionists’ are planning to start an armed rebellion, or obtain the consent of the other 49 states, such petitions are pointless political theater, yet another infantile temper-tantrum from the right.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. *DARKNESS*.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[Politico]

Fail. People of all parties have dredged up this stupid topic every year. And the next time a Republican wins it will be a stupid Leftytoon suggesting it.

 

[Intolerant]

I'm pretty impressed with this. I'm sure that the government will just shrug this off. After all, it is a loss if the Feds lose states out of the Union. I wish we really could just draw a line in the sand and say all leeches , crimigrants and liberals on that side and all men and women who want to keep what they make and want to be able to walk around in their own town/city without getting raped, robed or murdered on the other.

 

[mikegriffith1]

The Supreme Court ruled in 1869 that it is not Unconstitutional to leave the Union, but that it must occur by a vote of the Congress. Armed rebellion IS illegal.

Now show me in any of these petitions were any of them advocate armed rebellion? Or are you saying one does not have the freedom to make a petition for something that is Legal and Constitutional?

And we are talking about less then 9000 people with a goal of 25000, Hate to break it to you but there will be no one leaving the UNION just yet.

And none of them advocate force or open rebellion. None of them advocate armed resistance or illegal actions.

Incorrect.

It is un-Constitutional for a state to ‘secede’ from the Union:

In a 5-to-3 decision, [t]he Court held that individual states could not unilaterally secede from the Union and that the acts of the insurgent Texas legislature--even if ratified by a majority of Texans--were "absolutely null." Even during the period of rebellion, however, the Court found that Texas continued to be a state.

Texas v. White | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law

From the ruling:

When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.

Texas v. White

Thus, unless these ‘secessionists’ are planning to start an armed rebellion, or obtain the consent of the other 49 states, such petitions are pointless political theater, yet another infantile temper-tantrum from the right.

Texas v. White was a joke. The court didn't address a single substantive argument for or against secession, and it simply ignored the abundant historical record that the founding fathers never, ever intended the Union to be held together by violence.

Proof that the Union was Supposed to be Voluntary

 

[jwoodie]

A civil War by trying to sign petitions in order to secede from the Union.... Tell me Right wingers aren't this stupid.....

Well, I understand your concern: If all the taxpayers seceded, who would foot the bill for your welfare programs?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Meh... are you really surprised? Of course there was going to be whining or friction from the opposite side regardless of who won the election. This is just a small minority of the right wing that's acting retarded and not a reflection on conservatives as a whole. I've actually been pleased with how well most conservatives are taking it and that there's a renewed interest in bipartisanship and working together to fix common causes.

That’s good to hear.

But clearly none of those conservatives are posting on this site.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Incorrect.

It is un-Constitutional for a state to ‘secede’ from the Union:

In a 5-to-3 decision, [t]he Court held that individual states could not unilaterally secede from the Union and that the acts of the insurgent Texas legislature--even if ratified by a majority of Texans--were "absolutely null." Even during the period of rebellion, however, the Court found that Texas continued to be a state.

Texas v. White | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law

Secession isn't going to happen so this whole discussion is pointless. Nonetheless, you're citing a 140 year old court opinion which, just like any other, could be overturned by a future court, as plenty have.

 

[nitroz]

Tell me Right wingers aren't this stupid.....

They are.

Beat me to it.

Likewise.

 

[Missourian]

The last thing you need to worry about is civil war.

If you really need something to worry about, worry about consumer confidence.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This hissy fit of seceding is no different than the behavior of so called "liberals" in 2004 who after Bush got reelected said they were going to move to Canada. How many of them actually did?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Fair in the same way as Hugo Chavez's reelection.

 

[Sarah G]

It looks like Republicans are going out with a whimper and not with a bang. This place, for instance, cleared out Nov. 7. It's like a wingnut ghost town.

The most extreme of them have never been so quiet around here.

Sheesh. Can't take the heat..

 

[bodecea]

A civil War by trying to sign petitions in order to secede from the Union.... Tell me Right wingers aren't this stupid.....

Tell them all to move to Texas...then secede....Win/Win.

 

[beagle9]

No one wants the blood of their brother - but - when 50% of the country is paying the bills for the other 50% and the money is being corruptly and ridiculously spent – it is really feeling more and more like taxation without representation.

This could really come to blows and the 50% that want their bills paid by the other 50% just may have to face a line being drawn and be told – You can no longer tread on me.

We are in serious trouble – we got four more years of being scared and angry and people will only take so much.

The wife works at a grocery store, so you know that she has seen it all, and tonight she said to me that a lady may be calling in on her tommorrow, so I asked why ? She said that she (the lady) has "wic" (a government program for mothers with children who are poor), and that "wic" is very picky now about what can be purchased and what cannot be purchased with this "wic".

Ok so the lady brought two gallons of milk to the counter, and wic only allows the milk to be store labeled or store brand milk, and not the more expensive brand milk (in which I dis-agree with such a policy myself), because it should not matter what type of milk that a person is buying for their children, just as long as they don't exceed the amount of gallons that is alotted/allocated for them in the program. Anyway the store only had one gallon of store brand milk and the rest was the more expensive brand milk. The more expensive brand milk won't ring up on the wic voucher, so it cannot be bought/purchased even if the person wanted to buy it with the wic voucher. Ok so here my wife and this lady stands, and the lady says to my wife, well what do you want me to do, because I need two gallons of milk tonight, and my wife said the only thing that she could do is get a gallon of the store brand 2% milk, but the woman refused and said that her children won't drink that milk, and so my wife said that she can come back in the morning to get the other gallon when the truck gets there if she can or wants to, but the woman again refused and said, there is no way that I am coming back up here to get my milk when the truck gets here, I need it tonight.

My wife then figured that she wanted my wife to ring up the other gallon at the store brand price, and then let her go with it, but her boss said that my wife did the right thing by refusing any such notion in the situation, because the lady could have easily been an undecover agent for wic. Next the lady pulled out a piece of paper and wrote my wifes name tag down, as if my wife had done her wrong in the situation, when she didnot do her wrong, and was just doing what these programs say do. I got plenty of stories to tell from my wifes experiences in this type of work, and people would be amazed at what goes on.

Personally as I said before, the wic should except any type of milk that the mother is purchasing (nutrition is important for children), but not to exceed the amount of gallons as is allocated fo a single family.

I thought the dems were for nutrition and health for the kids, but it apears with the way this is set up, it is all about the money spent by the government in this situation, instead of truly being about the nutrition for the kids in such a situation. Can you believe this, but the woman was wrong for getting mad at my wife in the situation, and it just showed her ignorance in the situation. If they (the dems) will do this against children (hold back nutrition at the highest levels), then what will they do with the old when it comes to their health care and such ? Can we say death panels are on the way? I think we can safely say that it is true. I mean these are children they are denying nutritious milk to, and are forcing these mothers that are on the program, to buy the cheapest milk they can buy for their children or not have any milk at all. This woman should have been livid at the government, but she instead was mad at my wife for not cheating the government for her in the deal, and then she thinks she can cause my wife trouble for not doing so.. I feel sorry for people ya know...

 

[squeeze berry]

A civil War by trying to sign petitions in order to secede from the Union.... Tell me Right wingers aren't this stupid.....

I haven't seem any petitions.

Care to share?

 

[tyroneweaver]

The Supreme Court ruled in 1869 that it is not Unconstitutional to leave the Union, but that it must occur by a vote of the Congress. Armed rebellion IS illegal.

Now show me in any of these petitions were any of them advocate armed rebellion? Or are you saying one does not have the freedom to make a petition for something that is Legal and Constitutional?

And we are talking about less then 9000 people with a goal of 25000, Hate to break it to you but there will be no one leaving the UNION just yet.

And none of them advocate force or open rebellion. None of them advocate armed resistance or illegal actions.

Incorrect.

It is un-Constitutional for a state to ‘secede’ from the Union:

In a 5-to-3 decision, [t]he Court held that individual states could not unilaterally secede from the Union and that the acts of the insurgent Texas legislature--even if ratified by a majority of Texans--were "absolutely null." Even during the period of rebellion, however, the Court found that Texas continued to be a state.

Texas v. White | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law

From the ruling:

When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.

Texas v. White

Thus, unless these ‘secessionists’ are planning to start an armed rebellion, or obtain the consent of the other 49 states, such petitions are pointless political theater, yet another infantile temper-tantrum from the right.

ya know, you lefties make these poin tless accusations. None of which come to pass. Dirty water, dirty air, etc etc. Now we are going to have an armed rebellion. What's even funnier is you guys believe this shit.

 

[beagle9]

The Supreme Court ruled in 1869 that it is not Unconstitutional to leave the Union, but that it must occur by a vote of the Congress. Armed rebellion IS illegal.

Now show me in any of these petitions were any of them advocate armed rebellion? Or are you saying one does not have the freedom to make a petition for something that is Legal and Constitutional?

And we are talking about less then 9000 people with a goal of 25000, Hate to break it to you but there will be no one leaving the UNION just yet.

And none of them advocate force or open rebellion. None of them advocate armed resistance or illegal actions.

Incorrect.

It is un-Constitutional for a state to ‘secede’ from the Union:



From the ruling:

When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.

Texas v. White

Thus, unless these ‘secessionists’ are planning to start an armed rebellion, or obtain the consent of the other 49 states, such petitions are pointless political theater, yet another infantile temper-tantrum from the right.

ya know, you lefties make these poin tless accusations. None of which come to pass. Dirty water, dirty air, etc etc. Now we are going to have an armed rebellion. What's even funnier is you guys believe this shit.

Or either it is what they want badly enough, and this so they can deal with it like they want to deal with it finally, but the ones they make these claims on, well they won't give them what they want as of yet, and it frustrates the tar out of them that they won't, but they will keep the heat on and hope for a real slip to materialize sooner or later.

 

[Locke11_21]

I can't help but laugh at what an imbecile the OP is. This idiot thinks that just because their side won, we should all completely unite under Obama. Well, guess what, half this country is going to treat Obama the same way the OPs side treated George W. Bush. This is what is comical, they think we should unite under their president, in spite of their actions while Bush was president.

I am no fan of Bush, but I have this to say, if you want us to unite behinde your president, quit acting like the fucking devisvie assholes you are when there is a Republican president. Life not a one way street, a sword does not only cut one way. Nobody forgets how your side compared George W. Bush to Hitler, made a sorry excuse for a documentary title Farenheit 9/11, wanted Bush tried as a war criminal...you know what, if you want socialism, get outta America and move to Europe, this country was NOT founded upon your socialist, collectivist utopia you want here.

You want unity, well next time a Republican is elected president, show some respect, until then...go fuck yourselves.

And I also completely agree with Syrenn, where is the link!!!!