Should civil rights be taught in school?

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Should high school kids be taught their civil rights in school?

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  1. Muhammed
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    Many teenagers do not even know their basic legal rights, and consequently many unnecessarily get arrested and oftentimes convicted of crimes at young ages.

    I think a good way to prevent this is to have a mandatory civil rights classes from around 5th grade to 12th grade.

    I vote yes.
     
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    Just put a sign on the wall above the entrances to the school. " If harassed by a Nazi STFU and call 1-666- Cohen"
     
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    YES and I would add to that
    training in conflict resolution so people can learn
    constructive ways of democratic/due process in "redressing grievances"
    to form a solution that benefits the community, restores good faith
    relations, and satisfies the consent of the parties in a dispute.

    I'm glad you posted this Muhammed
    It just so happens that I credit my 8th grade history teacher
    for teaching how Constitutional laws came from a long
    evolutionary history all the way back from the Code of
    Hammurabi through Mohammad to the European
    influences the Founding Fathers drew from in establishing
    the system we use today.

    it's sad if not distressing to me today that among
    my peers, this understanding is sorely missing
    and it's no wonder why kids don't get it if they
    have no role models, but all they see is BULLYING
    by political parties and even the media to get agenda passed which
    is overriding and skewing if not censoring or crippling
    the democratic process that is supposed to have checks and balances.

    If it all becomes monopolized by monied interests buying
    the corporate lobbyists, lawyers and politicians
    then you can't even see the Constitutional process working that is supposed to be in place.

    So no wonder why students and younger people don't bother
    listening or reading if adults aren't following the rules anyway.

    It's very sad that we punish kids for bullying but adults make a living doing that.
    What mixed message are we sending kids, which is making adults crazy?

    So that's why I would insist we need conflict resolution
    training to undo a lot of this damage from our bullying culture.

    The best way to learn is by practicing and modeling it.
    So the schools could be a safe place to learn and mentor how to
    manage conflicts instead of this bullying tradition that we see in
    political parties, media and govt.
     
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    I don't think there's a problem with students not knowing their rights; the problem is that they think they have rights they don't actually have.

    But to teach them a bit about the Constitution? Sure, why not?
     
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    Already taught
     
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    The Constitution is already being taught in schools all across the nation. Whether that information is adsorbed and retained is an entirely different kettle of fish.
     
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    Kids are not taught how to avoid forfeiting their rights. They are not taught the tactics that police use to trick them.

    For instance, a cop may ask a teenager to search their vehicle by saying "If you've got nothing to hide then do you mind if I take a look around in your car."

    Most of the time the kid is not going to object. They leave themselves wide open and do not realize the implications of forfeiting their rights.

    Seriously, what has more practical value to a kid, Hamlet, or knowing how to avoid getting railroaded into prison?
     
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    Hamlet
     
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    I wasn’t taught how to get a job
    But I can remember dissecting a frog

    I wasn’t taught how to pay tax
    But I know loads about Shakespeare's classics

    I was never taught how to vote
    They devoted that time to defining isotopes

    I wasn’t taught how to look after my health
    But mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

    Never spent a lesson on current events
    Instead I studied The Old American West

    I was never taught what laws there are
    I was never taught what laws there ar
    e
    Let me repeat - I was not taught the laws for the country I live in
    But I know how Henry the VIII killed his women
    Divorced beheaded died, divorced beheaded survived
    Glad that’s in my head instead of financial advice

    I was shown the wavelengths of different hues of light
    But I was never taught my human rights

    Apparently there’s 30, do you know them? I don’t
    Why the hell can’t we both recite them by rote?!

    I know igneous, metamorphic and sedimentary rocks
    Yet I don’t know squat about trading stocks
    Or how money works at all - where does it come from?
    How does the thing that motivates the world function?

    Not taught how to budget and disburse my earnings
    I was too busy rehearsing cursive

    Didn’t learn how much it costs to raise a kid or what an affidavit is
    But I spent days on what the quadratic equation is
    Negative b plus or minus the square root of b squared
    Minus 4ac over 2a

    That’s insane, that’s absolutely insane
    They made me learn that over basic first aid

    How to recognise the most deadly Mental disorders // or
    Diseases with preventable causes // How to buy a
    House with a mortgage // if I could afford it
    ‘cause abstract maths was deemed more important
    Than advice that would literally save thousands of lives

    But it’s cool, ‘cause now I could tell you if the number of unnecessary deaths caused by that choice was prime
    Never taught present day practical medicines
    But I was told what the ancient hippocratic method is
    “I’ve got a headache, the pain is ceaseless
    What should I take?” umm... maybe try some leeches?

    “Could we discuss domestic abuse and get the facts
    Or how to help my depressed friend with their mental state?”
    Ummm... no but learn mental maths
    Because “you won’t have a calculator with you every day!”
    They say it’s not the kids, the parents are the problem
    Then if you taught the kids to parent that’s the problem solved then!

    All this advice about using a condom
    But none for when you actually have a kid when you want one

    I’m only fluent in this language, for serious?
    The rest of the world speaks two, do you think I’m an idiot?
    They chose the solar over the political system
    So like a typical citizen now I don’t know what I’m voting on
    Which policies exist, or how to make them change
    Mais oui, je parle un peu de Francais
    So at 18, I was expected to elect a representative
    For a system I had never ever ever ever been presented with

    But I won’t take it
    I’ll tell everyone my childhood was wasted
    I’ll share it everywhere how I was “educated”
    And insist these pointless things
    Don't stay in school
     
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    It is taught already.
     

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