Should cigarettes be made illegal??

[LoneLaugher]

You are picking up the tab now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rozman]

Should they be made illegal....No
Will they?....Never There is too much money made off it.
Government probably gets the most from it.
Why would they ever kill the golden goose?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

they are killers............................

Not in my opinion. What consenting adults choose to do with their own bodies should not be anyone else's business. Just as importantly, no one should be made to pay for other's choices. Smoke 'em if you like, but pay for your own damn healthcare.

Same theory applies to contraception... and welfare moms.... and drug addicts.....

 

[hortysir]

Should cigarettes be made illegal??

No.

They should however be taxed with the health-care bill they generate in mind.

Same thing with weed.

I have a hard time finding the logic in the constant tax-raising on cigarettes.

Then the price gets so high that people quit and there goes the expected revenue.

 

[g5000]

Should cigarettes be made illegal??

No.

They should however be taxed with the health-care bill they generate in mind.

Same thing with weed.

I have a hard time finding the logic in the constant tax-raising on cigarettes.

Then the price gets so high that people quit and there goes the expected revenue.

The addiction is too powerful for people to quit just because the price went up.

 

[Katzndogz]

Smoking cigarettes should be illegal. Smoking pot should be mandated especially before voting.

 

[hortysir]

No.

They should however be taxed with the health-care bill they generate in mind.

Same thing with weed.

I have a hard time finding the logic in the constant tax-raising on cigarettes.

Then the price gets so high that people quit and there goes the expected revenue.

The addiction is too powerful for people to quit just because the price went up.

People are quitting left&right, tho.....

Hell, it's like being a leper being a smoker these days.



BRB....
Going for a smoke

 

[g5000]

they are killers............................

Not in my opinion. What consenting adults choose to do with their own bodies should not be anyone else's business. Just as importantly, no one should be made to pay for other's choices. Smoke 'em if you like, but pay for your own damn healthcare.

Same theory applies to contraception... and welfare moms.... and drug addicts.....

We must inflict Pigovian taxes on cigarettes, booze, coal, country music, cup cakes, Fox News, Chinese tires, and french fries to pay for hookers and blow for the GSA and Secret Service.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Should cigarettes be made illegal??

No.

They should however be taxed with the health-care bill they generate in mind.

Same thing with weed.

I have a hard time finding the logic in the constant tax-raising on cigarettes.

Then the price gets so high that people quit and there goes the expected revenue.

so maybe BO will force them to buy cigarettes......he seems to like forcing people to buy things.....

 

[Luddly Neddite]

they are killers............................

but then who will pay for childrens' health care programs.....? smokers deserve a medal....

I've said it before, I'll say it again: I think cigarette smokers deserve a medal. They're single-handedly taking all this abuse. They're being forced outside to all of the extremes of weather to engage in their addiction, their habit. Furthermore, they are funding children's health care programs, and yet they are targeted as the absolute most despicable people in our culture. But without them and their purchases of tobacco products there wouldn't be the money to fund children's health care programs, and I don't care how that makes you feel, that is an irrefutable reality.

Smokers Deserve a Medal for Funding Health Care Programs for Kids, Not Government Persecution - The Rush Limbaugh Show

The fat lush, who is addicted to drugs, booze and food, is the least qualified to speak on addictive drugs like cigs. Having said that, DAMN but pig is stupid. Thanks for that reminder. Makes me think we should tax his Viagra.

Ban cigs?

No.

If the pubs ever figure out how to profit from from a weed we can grow on our own yards, that will be legal too.

 

[sublime]

Absolutely not... The war on drugs should be ended as well. The black market, the gangs and the violence related to it is all created by the government tamping down on our individual freedom to consume substances. Sorry, if somebody wants to smoke dope, do cocaine, drink whiskey, smoke cigarrette's or whatever, it's their body, let 'em do it.

 

[Vel]

Should cigarettes be made illegal??

No.

They should however be taxed with the health-care bill they generate in mind.

Same thing with weed.

Just think of all the health care that could be paid for if they actually used cigarette taxes to pay for it. Check the chart at the link.

Tobacco Tax Revenue
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2009-03-31-cigarettetax_N.htm

 

[rightwinger]

Ban cigarettes and legalize marijuana

 

[ginscpy]

I hardly ever smoked cigs

 

[uscitizen]

they are killers............................

Alcohol is deadly too.

 

[BillyV]

The idea that health care costs are higher for smokers is pure baloney; there are no increased health care costs for smokers; on the contrary, they actually cost less.

In a study (cited below), the evidence led the researchers to conclude that lifetime healthcare costs were highest for “healthy living” people, defined as non-smokers of normal weight. You see, the “healthy living” people have access to the system for far longer than the other two groups, and will as a result incur higher lifetime costs. Smokers cost the least, with obese people in the middle (it didn’t rate obese smokers, but presumably even less). Their study had the following conclusion with respect to health care costs:

Quote:

With a simulation model, lifetime health-care costs were estimated for a cohort of obese people aged 20 y at baseline. To assess the impact of obesity, comparisons were made with similar cohorts of smokers and “healthy-living” persons (defined as nonsmokers with a body mass index between 18.5 and 25). Except for relative risk values, all input parameters of the simulation model were based on data from The Netherlands. In sensitivity analyses the effects of epidemiologic parameters and cost definitions were assessed. Until age 56 y, annual health expenditure was highest for obese people. At older ages, smokers incurred higher costs. Because of differences in life expectancy, however, lifetime health expenditure was highest among healthy-living people and lowest for smokers. Obese individuals held an intermediate position. Alternative values of epidemiologic parameters and cost definitions did not alter these conclusions.

Conclusions

Although effective obesity prevention leads to a decrease in costs of obesity-related diseases, this decrease is offset by cost increases due to diseases unrelated to obesity in life-years gained. Obesity prevention may be an important and cost-effective way of improving public health, but it is not a cure for increasing health expenditures.

This does not add into the mix the higher taxes smokers tend to pay as a result of their habit, nor the “positive” impact the shorter lifespan of the obese or the smoker has on the social security and government/union pension systems. I suspect the social security system would collapse if all those who smoke today were to quit. So while you’re planning your retirement, think about thanking a smoker for “taking one for the team” by allowing social security to remain solvent.

PLoS Medicine: Lifetime Medical Costs of Obesity: Prevention No Cure for Increasing Health Expenditure

 

[AquaAthena]

No, if people want to poison themselves they should be free to do so.

NO! Let life and times, happen. It's better than living under big government control. Nothing will ever be perfect. People live and people die. Our behavior usually dictates our consequences. Long may we be free to choose....

 

[Douger]

Absolutely not... The war on drugs should be ended as well. The black market, the gangs and the violence related to it is all created by the government tamping down on our individual freedom to consume substances. Sorry, if somebody wants to smoke dope, do cocaine, drink whiskey, smoke cigarrette's or whatever, it's their body, let 'em do it.

EXACTLY and if they can't afford the fun and decide to steal to pay for it. Trayvon the motherfuckers.

 

[inALIENable]

All this nanny bossy crap is infuriating. I want to hurt people that think they know what's best for me and should be the nanny boss of me. I want a civil war. I want my own nation. Damn authoritarians, toss them all off the planet.

 

[The T]

No, if people want to poison themselves they should be free to do so.

NO! Let life and times, happen. It's better than living under big government control. Nothing will ever be perfect. People live and people die. Our behavior usually dictates our consequences. Long may we be free to choose....

Liberty...is paramount...no matter the decisions people make in thier lives.

Just be responsible for your decisions...and hold NO ONE culpable but yourself for your decisions. The essence of LIBERTY.