Seriously, for a moment, what do you think about Gop conference committee hammering out Healthcare

[bendog]

for all of us? That's where this is heading. The senate will pass bill that just repeals the individual mandate, and refer that to the House. The House will then request a conference to negotiate a compromise beteween that and it's own bill described by Trump as "mean." A conference committee of gopers from the House and Senate will draft a unified bill. That bill will be given an up or down vote by both the House and the Senate.

No democratic input. A republican bill. Is that what we want?

 

[depotoo]

Actually Schumer said they were refusing to help with it.
Saw it come from his own lips.

Chuck Schumer: Democrats refuse to offer amendments until final Obamacare repeal bill revealed

 

[Mr.Blonde]

Didn't the Democrats already have total input without Republicans input?

 

[Thinker101]

for all of us? That's where this is heading. The senate will pass bill that just repeals the individual mandate, and refer that to the House. The House will then request a conference to negotiate a compromise beteween that and it's own bill described by Trump as "mean." A conference committee of gopers from the House and Senate will draft a unified bill. That bill will be given an up or down vote by both the House and the Senate.

No democratic input. A republican bill. Is that what we want?

Sure....which Democrats are willing to get involved?

 

[bendog]

Didn't the Democrats already have total input without Republicans input?

Yeah, and look where it got us. The question is whether the Turtle's approach is better? And it's an open question. I didn't pose it one way or the other.

 

[bendog]

Actually Schumer said they were refusing to help with it.
Saw it come from his own lips.

Chuck Schumer: Democrats refuse to offer amendments until final Obamacare repeal bill revealed

That's not on point. McCain argued the whole shebang should go back to a Senate committee and legislation drafted without precondition. Is that the right way, or is it better to send a committee of gop senators to reconcile a bill passed by the gop in the House that was called "Mean," by Trump? There are pros and cons.

 

[martybegan]

for all of us? That's where this is heading. The senate will pass bill that just repeals the individual mandate, and refer that to the House. The House will then request a conference to negotiate a compromise beteween that and it's own bill described by Trump as "mean." A conference committee of gopers from the House and Senate will draft a unified bill. That bill will be given an up or down vote by both the House and the Senate.

No democratic input. A republican bill. Is that what we want?

Considering that's how Obamacare was passed in the first place, payback is a bitch.

 

[TNHarley]

Lets figure out the best way to work out unconstitutional actions!

 

[BluesLegend]

Government incompetents messing with our healthcare again, this will not end well.

 

[bendog]

for all of us? That's where this is heading. The senate will pass bill that just repeals the individual mandate, and refer that to the House. The House will then request a conference to negotiate a compromise beteween that and it's own bill described by Trump as "mean." A conference committee of gopers from the House and Senate will draft a unified bill. That bill will be given an up or down vote by both the House and the Senate.

No democratic input. A republican bill. Is that what we want?

Considering that's how Obamacare was passed in the first place, payback is a bitch.

Oh that's sweet Marty. I thought the goal was to improve things, not payback. But you certainly illustrate why gummit is broken

 

[fncceo]

Is that what we want?

It's the bill I want.

 

[debbiedowner]

Didn't the Democrats already have total input without Republicans input?

NO they had plenty of hearings.

 

[debbiedowner]

The skinny is only repealing the individual, employer mandates and sun tanning tax.

If this is what you all want don't blame anyone except yourself and legislator when your rates topple 50% by 2019.

 

[martybegan]

for all of us? That's where this is heading. The senate will pass bill that just repeals the individual mandate, and refer that to the House. The House will then request a conference to negotiate a compromise beteween that and it's own bill described by Trump as "mean." A conference committee of gopers from the House and Senate will draft a unified bill. That bill will be given an up or down vote by both the House and the Senate.

No democratic input. A republican bill. Is that what we want?

Considering that's how Obamacare was passed in the first place, payback is a bitch.

Oh that's sweet Marty. I thought the goal was to improve things, not payback. But you certainly illustrate why gummit is broken

Getting Obamacare repealed will improve things, doing it the same way it got passed is just poetic icing on the cake.

I came for the repeal, I stayed for the poetic justice.

 

[bendog]

for all of us? That's where this is heading. The senate will pass bill that just repeals the individual mandate, and refer that to the House. The House will then request a conference to negotiate a compromise beteween that and it's own bill described by Trump as "mean." A conference committee of gopers from the House and Senate will draft a unified bill. That bill will be given an up or down vote by both the House and the Senate.

No democratic input. A republican bill. Is that what we want?

Considering that's how Obamacare was passed in the first place, payback is a bitch.

Oh that's sweet Marty. I thought the goal was to improve things, not payback. But you certainly illustrate why gummit is broken

Getting Obamacare repealed will improve things, doing it the same way it got passed is just poetic icing on the cake.

I came for the repeal, I stayed for the poetic justice.

But the senate getting to conference IS NOT ABOUT REPEALING OBAMACARE. JFC

 

[bendog]

Is that what we want?

It's the bill I want.

But we have no way to know what will be in the final bill. We just know it will repeal more than just the individual mandate but not as much as the House Bill repealed.

 

[g5000]

Actually Schumer said they were refusing to help with it.
Saw it come from his own lips.

Chuck Schumer: Democrats refuse to offer amendments until final Obamacare repeal bill revealed

Now why would Democrats participate in a repeal of ObamaCare?

Do you people ever THINK?

 

[martybegan]

for all of us? That's where this is heading. The senate will pass bill that just repeals the individual mandate, and refer that to the House. The House will then request a conference to negotiate a compromise beteween that and it's own bill described by Trump as "mean." A conference committee of gopers from the House and Senate will draft a unified bill. That bill will be given an up or down vote by both the House and the Senate.

No democratic input. A republican bill. Is that what we want?

Considering that's how Obamacare was passed in the first place, payback is a bitch.

Oh that's sweet Marty. I thought the goal was to improve things, not payback. But you certainly illustrate why gummit is broken

Getting Obamacare repealed will improve things, doing it the same way it got passed is just poetic icing on the cake.

I came for the repeal, I stayed for the poetic justice.

But the senate getting to conference IS NOT ABOUT REPEALING OBAMACARE. JFC

I'll take a partial repeal. As Dems said, we have to pass it to see what's in it.

 

[BluesLegend]

Would government politicians be willing to hand over the whole healthcare issue to a independent council of experts on healthcare, keeping their greedy paws off? Hell no, you are talking about control of 1/6th of the US economy THAT'S why the politicians are drooling on themselves.

 

[bendog]

for all of us? That's where this is heading. The senate will pass bill that just repeals the individual mandate, and refer that to the House. The House will then request a conference to negotiate a compromise beteween that and it's own bill described by Trump as "mean." A conference committee of gopers from the House and Senate will draft a unified bill. That bill will be given an up or down vote by both the House and the Senate.

No democratic input. A republican bill. Is that what we want?

Considering that's how Obamacare was passed in the first place, payback is a bitch.

Oh that's sweet Marty. I thought the goal was to improve things, not payback. But you certainly illustrate why gummit is broken

Getting Obamacare repealed will improve things, doing it the same way it got passed is just poetic icing on the cake.

I came for the repeal, I stayed for the poetic justice.

But the senate getting to conference IS NOT ABOUT REPEALING OBAMACARE. JFC

I'll take a partial repeal. As Dems said, we have to pass it to see what's in it.

My own preference is that I don't want to be in the same pool as people who don't want jobs, so I want to avoid single payer. However, we've already lumped in people who don't work with people who do work but don't earn much and with kids with disabilities and workers who were injured, and that sucks.

But the gop is about to do entitlement reform without input from the other party. That is not how the Founders viewed doing legislation. Of course the founders never envisioned entillements.

But the gop is going to cut Medicaid and taxes on the 1%. I don't think that's politically wise. But McConnell is gambling on coming up with something his party can run on in 18 and 20.