Seriously.. DO the FACTS matter to IDIOTS??

[healthmyths]

FACTS like oh 9/11 occurred!
Dot.com bust occurred.
Worst hurricanes in history occurred.
$8 trillion in tax writes off occurred.

YET idiots totally oblivious to the FACTS blather about hyperbolic statements never realizing they are totally full of CRAP when they make the statements!

CRAP like this statement made by an idiot
"In any case..most of the over 100,000 Iraqis killed..were killed by US actions."

GEEZ !
WHAT A CHEERLEADER for the TERRORISTS!

Using that statement "MOST Killed by US actions" is not only is a total LIE but
geez what do you think Terrorists when hearing MOST Americans think that MOST 100,000 killed by USA!
FACTS:
Casualties of suicide bombings in Iraq, 2003-2010 :: Iraq Body Count

A) 60 times as many civilians killed as soldiers (12,284 vs. 200).
This disparity is extreme by any standard, and evidence that civilians are not just the "collateral damage" of suicide bombers in Iraq but an intended target.

B) They conclude: “Our findings suggest that the Iraqi civilian population suffers a substantial public health burden because it is a primary chosen target of suicide bombers and those who deploy them…

YOU IDIOTS THAT REPEAT the above total LIE "MOST KILLED BY US ACTION"
TAKE IT BACK YOU traitors! YOU CHEERLEADERS for Terrorists!

FACTS are
60,827 of the civilian dead were reported killed by small arms gunfire;
37,980 by explosive weapons (such as IEDs, suicide attacks, and aerial bombardment); and
5,690 by airstrikes (including cannon-fire, bombs and missiles).

14,712 (13%) of all documented civilian deaths were reported as being directly caused by the US-led coalition.
Over half of the civilian deaths caused by US-led coalition forces occurred during the 2003 invasion and the sieges of Fallujah in 2004.

13%!!! NOT F..king MOST you idiots!

AND of those 13% or 14,712 directly caused by US-led...???


Civilian deaths from violence in 2003-2011 :: Iraq Body Count

 

[Truthmatters]

How many would have died if we never went into Iraq?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

How many would have died if we never went into Iraq?

Possibly thousands.

Remember Halabja? That's where Saddam Hussein's Iraqi army killed 5,000 Kurds in a 1988 chemical weapons attack.

But hey don't let the facts stand in your way.

 

[Dragon]

"Most Iraqis killed by U.S. actions" is supported by your own figures.

Over 100,000 total Iraqis killed
13,000 Iraqis killed by suicide bombers
That leaves 87,000 killed by U.S. action

Not a lie.

 

[Douger]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYK35krSATs]Archie Bunker sings God Bless America - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Decepticon]

How many would have died if we never went into Iraq?

Possibly thousands.

Remember Halabja? That's where Saddam Hussein's Iraqi army killed 5,000 Kurds in a 1988 chemical weapons attack.

But hey don't let the facts stand in your way.

So killing 20 TIMES AS MANY Iraqi civilians is justified?
That makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER? You killed 5 thousand of your own people so we're going to come in and botch the job and end up killing 20 times as many to show you how WRONG killing was?

Conservatives got played for chumps. You might as well admit it and move on.

 

[Douger]

Yeah. That's the ultimate response to the question. You're welcome.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

"Most Iraqis killed by U.S. actions" is supported by your own figures.

Over 100,000 total Iraqis killed
13,000 Iraqis killed by suicide bombers
That leaves 87,000 killed by U.S. action

Not a lie.

Not many wars are fought without casualties.


What's your point?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

How many would have died if we never went into Iraq?

Possibly thousands.

Remember Halabja? That's where Saddam Hussein's Iraqi army killed 5,000 Kurds in a 1988 chemical weapons attack.

But hey don't let the facts stand in your way.

So killing 20 TIMES AS MANY Iraqi civilians is justified?
That makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER? You killed 5 thousand of your own people so we're going to come in and botch the job and end up killing 20 times as many to show you how WRONG killing was?

Conservatives got played for chumps. You might as well admit it and move on.

Hey stupid, I simply answered dunderheads question.

Where's your link that supports your claim that 20 times as many civilians were killed by US armed forces?

 

[Sallow]

Possibly thousands.

Remember Halabja? That's where Saddam Hussein's Iraqi army killed 5,000 Kurds in a 1988 chemical weapons attack.

But hey don't let the facts stand in your way.

So killing 20 TIMES AS MANY Iraqi civilians is justified?
That makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER? You killed 5 thousand of your own people so we're going to come in and botch the job and end up killing 20 times as many to show you how WRONG killing was?

Conservatives got played for chumps. You might as well admit it and move on.

Hey stupid, I simply answered dunderheads question.

Where's your link that supports your claim that 20 times as many civilians were killed by US armed forces?

It was all over the news..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQi20nJ67c]beautiful city of Baghdad get bombed by US - YouTube[/ame]

Unless they had "A-Team" bombs and bullets that just hit the bad guys.

 

[bripat9643]

How many would have died if we never went into Iraq?

A lot more, dolt, because Saddam murdered his own people by the hundreds of thousands.

 

[Valox]

"Most Iraqis killed by U.S. actions" is supported by your own figures.

Over 100,000 total Iraqis killed
13,000 Iraqis killed by suicide bombers
That leaves 87,000 killed by U.S. action

Not a lie.

Don't forget our sanctions on Iraq which led to the death of a half a million of children, but "it was worth it".

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4]Madeleine Albright - 60 Minutes - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Dragon]

"Most Iraqis killed by U.S. actions" is supported by your own figures.

Over 100,000 total Iraqis killed
13,000 Iraqis killed by suicide bombers
That leaves 87,000 killed by U.S. action

Not a lie.

Not many wars are fought without casualties.


What's your point?

Exactly what I said it was: the OP's facts do not support his argument.

Where's your link that supports your claim that 20 times as many civilians were killed by US armed forces?

It's in the OP, more or less. It's more like 7 to one than 20 to one, though.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

"Most Iraqis killed by U.S. actions" is supported by your own figures.

Over 100,000 total Iraqis killed
13,000 Iraqis killed by suicide bombers
That leaves 87,000 killed by U.S. action

Not a lie.

Not many wars are fought without casualties.


What's your point?

Exactly what I said it was: the OP's facts do not support his argument.

Where's your link that supports your claim that 20 times as many civilians were killed by US armed forces?

It's in the OP, more or less. It's more like 7 to one than 20 to one, though.

The link gave a number of civilian casualites but nowhere did it suggest the US armed forces were the cause.

 

[healthmyths]

How many would have died if we never went into Iraq?

ANSWER based on these FACTS!!!
According to The New York Times, "he [Saddam] murdered as many as a million of his people, many with poison gas. He tortured, maimed and imprisoned countless more. His unprovoked invasion of Iran is estimated to have left another million people dead. His seizure of Kuwait threw the Middle East into crisis. More insidious, arguably, was the psychological damage he inflicted on his own land. Hussein created a nation of informants — friends on friends, circles within circles — making an entire population complicit in his rule".[9] Others have estimated 800,000 deaths caused by Saddam not counting the Iran-Iraq war.[10]
Human rights in Saddam Hussein's Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So Saddam murdered 1 million of his OWN people per NYTimes from Human rights documentation from 1979 to 2003.
So that is an average of 41,666 of his OWN people per year over the 24 years!
By NOT overthrowing Saddam and regardless of ANYTHING else the bastard did..
The next 9 years assuming Saddam was STILL in power in 2012..
based on his prior historical murdering 41,666 of his own people (see above)
over those 33 years i.e. NOT overthrown up to today.. 2012 - 1979 33 years..
Saddam would have murdered another 375,000 or 1,375,000 people murdered not my words but the above Human Rights by 2012!
AND YOU think that would be OK???

 

[Truthmatters]

so we wasted all of those bombs?

 

[healthmyths]

"Most Iraqis killed by U.S. actions" is supported by your own figures.

Over 100,000 total Iraqis killed
13,000 Iraqis killed by suicide bombers
That leaves 87,000 killed by U.S. action

Not a lie.

AGAIN YOU ARE f..king Totally WRONG!!!
Total deaths from coalition forces:

14,712 (13%) of all documented civilian deaths were reported as being directly caused by the US-led coalition.

Civilian deaths from violence in 2003-2011 :: Iraq Body Count

14,712 is 13% AND NOT 87,000 KILLED by U.S.ACTION you dumb shit...
I use the Internet why can't you before you write such balderdash?

BUT more importantly WHY are YOU so Anti-American?
Why are you SO ready to falsely BLAME which is glaringly UNTRUE that as you said
MOST of 87,000 US caused??
A) It is a total proven Fu..king LIE
B) Why are you so happy to write a totally false LIE about your fellow Americans?

ALL you do is give the terrorist more cheerleading material!

 

[mskafka]

How many would have died if we never went into Iraq?

Possibly thousands.

Remember Halabja? That's where Saddam Hussein's Iraqi army killed 5,000 Kurds in a 1988 chemical weapons attack.

But hey don't let the facts stand in your way.

There is no question that Saddam's overthrown was a good thing. Let's just hope that another doesn't take his place. I do hate that we had to get involved.

 

[mskafka]

His unprovoked invasion of Iran is estimated to have left another million people dead.

And the United States helped arm and aided Iraq during this Iran/Iraq war. That is one of the many reasons that Iran hates the US. I'm sure that you remember that.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/index.htm