Seems the government is trying to create a ammo shortage

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We gonna have to put up with another thread on this every 2 weeks?

No this is a second order for a large amount of ammo over a billion in a half right now.
OH and why does national weather service need ammo?

The National Weather Service Is Shopping For 46,000 Rounds Of Ammunition - Business Insider

Time to get serious about reload equipment. Now I already have to show ID to get cold medicine. So I vote no on the ID.

Time to push back not compromise..........

 

[bigrebnc1775]

We gonna have to put up with another thread on this every 2 weeks?

No this is a second order for a large amount of ammo over a billion in a half right now.
OH and why does national weather service need ammo?

The National Weather Service Is Shopping For 46,000 Rounds Of Ammunition - Business Insider

Time to get serious about reload equipment. Now I already have to show ID to get cold medicine. So I vote no on the ID.

Time to push back not compromise..........

Yep exactly gun powder is simple to make and as a plumber have have access to tons of lead.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

WTF why does the department of education need shotguns?

The Department of Education has placed an official request for bids to fill an order of 27 tactical shotguns.

That’s not a typo, the Department of Education is buying Riot shotguns.

Why?- Department Of Education Buys Shotguns | Real News Reporter

It's not the number that concerns me, it's the fact they ordered them.

 

[beretta304]

National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge Ammo Purchase

Hollow point bullets designed to cause maximum organ damage

Paul Joseph Watson

Infowars.com
Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Why would the National Weather Service need to purchase large quantities of powerful ammo? That’s the question many are asking after the federal agency followed in the footsteps of the Department of Homeland Security in putting out a solicitation for 46,000 rounds of hollow point bullets.

A solicitation which appears on the FedBizOpps website asks for 16,000 rounds of .40 S&W jacketed hollow point (JHP) bullets, noted for their strength, to be delivered to locations in Ellsworth, Maine, and New Bedford, Mass.

A further 6,000 rounds of S&W JHP will be sent to Wall, New Jersey, with another 24,000 rounds of the same bullets heading to the weather station in St. Petersburg, Florida.
The solicitation also asks for 500 paper targets to be delivered to the same locations in Maine, Massachusetts and New Jersey.
The National Weather Service is is one of six scientific agencies that make up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

The NWS is following its federal counterpart the DHS in securing large quantities of ammo. Back in March,Homeland Security purchased 450 million rounds of .40-caliber hollow point bullets that are designed to expand upon entry and cause maximum organ damage, prompting questions as to why the DHS needed such a large amount of powerful bullets merely for training purposes.
As the Business Insider notes, hollow point bullets have been “illegal in international warfare since 1899.”
The DHS is also planning to purchase a further 750 million rounds of different types of ammo in a separate solicitation that also expires on August 20, including 357 mag rounds that are able to penetrate walls.
The DHS recently put out an order for riot gear in preparation for the upcoming DNC, RNC and presidential inauguration. The U.S. Army is also busy buying similar equipment.
The DHS also recently purchased a number of bullet-proof checkpoint booths that include ‘stop and go’ lights.
The federal government is clearly gearing up for the likelihood of civil unrest on a scale that could outstrip what we’ve already seen in countries across Europe.
While the establishment demonizes the second amendment in light of recent mass shootings and legislation is prepared to ban the sale of large quantities of ammunition online, the federal government is acquiring ammunition at levels necessary to fight a full scale domestic war.

 

[Politico]

This is old tired news that keeps getting posted over and over. They buy ammo like this all the time.

 

[nitroz]

Hollow points are specifically for killing. I wonder... whats up?

 

[Old Rocks]

Debunked: DHS orders 450 million .40 caliber bullets for use in America

 

[Old Rocks]

No this is a second order for a large amount of ammo over a billion in a half right now.
OH and why does national weather service need ammo?

The National Weather Service Is Shopping For 46,000 Rounds Of Ammunition - Business Insider

Time to get serious about reload equipment. Now I already have to show ID to get cold medicine. So I vote no on the ID.

Time to push back not compromise..........

Yep exactly gun powder is simple to make and as a plumber have have access to tons of lead.

LOL. Gun powder easy to make. Easy to ignite. And non-jacketed lead bullets will foul your rifling in two or three shots, rendering your gun less accurate than a smooth bore.

 

[bodecea]

Oh goodie! More crazy.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Time to get serious about reload equipment. Now I already have to show ID to get cold medicine. So I vote no on the ID.

Time to push back not compromise..........

Yep exactly gun powder is simple to make and as a plumber have have access to tons of lead.

LOL. Gun powder easy to make. Easy to ignite. And non-jacketed lead bullets will foul your rifling in two or three shots, rendering your gun less accurate than a smooth bore.

RCBS.
Know what the S stands for?

 

[bodecea]

Buy more ammo...it's good for the economy.

Oh...and buy even more ammo.

 

[Old Rocks]

And if we ever have a really large national catastrophe, you can check out how tasty lead, copper, and powder are.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Photo ID for ammo, but not for voting.

Go figure

Both are equally pointless.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This is old tired news that keeps getting posted over and over. They buy ammo like this all the time.

They buy ammo like this all the time? They don't train with hollow points, and no the government would not order all this ammo unless they have used a large portion of ammo they have.
So explain why does the national weather service need ammo for? Why does the department of education need tactical 12 gauge shotguns?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Time to get serious about reload equipment. Now I already have to show ID to get cold medicine. So I vote no on the ID.

Time to push back not compromise..........

Yep exactly gun powder is simple to make and as a plumber have have access to tons of lead.

LOL. Gun powder easy to make. Easy to ignite. And non-jacketed lead bullets will foul your rifling in two or three shots, rendering your gun less accurate than a smooth bore.

OH boy someone trying to explain what I have done for years. do you know what a wad cutter is? It's used in training.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Debunked: DHS orders 450 million .40 caliber bullets for use in America

Debunked yell right sure.

 

[Politico]

Hollow points are specifically for killing.

Yes they are. That's why I buy them.

 

[waltky]

'Clerical error' blamed for 46,000 rounds...

Ammo for Weather Service triggers confusion
NOAA says there was a “clerical error” in the FedBizOpps announcement stating the NWS required ammunition. The solicitation actually originated from the “NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement” not the National Weather Service. See bottom of post for more details.

Original post: Weather forecasting or preparing for war? The National Weather Service (NWS) seeks to buy 46,000 rounds of ammunition for semiautomatic pistols says the FedBizOpps website. It’s a solicitation head-scratcher of explosive proportions. Infowars, the website of libertarian talk-show host Alex Jones, says the ammunition being ordered is “designed to cause maximum organ damage.” But NWS spokesman Chris Vaccaro said the ammunition is not for the NWS. And, in fact, despite the fact the solicitation says NWS “requires” the ammunition, the same solicitation indicates the ammunition is to be delivered to the “NMFS” – which stands for National Marine Fisheries Service. Like the NWS, NMFS is housed under the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

What NMFS is doing with the ammunition is another question. It may support its law enforcement function, described by NOAA accordingly: NOAA’s Office of Law Enforcement is dedicated to enforcing laws that conserve and protect our nation’s living marine resources and their natural habitat. Our goal is to assure that the many people who enjoy these resources for recreation or rely on them for business follow the rules that will maintain the species for future generations. NOAA’s Office of Law Enforcement protects fish stocks from depletion and marine mammals from extinction. We also protect the livelihoods of commercial fishers, the hobbies of recreational fishers, and the health of seafood consumers. Vaccaro said NWS will issue a statement clarifying the solicitation shortly. This is not the first NOAA solicitation to raise eyebrows this year. In May, NOAA posted and then withdrew a $5,000 solicitation for a magician to motivate employees at a leadership training event.

UPDATE, 1:07 p.m.: NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen emailed the following statement, clarifying the ammunition order is for fisheries law enforcement, as we suspected:

Due to a clerical error in the federal business vendor process, a solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement mistakenly identified NOAA’s National Weather Service as the requesting office. The error is being fixed and will soon appear correctly in the electronic federal bidding system. The ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies and it will be used by 63 NOAA enforcement agents in their twice annual target qualifications and training.

Source

 

[bigrebnc1775]

'Clerical error' blamed for 46,000 rounds...

Ammo for Weather Service triggers confusion
NOAA says there was a “clerical error” in the FedBizOpps announcement stating the NWS required ammunition. The solicitation actually originated from the “NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement” not the National Weather Service. See bottom of post for more details.

Original post: Weather forecasting or preparing for war? The National Weather Service (NWS) seeks to buy 46,000 rounds of ammunition for semiautomatic pistols says the FedBizOpps website. It’s a solicitation head-scratcher of explosive proportions. Infowars, the website of libertarian talk-show host Alex Jones, says the ammunition being ordered is “designed to cause maximum organ damage.” But NWS spokesman Chris Vaccaro said the ammunition is not for the NWS. And, in fact, despite the fact the solicitation says NWS “requires” the ammunition, the same solicitation indicates the ammunition is to be delivered to the “NMFS” – which stands for National Marine Fisheries Service. Like the NWS, NMFS is housed under the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

What NMFS is doing with the ammunition is another question. It may support its law enforcement function, described by NOAA accordingly: NOAA’s Office of Law Enforcement is dedicated to enforcing laws that conserve and protect our nation’s living marine resources and their natural habitat. Our goal is to assure that the many people who enjoy these resources for recreation or rely on them for business follow the rules that will maintain the species for future generations. NOAA’s Office of Law Enforcement protects fish stocks from depletion and marine mammals from extinction. We also protect the livelihoods of commercial fishers, the hobbies of recreational fishers, and the health of seafood consumers. Vaccaro said NWS will issue a statement clarifying the solicitation shortly. This is not the first NOAA solicitation to raise eyebrows this year. In May, NOAA posted and then withdrew a $5,000 solicitation for a magician to motivate employees at a leadership training event.

UPDATE, 1:07 p.m.: NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen emailed the following statement, clarifying the ammunition order is for fisheries law enforcement, as we suspected:

Due to a clerical error in the federal business vendor process, a solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement mistakenly identified NOAA’s National Weather Service as the requesting office. The error is being fixed and will soon appear correctly in the electronic federal bidding system. The ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies and it will be used by 63 NOAA enforcement agents in their twice annual target qualifications and training.

Source

And you believe that?

 

[waltky]

BigReb wrote: And you believe that?

Truth is often stranger than fiction...

... when it comes to the government...

... remember the $800 toilet seats?