Secular Humanist (aka athiest) attack on christians continues

[bendog]

Kentucky warns Noah s Ark theme park over hiring practices - Yahoo News
Dictating that Ark World must hire those who deny God's word that HE sent a flood to destroy humankind, and then told Noah to build the ark.

 

[Ravi]

why the hell are they getting tax credits to begin with??????????

 

[nodoginnafight]

AS a general rule, I'm a big fan of letting the guy who is signing the check decide who he hires. I support equal opportunity for all, but I can't help thinking that businesses should be able to pass on employees who do not believe in the business or the business model. How can that be an effective employee?

But yeah, maybe deciding to pass on some of the government freebies, might free them up to do that?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Uh, no.

There is no "attack on christians" there.

Its against the law to discriminate based on religion. Deal with it.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I just noticed that this in Politics.

Shouldn't it be in Religion?

Better yet, Conspiracy ...

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Kentucky warns Noah s Ark theme park over hiring practices - Yahoo News
Dictating that Ark World must hire those who deny God's word that HE sent a flood to destroy humankind, and then told Noah to build the ark.

Actually, God told Noah to build the Ark before the flood.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Kentucky warns Noah s Ark theme park over hiring practices - Yahoo News
Dictating that Ark World must hire those who deny God's word that HE sent a flood to destroy humankind, and then told Noah to build the ark.

Ark World is in violation of the Constitution if it uses discriminatory hiring practices.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Kentucky warns Noah s Ark theme park over hiring practices - Yahoo News
Dictating that Ark World must hire those who deny God's word that HE sent a flood to destroy humankind, and then told Noah to build the ark.

Ark World is in violation of the Constitution if it uses discriminatory hiring practices.

I don't think the Constitution demands that an employer hire a wildly inappropriate employee.

 

[bendog]

Kentucky warns Noah s Ark theme park over hiring practices - Yahoo News
Dictating that Ark World must hire those who deny God's word that HE sent a flood to destroy humankind, and then told Noah to build the ark.

Actually, God told Noah to build the Ark before the flood.

Ah, but HE had already decided mankind needed a good drowning, and the animals just had to be sacrificed, BEFORE he decided Noah could save his family and two animals of all kinds.

And the secular humanists want to require hiring those who DENY THE WORD.

 

[Steven_R]

So, to recap:
Can't use someone's Christian faith as a reason to not hire him? Totally fair.
Can't use someone's lack of Christian faith as a reason not to hire them? Totally unfair.

The law's a bitch when it's used against you.

 

[nodoginnafight]

So, to recap:
Can't use someone's Christian faith as a reason to not hire him? Totally fair.
Can't use someone's lack of Christian faith as a reason not to hire them? Totally unfair.

The law's a bitch when it's used against you.

So a Muslim church would be required to hire a Christian pastor?

 

[Steven_R]

So, to recap:
Can't use someone's Christian faith as a reason to not hire him? Totally fair.
Can't use someone's lack of Christian faith as a reason not to hire them? Totally unfair.

The law's a bitch when it's used against you.

So a Muslim church would be required to hire a Christian pastor?

Depends on the job. For Imam? Probably not because of lack of qualifications. For janitor? Maybe. But even if we're able to exclude religious sites, that isn't the case here. This is a slanted tourist trap that's getting tax incentives. The owners need to pick a position and stick to it. If it's a religious institution, then fine, but that means it has to meet certain definitions under the law and I'm pretty sure tourist traps don't. If it's not a religious institution (especially when we're talking about revenue and taxes), then they have to follow the law, including the one that states religious preference can't be used for or against a candidate for employment.

 

[nodoginnafight]

So, to recap:
Can't use someone's Christian faith as a reason to not hire him? Totally fair.
Can't use someone's lack of Christian faith as a reason not to hire them? Totally unfair.

The law's a bitch when it's used against you.

So a Muslim church would be required to hire a Christian pastor?

Depends on the job. For Imam? Probably not because of lack of qualifications. For janitor? Maybe. But even if we're able to exclude religious sites, that isn't the case here. This is a slanted tourist trap that's getting tax incentives. The owners need to pick a position and stick to it. If it's a religious institution, then fine, but that means it has to meet certain definitions under the law and I'm pretty sure tourist traps don't. If it's not a religious institution (especially when we're talking about revenue and taxes), then they have to follow the law, including the one that states religious preference can't be used for or against a candidate for employment.

Yes, it depends on the job.
And apparently it also depends on YOUR OPINION of whether or not the job/business is faith based?????

 

[Derideo_Te]

Kentucky warns Noah s Ark theme park over hiring practices - Yahoo News
Dictating that Ark World must hire those who deny God's word that HE sent a flood to destroy humankind, and then told Noah to build the ark.

Ark World is in violation of the Constitution if it uses discriminatory hiring practices.

I don't think the Constitution demands that an employer hire a wildly inappropriate employee.

Constitution stipulates that you cannot discriminate based upon religious beliefs when it comes to hiring for a commercial enterprise.

 

[Derideo_Te]

So, to recap:
Can't use someone's Christian faith as a reason to not hire him? Totally fair.
Can't use someone's lack of Christian faith as a reason not to hire them? Totally unfair.

The law's a bitch when it's used against you.

So a Muslim church would be required to hire a Christian pastor?

Churches are not commercial enterprises.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Churches are whatever their members choose for them to be.

Besides - believing or not believing in a literal flood is not a religion and so to hire based on that is not hiring based on religion.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Churches are whatever their members choose for them to be.

The IRS decides what is eligible for religious tax exemptions and what isn't. Ark World doesn't meet the criteria for a church.

 

[WorldWatcher]

So, to recap:
Can't use someone's Christian faith as a reason to not hire him? Totally fair.
Can't use someone's lack of Christian faith as a reason not to hire them? Totally unfair.

The law's a bitch when it's used against you.

So a Muslim church would be required to hire a Christian pastor?

1. Muslim's have Mosques not Churches.

2. No, there something called a "Pastoral Exception" which provides that religious organizations may not be required to hire those who will be performing bona fide religious duties not of the faith for those services.

3. On the other hand a Mosque can not refuse to hire a janitor because they are not Muslim since faith is not a component of emptying the trash and sweeping the floors.

344.090 Religion or national origin, employment discrimination not unlawful
in certain cases.
Notwithstanding any other provisions of KRS 344.030 to 344.110, it is not an
unlawful practice for:
(1) An employer to hire and employ employees, or an employment agency to
classify, or refer for employment an individual, for a labor organization to
classify its membership or to classify or refer for employment an individual, or
for an employer, labor organization, or joint labor-management committee
controlling apprenticeship or other training or retraining programs to admit or
employ an individual in any such program, on the basis of his religion or
national origin in those certain instances where religion or national origin is a
bona fide occupational qualification reasonably necessary to the normal
operation of that particular business or enterprise.[i/ndent]​

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[WorldWatcher]

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"Secular Humanist (aka athiest) attack on christians continues"

Why do you assume it was atheists that pointed out the Ark World they would not be complying with the law?

The link in the OP says it was "State officials" communicating with Ark World about legal requirements, I did see anything that indicated this action was being taken by Atheists.



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[bendog]

Ok, I was just trying to stir the pot with what I thought was a hilarious OP. Ark World. Can anything be more bizarre. Yes, let's build a theme park to celebrate a myth whereby the LOVING GOD decided to visit a horrible death by drowning not just on every human, including children.

The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.

Because of some unspecified wickedness, that is. And all the animals had to go too. Gurgle gurgle. Drown drown.

But Noah got to get saved.

And we think Disney World is a shrine to commercialism. The Mouse is evil but he ain't wicked. LOL

Anyway, I assume Ark World can decline to hire those who don't believe in the flood myth. After all, believing the tripe is probably necessary to sell that bs to the paying customers. So, belief in the myth seems a necessary skill But the state probably shouldn't give Ark World tax credits if they do base hiring on religious belief.