Schumer Agaisnt raising the Debt limit

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    Do you know how many times Chuck Schumer voted against raising the national debt ceiling?

    If you answered "four times" to the question posed in the headline above, you are either spending way too much time in the Congressional Record, or you have superb research and recall skills! Let's just assume it's the latter.

    Anyway, the right answer is indeed four times, at least. For the record, here's the four occasions, as documented by congressional records

    H.R. 2015, Roll Call Vote #241: Passed 270-162, 6/25/97, Schumer Voted Nay

    · H.J. Res. 51, Roll Call Vote #202: Passed 53-44, 5/23/03, Schumer Voted Nay

    · S. 2986, Roll Call Vote #213: Passed 52-44, 11/17/04, Schumer Voted Nay

    · H.J. Res. 47, Roll Call Vote #54: Passed 52-48, 3/16/06, Schumer Voted Nay


    About which, Michael Steel, a key aide to House Speaker John Boehner observes:

    “Sen. Schumer’s voting record is like a dagger aimed at the heart of his own credibility. It is clear that the American people will not tolerate a ‘blank check’ hike in the debt limit unless we deal with the real issue: out-of-control Washington spending. We’re listening to the American people, but the Democrats who run Washington, led by Sen. Schumer, are not.”



    Read more at the Washington Examiner: Do you know how many times Chuck Schumer voted against raising the national debt ceiling? | Mark Tapscott | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner



    Read more at the Washington Examiner: Do you know how many times Chuck Schumer voted against raising the national debt ceiling? | Mark Tapscott | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner
     
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    Chucky-Schumcky Shumer has NEVER been for/against anything that would make HIM look bad...after all? Commumate politician's guide was written BY him...

    I can't stand the BASTARD.
     
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    Obama was against it as well.. remember? I think he called it a "failure of leadership".
     
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    Well if we want to seriously consider not raising the debt ceiling, then we have to look at how much we will need to cut along with how much we will need to raise taxes. In the short term, the most anyone is going to come up with in cuts might be half the amount we would need. That means the rest has to come in the form of tax increases. Now if someone wants to seriously discuss how that can be done, let's talk. Otherwise, the whole thing is a charade.
     
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    Yeah. He changed his mind. People do that. Sometimes we have to do things we didn't want to do to address the problems we face. I don't want to raise the debt cieling. But I think we are going to have to do it in order to fix alot of the problems we are facing (Doesn't mean we can't get trillions in cuts while we are at it).

    It's time we stop focusing on people and start focusing on ideas and solutions for the real problems we are currently facing. We need to change our rhetoric and start communicating with each other instead of past each other.

    The biggest thing we can do to fix our society is fix ourselves instead of whining and complaining about what others do and then ask ourselves why they didnt do something.

    And I hope none of you take what I am saying personally. I don't have a problem with you. I am just sick and tired of all the insanity going on. We need to address these problems now and stop prograstinating or there will be violence in the streets at some point and i sure as heck don't want that.
     
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    Auditor is 100% correct.

    The market will sniff out what's really going on before you see it on FOX. If its coming close to raise the debt ceiling - and we don't already have expenditures reduced below revenue, at some point the bond market will lose confidence we can actually get it done, and pummel U.S. Treasuries. Then its all she wrote. Investors - including nearly trillion each in China and Japan - will start dumping their treasuries, foreign banks will start dumping their dollar reserves, and Americans will be running on the banks to close out their accounts for what little they are worth. The FDIC, and social security will be bankrupt, as well as the federal reserve itself.
     
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    Yeah? The House has their plan and all we get from the Dems is bullshit from political hacks like Shumer who's putting out plans for reform and saving Medicare, Social Security ect... "Can't we all get along" that’s great, but we are getting nothing from Obama and the libs but political gamesmanship but "that’s what the caucus tells them to do" right?
     
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    Big business pushin' for raising the debt ceiling...
    :confused:
    Big business: Quit screwing around on debt ceiling
    May 12, 2011: WASHINGTON (CNNMoney) -- Big business has publicly jumped into the debt ceiling debate, warning lawmakers of dire consequences if they wait too long to raise the legal cap on government borrowing.
    See also:

    Bernanke: Debt ceiling fight poses Lehman-like risk
    May 12, 2011: WASHINGTON (CNNMoney) -- Federal Reserve chief Ben Bernanke reinforced his call on Thursday for Congress to raise the cap on U.S. borrowing, saying a failure to do so could lead down the same risky path that the failure of Lehman Brothers did.
     
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    Granny says if we hadn't give dem bankers dat bailout an' if the rich would pay their fair share o' taxes, we wouldn't be in this mess...
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    Why the debt ceiling doubters are wrong
    May 23, 2011: What happens if Congress fails to raise the debt ceiling by Aug. 2?
     
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