Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??

[JakeStarkey]

There is no doubt the Trumpers stole millions of votes.

 

[peach174]

'Trump's agent of idiocy' Include PC in this group. PC two, three or a hundred wrongs don't make a right. You'll never get that will you?

"There is no Electoral College clause that blunts ferocious opposition to the demeaning of women and racial, ethnic and religious minorities in this country; there is no Election Day reset on the coddling of white supremacy.

Furthermore, the emergence of Donald Trump as a political figure has threatened to kill many of the ideals that we hold dear: decency and decorum, inclusion and empathy, truth and facts themselves.

Trump and his agents of idiocracy are now engaged in an all-out crusade to exaggerate the scope of his victory, rewrite racial history, justify their vendettas and hostilities and erase the very distinction between true and false."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/trumps-agents-of-idiocracy.html

Rage: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/the-rage-of-2016.html

Scam: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/the-art-of-the-scam.html

What will you say if Trumps plans for inner cities starts working?

 

[peach174]

There is no doubt the Trumpers stole millions of votes.

We gotta see proof of that first.

 

[JakeStarkey]

There is no doubt the Trumpers stole millions of votes.

We gotta see proof of that first.

Not at all. Preibus says proof is not necessary to say the votes are being stolen. I agree with him.

 

[L.K.Eder]

There is no doubt the Trumpers stole millions of votes.

We gotta see proof of that first.

^trumptard wanting proof for outrageous claim? lol

 

[JakeStarkey]

There is no doubt the Trumpers stole millions of votes.

We gotta see proof of that first.

^trumptard wanting proof for outrageous claim? lol

lol

 

[Cowman]

Stop making these retarded threads Political- Chic. They suck. And in this case, flat out delusional lies. You're completely dishonest with everyone around you, and yourself.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Dead and illegals are the only things keeping Dems competitive on the national level, maybe even in NY, CA and MA.

They know an accurate, Baghdad purple finger system would be the kiss of death for them

 

[easyt65]

"Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??"

Who cares - it is not pertinent to this election. The President of the United States is elected using the Electoral College system. Donald Trump won that process to become the next President.

Claiming Hillary Clinton won the Popular Vote this past election and thus should be the next President means as much as the fact that 'Boots', the Psychic Scottish Goat, predicted Hillary would win.

Too baaaaaaaaaad, Hillary.

Psychic Goat Predicts Hillary Clinton Will Win 2016 Election

 

[Care4all]

Getting sick and tired of the whiners claiming that Bill's wife won the popular vote?
Well...it's true....but only if you use the time honored Liberal method of claiming to be unable to connect the dots....
...in other words, refuse to include reality

"But....but .....but....no proof!!!! No proof!!!"
Of course there is no need for proof when they claim 'racism.'

The spoiled brats have one set of requirements for themselves, and a different one for the other side.




1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”

Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.

Richman applied those numbers to 2016:

The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.


“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.



Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”

The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”


“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”

Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know, said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election


2. "Three million votes in the U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.

If true, this would mean that Donald Trump still won the contest despite widespread vote fraud and almost certainly won the popular vote.

“We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens,” tweeted Phillips after reporting that the group had completed an analysis of a database of 180 million voter registrations."
Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens

How many of the absentee ballots are from the military....and who do you imagine (I almost said 'think') they voted for?



3. "Claims of votes by the dead, felons cloud North Carolina governor race"
Claims of votes by the dead, felons cloud North Carolina governor race



4. Criminal President Obama Encourages Illegal Aliens to Vote – Promises No Repercussions (VIDEO)




5. "Illegal Voters Uncovered in Philly Are ‘Tip of the Iceberg’
Law firm uncovers illegal immigrants, convicted felons on rolls — and some have voted in crucial swing state
He said there is no way to know how many non-citizens might be registered to vote in Philadelphia, let alone in the rest of politically crucial Pennsylvania.

“This is just the tip of the iceberg. Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

“This is just the tip of the iceberg,” he said. “Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

Illegal Voters Uncovered in Philly Are ‘Tip of the Iceberg’



6. "12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org



7. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two

Sore Loser, eh?

Fyi, since 2002...federal law dictates that States MUST issue different drivers licence to immigrants than US citizen....which btw, does NOT automatically register the immigrants to vote....and that all US citizen must show proof of citizenship.....when my license came up for renewal, I was forced to go to the DMV with proof...of citizenship.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Dead and illegals are the only things keeping Dems competitive on the national level, maybe even in NY, CA and MA.

They know an accurate, Baghdad purple finger system would be the kiss of death for them

That's a lie. We all know that the Trumpers stole the election with false voting.

 

[Faun]

Getting sick and tired of the whiners claiming that Bill's wife won the popular vote?
Well...it's true....but only if you use the time honored Liberal method of claiming to be unable to connect the dots....
...in other words, refuse to include reality

"But....but .....but....no proof!!!! No proof!!!"
Of course there is no need for proof when they claim 'racism.'

The spoiled brats have one set of requirements for themselves, and a different one for the other side.




1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”

Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.

Richman applied those numbers to 2016:

The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.


“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.



Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”

The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”


“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”

Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know, said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election


2. "Three million votes in the U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.

If true, this would mean that Donald Trump still won the contest despite widespread vote fraud and almost certainly won the popular vote.

“We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens,” tweeted Phillips after reporting that the group had completed an analysis of a database of 180 million voter registrations."
Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens

How many of the absentee ballots are from the military....and who do you imagine (I almost said 'think') they voted for?



3. "Claims of votes by the dead, felons cloud North Carolina governor race"
Claims of votes by the dead, felons cloud North Carolina governor race



4. Criminal President Obama Encourages Illegal Aliens to Vote – Promises No Repercussions (VIDEO)




5. "Illegal Voters Uncovered in Philly Are ‘Tip of the Iceberg’
Law firm uncovers illegal immigrants, convicted felons on rolls — and some have voted in crucial swing state
He said there is no way to know how many non-citizens might be registered to vote in Philadelphia, let alone in the rest of politically crucial Pennsylvania.

“This is just the tip of the iceberg. Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

“This is just the tip of the iceberg,” he said. “Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

Illegal Voters Uncovered in Philly Are ‘Tip of the Iceberg’



6. "12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org



7. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two

Translation: if you ignor the actual vote count and make up numbers, you can claim Hillary lost the popular vote.

 

[easyt65]

Getting sick and tired of the whiners claiming that Bill's wife won the popular vote?
Well...it's true....but only if you use the time honored Liberal method of claiming to be unable to connect the dots....
...in other words, refuse to include reality

"But....but .....but....no proof!!!! No proof!!!"
Of course there is no need for proof when they claim 'racism.'

The spoiled brats have one set of requirements for themselves, and a different one for the other side.




1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”

Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.

Richman applied those numbers to 2016:

The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.


“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.



Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”

The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”


“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”

Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know, said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election


2. "Three million votes in the U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.

If true, this would mean that Donald Trump still won the contest despite widespread vote fraud and almost certainly won the popular vote.

“We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens,” tweeted Phillips after reporting that the group had completed an analysis of a database of 180 million voter registrations."
Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens

How many of the absentee ballots are from the military....and who do you imagine (I almost said 'think') they voted for?



3. "Claims of votes by the dead, felons cloud North Carolina governor race"
Claims of votes by the dead, felons cloud North Carolina governor race



4. Criminal President Obama Encourages Illegal Aliens to Vote – Promises No Repercussions (VIDEO)




5. "Illegal Voters Uncovered in Philly Are ‘Tip of the Iceberg’
Law firm uncovers illegal immigrants, convicted felons on rolls — and some have voted in crucial swing state
He said there is no way to know how many non-citizens might be registered to vote in Philadelphia, let alone in the rest of politically crucial Pennsylvania.

“This is just the tip of the iceberg. Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

“This is just the tip of the iceberg,” he said. “Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

Illegal Voters Uncovered in Philly Are ‘Tip of the Iceberg’



6. "12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org



7. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two

Sore Loser, eh?

Fyi, since 2002...federal law dictates that States MUST issue different drivers licence to immigrants than US citizen....which btw, does NOT automatically register the immigrants to vote....and that all US citizen must show proof of citizenship.....when my license came up for renewal, I was forced to go to the DMV with proof...of citizenship.

Interesting - I wonder why they singled you out from all those illegals and dead people.

 

[easyt65]

[QUOTE="JakeStarkey, post: 15982971, member: 20412
"That's a lie." We all know that the Trumpers stole the election with false voting.[/QUOTE]
'That's a Lie' - and that's your opinion.

'We all know that the Trumpers stole the election with false voting'
-- Now THAT'S a LIE!

 

[JakeStarkey]

[QUOTE="JakeStarkey, post: 15982971, member: 20412
"That's a lie." We all know that the Trumpers stole the election with false voting.

'That's a Lie' - and that's your opinion.

'We all know that the Trumpers stole the election with false voting'
-- Now THAT'S a LIE![/QUOTE]
Trump stole the election. Trump said the election was rigged. He's right.

 

[Rustic]

Hildabeast.....

 

[easyt65]

Trump stole the election. Trump said the election was rigged. He's right.

'Trump Stole the Election'

If by that you mean Trump kicked Hillary's ass and scored an upset they you are absolutely right.

You snowflakes - who rigged your own Primary, fed Hillary Town Hall Meeting / Debate Questions, and relied on the all-in media to NOT report on all of Hillary's scandals - keep claiming the election was rigged, but you can't produce any evidence to support the claim.

Even when the electronic voting machines 'malfunctioned', they changed Trump voted to Hillary votes - none from Hillary to Trump. (That's a helluva weird / unique anomaly).

Jill Stein admitted she is demanding she wants a recount because 'Hillary should have won' - now that's some hard-hitting 'evidence'.

Libs on this board have even suggested that Exit Poll numbers are more reliable than actual votes cast, and because of that Hillary should be the new President.




More Libs claim the election was 'stolen' because Hillary won more Popular votes, which, again, means about as much as 'Boots' the psychic Scottish goat predicting a Hillary win.

Every time such a ridiculous claim is made it is exposed just how bitter, desperate, and butthurt snowflakes are.

 

[hadit]

Hillary Clinton won this election, three states gave the presidency to a draft dodger, adulterer, who pays no taxes, a rich white boy who inherited his wealth and played the white supremacist card and the white resentment card very well. Nothing to brag about when the KKK is cheering your election choice and a racist is our president and his close staff includes an anti-Semite. Let's be honest here. It was a fake election as Donnie cares not an iota for the working class, check all the lawsuits. But he played the whities like a banjo and now big money is where it always was in control.

"There was not one rational reason for a white person not in the upper classes to vote for Trump. In the last quarter, the economy was growing at nearly 3 percent, and not only was job growth solid but also wages are finally rising. But none of these economic facts could be appreciated because a candidate was pouring the crudest fuel on an old American flame, white supremacy."
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/201...-vote-for-trump-because-they-felt-left-behind

Dear hard-working white people: Congratulations, you played yourself

"Over the next few months, pundits and scholars will dissect this election. Many will find fault with Hillary Clinton and her campaign. Some will blame James Comey and the FBI. Others will hold the third-party candidacies of Jill Stein and Gary Johnson responsible for her defeat. But most will talk about the discontent of working-class white Americans, how elites dismissed them with scorn and treated them with condescension, and how they, in the end, rejected the status quo and the economic philosophy that has left them behind. These are the folks Donald Trump called “the forgotten men and women of our country,” and this election will be read as their revenge.

But that is a lie. To be sure, non-college-educated, working-class white men overwhelmingly voted for Trump. But what the early exit-poll data, with all of its flaws, reveal is a much more complicated picture. The fact, and it is one this country must confront, is that the majority of White America voted for Trump to be the 45th President of the United States. According to the results of the Edison Research’s national election poll, 53% of white women voted for him and 48% of young white people supported him. Large numbers of college-educated white women (45%) and men (54%) voted for him. What is becoming increasingly clear is that White America, writ large, supported the candidate who wants to ban Muslims, build a wall on our southern border and deport undocumented workers; who calls himself the candidate of law and order; and who degrades and demeans women. This isn’t the revenge of working-class white men alone. White America—and I mean those who see themselves as white people, not as those who happen to be white—has struck back." Eddie S. Glaude, Jr. Nov. 9, 2016, Time Magazine

Serious denial of reality. Hillary will not be taking the oath of office and will not be referred to as "Madam President" for the next 4 years. President Trump, reality TV star, now reality president.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"'Trump Stole the Election'" is absolutely correct.

Hillary received more than two million votes than Trump, all legal, all valid.

Trump's opponents received more than eleven million votes than him, all legal, all valid.

Trump's opponents are going to have the same chance as did Obama's opponents.

 

[easyt65]

"'Trump Stole the Election'" is absolutely correct.

Hillary received more than two million votes than Trump, all legal, all valid.

Trump's opponents received more than eleven million votes than him, all legal, all valid.

Trump's opponents are going to have the same chance as did Obama's opponents.

All of that and $8 will get you a Latte at Starbucks...congrats.